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[AKR]

What are your thoughts on Hill vs Schui? was that the right thing to do after what Williams had been though that year?

No it wasn't the right thing. But as a Schumacher fan I accept the win. But it was morally wrong. I can admit to it openly why can't you?

[bud]

You see, its a different circumstance its not like Shui on Hill its a case of senna making a protest.

it wasn't a shallow win no, but but it wasn't 100% moral.

I would of at least liked to see him try to take him on the track.

Ahh of course, but you still accept it as a McLaren deserved win of course. But I don't blame you. I would as well for Ferrari. (You already knew that of course). Once again I can admit to it openly, you I had to get that out of you but very you have admitted it indirectly. You are no different to me in your thinking, fact.

You ALWAYS bring up 1990 because it was Prost in a Ferrari, yet you never acknowledge what happened the previous year when Prost was in a McLaren

The 1989 incident cannot be relevant to what my discussion is about. You McLarenites claim that Ferraristas like myself will accept any type of win. I claim that you are the same and that the 1990 incident is an example of this. Now how can I use the 1989 incident as an example if both Senna and Prost were at McLaren then? My argument isn't about the actual drivers Prost and Senna and who was at fault during both incidents of 1989 and 1990. It was about weather you McLarenites accept what happened in 1990 as a moral victory. Please dont move away from the point I am making. Once again I will state that by no means do I suggest that Senna shouldn't of won in 1990.

Ummm actually youre trying to use the 1990 incident in your argument when im trying to tell you that incident in 89 had a large influence on the 1990 one in Senna's mind. Not only that he had his pole position grid order moved off of the rubbered in side of the track. It was that punk Balestere (RIP) helping his fellow Frenchman out! (more Euro BS in Sport)
All in all what Senna did was say i am not going to lift before the race and he didnt, its Prosts problem for not taking his word.
You wouldnt even care about that incident if Prost was in a McLaren still

P.S. its Shouldn't HAVE not Shouldn't OF.....

[Gaz]

Longbow.

Far be it from me to explain to you that there really not much to understand. the actual reason why you think there is seems to explain why you feel a little inferior when it appears someone else might know a little more than you about nothing and you cant take it. you then go to any lengh to make a fool of yourself. you need to chill . life really not as hard as you making it out to be. try some other interests as well... like knitting - that just may fulfill you.
Really ... what would be your motivation to make people believe you know something about nothing anyway. maybe a egotrip or something. whatever it is I dont get it. Maybe you should grow up and start drinking!!!!!!!!!!

Mate, myself and Akr were having a chat no we might not of agreed but it was a discussion about F1 and all you were doing is egging her on, and stirring up crap.

Thats not entering into the discussion its just an attempt to wind me up, now i assume your posting Chill because you think you succeeded in doing so, not so i take everything you say with a pinch of salt because there's nothing to your words it's empty shi* talk.

Typical example of this is you posted about the weather in a thread that was talking about everyone going on about kimi, massa or Alonso ramming Hamilton, it was just stupid.

You suggest i should "grow up" well in my opinion the only person displaying immaturity is you. Try drinking a little less too? eh?

[McLaren Fan]

Ummm actually youre trying to use the 1990 incident in your argument when im trying to tell you that incident in 89 had a large influence on the 1990 one in Senna's mind. Not only that he had his pole position grid order moved off of the rubbered in side of the track. It was that punk Balestere (RIP) helping his fellow Frenchman out! (more Euro BS in Sport)
All in all what Senna did was say i am not going to lift before the race and he didnt, its Prosts problem for not taking his word.
You wouldnt even care about that incident if Prost was in a McLaren still

P.S. its Shouldn't HAVE not Shouldn't OF...

We've been through all of this God-knows-how-many times with AKR.

[7UpJordan]

It's inevitable that Alonso will drive for Ferrari one day. More inevitable than Senna joining Williams.

[Tony_sa]

is there no end to the pathetic moaner's antics??? come now ... it happened .. your feelings got hurt ( for reasons i dont understand) so let it go and move on. please man - stop acting like a crybaby.

[Denthúl]

is there no end to the pathetic moaner's antics??? come now ... it happened .. your feelings got hurt ( for reasons i dont understand) so let it go and move on. please man - stop acting like a crybaby.

Whiner or no, I'd take Alonso over almost every other driver this season if I had a team.

[Tony_sa]

is there no end to the pathetic moaner's antics??? come now ... it happened .. your feelings got hurt ( for reasons i dont understand) so let it go and move on. please man - stop acting like a crybaby.

Whiner or no, I'd take Alonso over almost every other driver this season if I had a team.

