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#277292
You've made some good points there Darriele. TBH, for me, this season has been a bit of a letdown. I agree with you about the tyres. Too much team strategy this year and not enough proper racing and also, even with KERS, DRS and the tyre issues, we've still had a runaway winner. Something we didn't have last year.

Taking nothing away from Seb, but this season has been bad for F1 imo. Red Bull and Seb have been way too good and all the rest have looked a bit pathetic tbh.

Roll on 2012!! :)
#277300
You've made some good points there Darriele. TBH, for me, this season has been a bit of a letdown. I agree with you about the tyres. Too much team strategy this year and not enough proper racing and also, even with KERS, DRS and the tyre issues, we've still had a runaway winner. Something we didn't have last year.

Taking nothing away from Seb, but this season has been bad for F1 imo. Red Bull and Seb have been way too good and all the rest have looked a bit pathetic tbh.

Roll on 2012!! :)


Much as Schumacher did in the past :). It's not bad for F1, not at all, sooner or later the other teams will catch up/overpass the reigning champion. Too bad we have to wait till 2014 for the V6 engines (Volkswagen >> all regarding those type of engines :)) )
#277308
Has anyone seen any video or pictures yet? I wonder if it's like when Massa and Alonso got into a disagreement at the end of the 2007 European Grand Prix? Hopefully though this time it's in english and not Italian.


Page 36 of this thread. mnmracer posted it.
#277309
Has anyone seen any video or pictures yet? I wonder if it's like when Massa and Alonso got into a disagreement at the end of the 2007 European Grand Prix? Hopefully though this time it's in english and not Italian.


Page 36 of this thread. mnmracer posted it.


Thanks Racechick. Massa sure did a hit-and-run there. Kinda pathetic if you ask me. (i'm sure someones already said this but I don't have time to read all the posts)
#277310
Are the races that crap that all we ever talk about is Hamilton, it is boring as anything.

So what he was involved in an incident, so was Perez, Schumacher, Rosberg and so and and so forth.


Michael Schumacer is a TWENTY, yes that is T.W.E.N.T.Y year veteran of F1, and he made the most stupid of errors with Perez, now not a single word has been said on a 7 time champion, but Hamilton and Massa race down to turn 5 or whatever, one gets a slightly damaged wing and the other a puncture and all this shitty talk starts again.


I wish itd stop honestly, cant we talk about soon to be double champion (depsite overrated) Sebastian Vettel, or something?
#277316
There are only 2 fans, You either love Hamilton, or you hate his guts.

Im pretty sure Massa has hated Hamilton ever since Brazil 2008. :wavey:


I don't understand why Massa would hate Hamilton over 2008. Hamilton did nothing to slight him or cheat him out of that title. It was won fair and square. If Massa were to hate anyone over 2008 wouldn't it be Timo Glock?
#277318
OK, my views on the race from my blog:

Sebastian Vettel closed to within one point of claiming his second world drivers title with a superb controlled drive from start to finish to claim his ninth win in 2011. It seems that Vettel is almost unbeatable this season, some have said that he isn’t as talented as results would suggest, it is claimed that it’s the RB7 that is the winner, not the driver, if that’s the case, how come Mark Webber hasn’t challenged for wins or finished second in every race? Anyway, I digress, McLaren’s Jenson Button finished the race less than two seconds behind the German and set the fastest lap of 1:48.454 to ruin Vettel’s party in Singapore. The Briton was closing in on the German in the final laps but lost out in traffic, realistically Button was never on for the win, I think Vettel had time in his pocket if needed! Mark Webber brought the second Red Bull home in third place after initially dropping back to fourth from second having a good battle with Fernando Alonso along the way.

Alonso finished the race in fourth place after an evening of battling with Webber, a solid result for Ferrari given that Maranello have abandoned development of their 2011 challenger. Lewis Hamilton finished the race in fifth place which was somewhat of a save after dropping back to eighth from fourth on the grid and later colliding with Felipe Massa on lap 12 while battling for eighth after both pitted for fresh rubber. The Briton suffered a broken front wing while the Brazilian suffered a rear puncture meaning both drivers would have to pit again for running repairs and shortly after Hamilton was dealt another blow being issued with a drive-through penalty which dropped him back well outside the points. Paul di Resta brought his Force India home in a career best sixth place, a great mature drive from the Scot, pushed when he needed to push, saved his tyres when he needed to, flawless drive from di Resta, well deserved sixth place finish!

The final points paying positions of seventh through 10th respectively went to Mercedes’ Nico Rosberg, Force India’s Adrian Sutil, Ferrari’s Felipe Massa and Sauber’s Sergio Perez, all four drivers were lapped which says a lot when a lap lasts approximately 1 min 50 secs in Singapore.

