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[sagi58]

... I have yet to see any evidence of good religious principles...

The one, simple premise/principle all religions have in common:



Ain't nothing wrong with that!!

[sagi58]

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[CookinFlat6]

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Some of us, who are Religious, balk at the fanatical believers and are
uncomfortable to be compared/lumped in with them.

Some of us, who are Religious, feel comfortable questioning the dictates
of the Church, without betraying our beliefs; whereas the fanatics would
have us lining up at the gates of hell!

After reading the 'tongue in cheek' directive by the Scuderia I have come up with a translation

Some of us, who are Tifosi, balk at the fanatical believers and are
uncomfortable to be compared/lumped in with them.

Some of us, who are Tifosi, feel comfortable questioning the dictates
of Montezemolo, without betraying our belief in Ferrari; whereas the fanatics would
have us lining up at the gates of hell!

So you would question the dictates of the Church of your religion, but (like you have said before) you will defend everything said against Ferrari and stick up for your team no matter what?

As long as people who believe in concepts are willing to challenged them and not turn a blind to irregularities then most people want an outlet for their spirituality. Its when they are willing to defend them no matter what and in the face of opposing evidence that the problems start.

[sagi58]

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Forum for all off topic discussions, drop in and have a laugh with your fellow Tifosi or discuss latest news and events worldwide. Please respect all members by not posting religious or political threads as Ferrari is our only religion!

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Some of us, who are Religious, balk at the fanatical believers and are
uncomfortable to be compared/lumped in with them.

Some of us, who are Religious, feel comfortable questioning the dictates
of the Church, without betraying our beliefs; whereas the fanatics would
have us lining up at the gates of hell!

After reading the 'tongue in cheek' directive by the Scuderia I have come up with a translation

Some of us, who are Tifosi, balk at the fanatical believers and are
uncomfortable to be compared/lumped in with them.

Some of us, who are Tifosi, feel comfortable questioning the dictates
of Montezemolo, without betraying our belief in Ferrari; whereas the fanatics would
have us lining up at the gates of hell!

So you would question the dictates of the Church of your religion, but (like you have said before) you will defend everything said against Ferrari and stick up for your team no matter what?

As long as people who believe in concepts are willing to challenged them and not turn a blind to irregularities then most people want an outlet for their spirituality. Its when they are willing to defend them no matter what and in the face of opposing evidence that the problems start.

First of all, I don't need to defend myself or my religious beliefs to you or anyone.
Secondly, Ferrari and F1 are NOT a religion for me. They are a team. F1 is a sport.
Thirdly, your attempt at putting them on the same, is actually pretty disrespectful.
Other than that, I have nothing further to add.

[Hammer278]

That's not cool man, have you been keeping up with the latest news. Long story short, the flight was hijacked...thanks to 8 Chinese VIP scientists on board. This isn't the thread to talk about it so I'll stop here. Let's not paint Msia in bad light for this one shall we.

[1Lemon]

Long story short, the flight was hijacked...thanks to 8 Chinese VIP scientists on board.

I've not heard this anywhere.... I know it was diverted but there is no proof of why or how exactly.

[myownalias]

Not to do the job of the mods, but let's not derail this thread with the Malaysian Flight 370 mystery, I have discussed my comment with Hammer in PM; I suggest you do the same 1Lemon!

[1Lemon]

Ah balls, I thought I copied this quote and moved it into another thread. My bad.

[Jabberwocky]

I have made this thread and moved all the posts I could find on the topic here, as I feel this story is not over yet.

[1Lemon]

Oh this is professional level of organisation and mod-atude.

[Hammer278]

@Lemonade...the clue to the current reasoning is in the last pic. You see 'Diego Garcia' there. Below is a writeup which is quickly becoming viral and makes a lot of sense:

Americans were withdrawing from the Afghanistan earlier, and one of their command and control system (used for controlling the pilotless drones) was hijacked by the Talibans when the American transport convoy was moving down from one of the hill top bases. The Talibans managed to ambush the convoy and killed 2 American Seal personnel, seized the equipment/weapons at the time (was reported but not publicized), and this included the command and control system which weighed about 20 tons and packed into 6 crates. This happened about a month ago in Feb 2014.

Now the Chinese are hungry for the system's technology. If they manage to get their hands on it, the american drone army becomes completely useless. The Chinese had sent 8 top defense scientists to check the system with a deal worth millions set to take place. Earlier this month, the 8 scientists and the 6 crates made their way to Malaysia, thinking that it was the best covert way to avoid detection. The cargo was kept in the Embassy under diplomatic protection. Meanwhile the American has engaged the assistance of Israeli intelligence, and together they are determined to intercept and recapture the cargo.