No reason i should not agree with you. still think he should be in a red car

[Denthúl]

is there no end to the pathetic moaner's antics??? come now ... it happened .. your feelings got hurt ( for reasons i dont understand) so let it go and move on. please man - stop acting like a crybaby.

Whiner or no, I'd take Alonso over almost every other driver this season if I had a team.

No reason i should not agree with you. still think he should be in a red car

I'd rather see him in a blue and white one, but only if teams were permitted to enter three cars...

[AKR]

Longbow.

Far be it from me to explain to you that there really not much to understand. the actual reason why you think there is seems to explain why you feel a little inferior when it appears someone else might know a little more than you about nothing and you cant take it. you then go to any lengh to make a fool of yourself. you need to chill . life really not as hard as you making it out to be. try some other interests as well... like knitting - that just may fulfill you.
Really ... what would be your motivation to make people believe you know something about nothing anyway. maybe a egotrip or something. whatever it is I dont get it. Maybe you should grow up and start drinking!!!!!!!!!!

Mate, myself and Akr were having a chat no we might not of agreed but it was a discussion about F1 and all you were doing is egging her on, and stirring up crap.

Thats not entering into the discussion its just an attempt to wind me up, now i assume your posting Chill because you think you succeeded in doing so, not so i take everything you say with a pinch of salt because there's nothing to your words it's empty shi* talk.

Typical example of this is you posted about the weather in a thread that was talking about everyone going on about kimi, massa or Alonso ramming Hamilton, it was just stupid.

You suggest i should "grow up" well in my opinion the only person displaying immaturity is you. Try drinking a little less too? eh?

Tony I am sorry if I sound like a biatch but Longbow is right. We (Longbow and I) were having a discussion. Whilst both of us are emotionally attched to our beloved F1 teams and/or drivers, which can cause a bit of a stir at times, we were having a productive discussion. Longbow has done nothing wrong in voicing his opions to me, information which I have taken in, in the exact way if I were to read it from a book, a newspaper, a magazine, discuss with someone face to face etc. He I am sure has done the same with what I have to say, even if like me, he does not agree with. If you look carefully the both of us have tried to stick to actual facts, or what we interpret as facts or correct information. Of course we wont always agree and thus a debate occurs. No one is acting childish and I am perfectly happy with the comments made by Longbow and also others for that matter.

[AKR]

Ummm actually youre trying to use the 1990 incident in your argument when im trying to tell you that incident in 89 had a large influence on the 1990 one in Senna's mind. Not only that he had his pole position grid order moved off of the rubbered in side of the track. It was that punk Balestere (RIP) helping his fellow Frenchman out! (more Euro BS in Sport)
All in all what Senna did was say i am not going to lift before the race and he didnt, its Prosts problem for not taking his word.
You wouldnt even care about that incident if Prost was in a McLaren still

P.S. its Shouldn't HAVE not Shouldn't OF...
We've been through all of this God-knows-how-many times with AKR.

But no one bothers to actually read what I write properly. My point isnt a dispute weather Senna was right or wrong and what Balestre did and his favortism to Prost etc. All i aked if you take that win as a moral win? If you want me to expalin it better than how is this. Would you have prefered Senna winning the way he did by taking Prost out of the race (And himself) or would you have preferred him to win on the racetrack with a strong chance that he may not have won and conceded the victory to Prost/Ferrari? That is all I am wanting any of you McLarenites to answer. It is really a simple question and not as complicated as you want to make it out to be.

[Tony_sa]

no biggy AKR ... like i said before ... to each his own. my last word on the issue. he passes wierd remarks and when he gets burnt he cries about it. he's a nutcase and deserves the same crap hamilton derserves for that sh*tty attitude. he is nothing - does not even exist

[AKR]

no biggy AKR ... like i said before ... to each his own. my last word on the issue. he passes wierd remarks and when he gets burnt he cries about it. he's a nutcase and deserves the same crap hamilton derserves for that sh*tty attitude. he is nothing - does not even exist

What? Who is a nutcase? I don't understand what you mean? All I am talking about is if the McLaren Supporters saw the move Senna did on Prost as moral or not. I expect them to say it was ok just like I would had Ferrari did it to McLaren. (Like they are now supposingly). Of course I also expect them to defend their team like I do mine and for them to justify Senna's actions. (Which I guess McLaren Fan does do but still doesn't answer my question). But no one here is a nutcase, well I don't see it that way anyway so I am totally bazzled by your comments Tony?

[Tony_sa]

dont worry about it angel..... actually didnt have much to do with F1 ....... tis ok. in the past

[AKR]

dont worry about it angel..... actually didnt have much to do with F1 ....... tis ok. in the past

Very well then.................................... Still have no idea what you meant, but doesn't matter anyway. Like you said all in the past.