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[Rich]

There is no question that Senna was a legend and was EXTREMELY competitive...makes you wonder how many more championships he would have won if he wasn't killed at Imola in 94.

[bud]

Definition of a blue flag

A lapped car must allow the faster car past after seeing a maximum of three blue flags or risk being penalised.

Simple as, Senna wasn't faster.

Mhm, that's exactly how I see it, too.

Denthul you really dont know racing do you
yeah right if that happened with todays stewards both Hill and Irvine would be given drive throughs no doubt about it. Fighting with the leader while he is trying to pass is a no no, especially Hill who was helping his team mate!

[bud]

Remember I was watching and appreciating Senna before most of you, who have issue's with my post/opinion , were born or out of diapers

dont give me that crap I was watching Senna race in person while you were looking for your remote control! and its nappies not diapers!

Remember I was watching and appreciating Senna before most of you, who have issue's with my post/opinion , were born or out of diapers. The only reason your crying imo is because Senna drove for McLaren, who can do no wrong , which again imo is a lame excuse.
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crying? mate its simple knowledge of racing etiquette Senna was meant to be let through thats all there is too it. And me crying? i was laughing at you for criticising the great man for being arrogant when your own lover boy Schumacher was just as arrogant but thats ok in your book cos he drove for Ferrari who can do no wrong , which again imo is a lame excuse.

[Denthúl]

Definition of a blue flag

A lapped car must allow the faster car past after seeing a maximum of three blue flags or risk being penalised.

Simple as, Senna wasn't faster.

Mhm, that's exactly how I see it, too.

Denthul you really dont know racing do you
yeah right if that happened with todays stewards both Hill and Irvine would be given drive throughs no doubt about it. Fighting with the leader while he is trying to pass is a no no, especially Hill who was helping his team mate!

No, not at all.

The fact is, Senna was as much an interference on the battle between Hill and Irvine as they were to the one between him and Prost. Fair enough, the blue flag rules state to let the faster driver through, but from watching that clip Senna doesn't look to be any faster. If he was, he'd have been ahead and off in to the distance. Of course, I've only seen the clip posted along with the discussion

Personally, I don't agree with blue flags at all. If you don't have the skill to pass a backmarker without the stewards instructing the backmarker to slow down then you're not really that good, are you? Why make it easier for them when it is supposed to be a challenging sport? :-\

[texasmr2]

Remember I was watching and appreciating Senna before most of you, who have issue's with my post/opinion , were born or out of diapers

dont give me that crap I was watching Senna race in person while you were looking for your remote control! and its nappies not diapers!

Remember I was watching and appreciating Senna before most of you, who have issue's with my post/opinion , were born or out of diapers. The only reason your crying imo is because Senna drove for McLaren, who can do no wrong , which again imo is a lame excuse.
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crying? mate its simple knowledge of racing etiquette Senna was meant to be let through thats all there is too it. And me crying? i was laughing at you for criticising the great man for being arrogant when your own lover boy Schumacher was just as arrogant but thats ok in your book cos he drove for Ferrari who can do no wrong , which again imo is a lame excuse.

Well it's diapers here in the states and remember you were the one who brought up Schumacher not I.

Anywho I said my peace and gave my opinion, sorry if it's not what you wanted to hear.

[bud]

Definition of a blue flag

A lapped car must allow the faster car past after seeing a maximum of three blue flags or risk being penalised.

Simple as, Senna wasn't faster.

Mhm, that's exactly how I see it, too.

Denthul you really dont know racing do you
yeah right if that happened with todays stewards both Hill and Irvine would be given drive throughs no doubt about it. Fighting with the leader while he is trying to pass is a no no, especially Hill who was helping his team mate!

No, not at all.

The fact is, Senna was as much an interference on the battle between Hill and Irvine as they were to the one between him and Prost. Fair enough, the blue flag rules state to let the faster driver through, but from watching that clip Senna doesn't look to be any faster. If he was, he'd have been ahead and off in to the distance. Of course, I've only seen the clip posted along with the discussion

Personally, I don't agree with blue flags at all. If you don't have the skill to pass a backmarker without the stewards instructing the backmarker to slow down then you're not really that good, are you? Why make it easier for them when it is supposed to be a challenging sport? :-\

you should stop arguing for the sake of it, this has taken the cake!

[McLaren Fan]

Not in favour of blue flags? Get real. The leader should always get priority. Senna had to get out of the way of the leaders on many number of occasions when he was driving non-competitive cars. Others should do the same. Hill was being awkward and Irvine his usual obnoxious self.

Tell it like it is, Ayrton: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxCrh4NbYP8

[7UpJordan]

I used to like it back in the days when the leader had to find a way past and you would get mobile chicane drivers like Grouillard, Alliot and co. blocking.

[Denthúl]

Not in favour of blue flags? Get real. The leader should always get priority.

Shall we bring back traction control, launch control and engine braking, then? A blue flag is just another driver aid, making it easier for them. A grand prix is supposed to be challenging.

[McLaren Fan]

How can you even compare a blue flag with driving aids such traction control? I have to admit, I have been completely blind-sided with that wholly illogical and scandalously disingenuous repost.The fact is that, though far from ideal, the leader and those further up the classification must be given priority and back-markers should not be able to impact on their races.

[Denthúl]

How can you even compare a blue flag with driving aids such traction control? I have to admit, I have been completely blind-sided with that wholly illogical and scandalously disingenuous repost.The fact is that, though far from ideal, the leader and those further up the classification must be given priority and back-markers should not be able to impact on their races.

So the leaders can impact the races of those further down? Hardly fair. If the drivers are supposed to be the best in the world, then surely they have the skill to do without blue flags? They're already graced with the privilege of a faster car and, more often than not, superior skill. They shouldn't require a slow car to go slower in order to pass them.

[7UpJordan]

How can you even compare a blue flag with driving aids such traction control? I have to admit, I have been completely blind-sided with that wholly illogical and scandalously disingenuous repost.The fact is that, though far from ideal, the leader and those further up the classification must be given priority and back-markers should not be able to impact on their races.

Woah, big words dude! Heavy!

Still mad about the Schlesser incident at Monza 1988?

[McLaren Fan]

The back-markers have nothing to do with the leaders. Granted, the leaders should have nothing to do with the back-markers as well. However, the track is only several miles in length, so clearly some kind of arrangement has to exist. Given the choice between penalising the leader, with wins, podiums, and points at stake or back-markers who are racing for pride, I think it's fair to say the correct choice has been made. Furthermore, you could easily invert your point: how is it fair to force the more skilled and faster drivers and teams to pass the lesser skill ones? As a coda, in most cases, the most skilled driver is not privileged to be in the faster car; he earned his right to the seat because of his talents etc.

[texasmr2]

I used to like it back in the days when the leader had to find a way past and you would get mobile chicane drivers like Grouillard, Alliot and co. blocking.

That sir is what we call REAL RACING not this 'nancy boy' crap of having to move over for the leader, the leader should be MADE to pass !!!

[madbrad]

I doubt the accuracy of the dialog.
No one can know what was said unless there was either a stenographer or a tape recorder in the room and both are highly unlikely. Even those present cannot remember every word verbatum even immediately afterward.