The Chinese calculated that it will be safe to transport it via civilian aircraft so as to avoid suspicion. After all the direct flight from KL to Beijing takes only 4 and half hours, and the American will not hijack or harm the civilian. So MH370 is the perfect carrier. Now there were 5 American and Israeli agents onboard who are familiar with Boeing operation. The 2 "Iranians" with stolen passports could be among them.

The theory is that the plane's tracking system was disabled via cockpit and the plane turned around to land in Diego Garcia to refuel. It then refueled and sent by remote control (can be done by any control tower which has the plane's code signature) further south and crashed into the ocean.

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Also, take a look at the plane's flight plan. They were headed to Beijing, north of Msia. They turned the plane around much before since they can't enter chinese airspace due to obvious reasons. Turning the plane around to head towards the Indian ocean which is South of Msia (with a US military base just close by) is a good step in getting what you want don't you think. The search area is all about the Indian ocean now.

Please don't tell me the pilot was a doofus and he didn't know where he's flying to, or Msia simply 'lost an aircraft' because they are so stupid. The captain was flying for the company for over 20 years. Highly experienced, yet, no warning signals, no nothing from the aircraft back to base. If all this doesn't point to a hijack I don't know what can.

[Jabberwocky]

As DG is an American run airfield.

Sent using NCC-1701

[Hammer278]

Yeah....sarcasm, or?

Diego Garcia is a tropical, footprint-shaped coral atoll located south of the equator in the central Indian Ocean. It is part of the British Indian Ocean Territory (BIOT).
The atoll is approximately 1,970 nautical miles (3,650 km) east of the coast of Africa (at Tanzania), 967 nautical miles (1,790 km) south-southwest of the southern tip of India (at Kanyakumari) and 2,550 nautical miles (4,720 km) west-northwest of the west coast of Australia (at Cape Range National Park, Western Australia). Diego Garcia lies in the Chagos Archipelago at the southernmost tip of the Chagos-Laccadive Ridge — a vast submarine range in the Indian Ocean,[2] topped by a long chain of coral reefs, atolls, and islands comprising Lakshadweep, Maldives, and the Chagos Archipelago.
The United States Navy operates Naval Support Facility (NSF) Diego Garcia, a large naval ship and submarine support base, military air base, communications and space-tracking facility, and an anchorage for pre-positioned military supplies for regional operations aboard Military Sealift Command ships in the lagoon.[4]

[Jabberwocky]

There is also a small element of Royal Air Force at DG

[1Lemon]

The theory is that the plane's tracking system was disabled via cockpit and the plane turned around to land in Diego Garcia to refuel. It then refueled and sent by remote control (can be done by any control tower which has the plane's code signature) further south and crashed into the ocean.

No control tower has the ability to remote control a plane via any of it's frequency codes, that's a massive security hole that no one wants to have.

Please don't tell me the pilot was a doofus and he didn't know where he's flying to, or Msia simply 'lost an aircraft' because they are so stupid. The captain was flying for the company for over 20 years. Highly experienced, yet, no warning signals, no nothing from the aircraft back to base. If all this doesn't point to a hijack I don't know what can.

It all seems very conspiracy type. I was always in the belief that something more sinister than a standard hijacking happened, but I feel this is a little far fetched; stranger things have happened though.

It seems that this theory has a few questions though:

1) What happened to all the people on board? I did read that the plane flew at well above it's standard operation altitude for some time, this would have been above the decompression limit and therefore the oxygen would have dropped down; Boeing claim this oxygen only lasts for 15-20 minutes, could these agents have had extra breathing apparatus, and would the US Government kill 250 innocent people?

2) What about all these objects in the sea? Did the US unload the plane, then crash it into the sea?

3) Why are the US aiding the investigation by sending air crash investigators?

4) Did the British Government know, it wouldn't surprise me if they worked with GCHQ, MI5/6 to get this done, therefore why did the MOD give Imnersat(?) the go ahead to release those photos and move the search area to the Indian Ocean?

5) If the plane was sent back to the US, how did no one notice the most searched for object on the planet flying from airport to airport fuelling up and heading to the states?

I'm as intrigued as any to find out what really happened there though, but these events line up too conveniently to be taken on face value (Like many conspiracy theories)