Michael Schumacher failed to finish the race after a string of decent results; the German getting too close to Perez’ Sauber, clipping the Mexican’s rear wheel, getting some air before barrelling into the barrier which brought out the safety car closing up the whole field. This could have been Button’s chance to surprise Vettel but it wasn’t to be as the Briton had four backmarkers in the train between him and the German. Overall it was a good result for JB; it could have been better for McLaren if it weren’t for the drive-through penalty for Hamilton. I believe it was a racing incident myself, the stewards got it wrong I feel, Massa had some strong words after the race but I genuinely feel it’s time to get rid of the “causing an avoidable accident” rule, it discourages drivers from going for gaps and creating exciting racing for the millions of worldwide spectators.

The only driver that can mathematically beat Vettel to the drivers title is Button but that would require JB to win all five remaining races and Vettel to finish outside of the points in all five, so the title is Vettel’s and effectively has been for some time such has been the Red Bull dominance.

Bring on the critique... :)
#277321
OK, my views on the race from my blog:

Sebastian Vettel closed to within one point of claiming his second world drivers title with a superb controlled drive from start to finish to claim his ninth win in 2011. It seems that Vettel is almost unbeatable this season, some have said that he isn’t as talented as results would suggest, it is claimed that it’s the RB7 that is the winner, not the driver, if that’s the case, how come Mark Webber hasn’t challenged for wins or finished second in every race? Anyway, I digress, McLaren’s Jenson Button finished the race less than two seconds behind the German and set the fastest lap of 1:48.454 to ruin Vettel’s party in Singapore. The Briton was closing in on the German in the final laps but lost out in traffic, realistically Button was never on for the win, I think Vettel had time in his pocket if needed! Mark Webber brought the second Red Bull home in third place after initially dropping back to fourth from second having a good battle with Fernando Alonso along the way.

Alonso finished the race in fourth place after an evening of battling with Webber, a solid result for Ferrari given that Maranello have abandoned development of their 2011 challenger. Lewis Hamilton finished the race in fifth place which was somewhat of a save after dropping back to eighth from fourth on the grid and later colliding with Felipe Massa on lap 12 while battling for eighth after both pitted for fresh rubber. The Briton suffered a broken front wing while the Brazilian suffered a rear puncture meaning both drivers would have to pit again for running repairs and shortly after Hamilton was dealt another blow being issued with a drive-through penalty which dropped him back well outside the points. Paul di Resta brought his Force India home in a career best sixth place, a great mature drive from the Scot, pushed when he needed to push, saved his tyres when he needed to, flawless drive from di Resta, well deserved sixth place finish!

The final points paying positions of seventh through 10th respectively went to Mercedes’ Nico Rosberg, Force India’s Adrian Sutil, Ferrari’s Felipe Massa and Sauber’s Sergio Perez, all four drivers were lapped which says a lot when a lap lasts approximately 1 min 50 secs in Singapore.

Michael Schumacher failed to finish the race after a string of decent results; the German getting too close to Perez’ Sauber, clipping the Mexican’s rear wheel, getting some air before barrelling into the barrier which brought out the safety car closing up the whole field. This could have been Button’s chance to surprise Vettel but it wasn’t to be as the Briton had four backmarkers in the train between him and the German. Overall it was a good result for JB; it could have been better for McLaren if it weren’t for the drive-through penalty for Hamilton. I believe it was a racing incident myself, the stewards got it wrong I feel, Massa had some strong words after the race but I genuinely feel it’s time to get rid of the “causing an avoidable accident” rule, it discourages drivers from going for gaps and creating exciting racing for the millions of worldwide spectators.

The only driver that can mathematically beat Vettel to the drivers title is Button but that would require JB to win all five remaining races and Vettel to finish outside of the points in all five, so the title is Vettel’s and effectively has been for some time such has been the Red Bull dominance.

Bring on the critique... :)

The critique has arrived ... and left the building.
Will Gordon Freeman do the same?
Alas, you missed some points in your blog.
#277325
OK, my views on the race from my blog:

Sebastian Vettel closed to within one point of claiming his second world drivers title with a superb controlled drive from start to finish to claim his ninth win in 2011. It seems that Vettel is almost unbeatable this season, some have said that he isn’t as talented as results would suggest, it is claimed that it’s the RB7 that is the winner, not the driver, if that’s the case, how come Mark Webber hasn’t challenged for wins or finished second in every race? Anyway, I digress, McLaren’s Jenson Button finished the race less than two seconds behind the German and set the fastest lap of 1:48.454 to ruin Vettel’s party in Singapore. The Briton was closing in on the German in the final laps but lost out in traffic, realistically Button was never on for the win, I think Vettel had time in his pocket if needed! Mark Webber brought the second Red Bull home in third place after initially dropping back to fourth from second having a good battle with Fernando Alonso along the way.

Alonso finished the race in fourth place after an evening of battling with Webber, a solid result for Ferrari given that Maranello have abandoned development of their 2011 challenger. Lewis Hamilton finished the race in fifth place which was somewhat of a save after dropping back to eighth from fourth on the grid and later colliding with Felipe Massa on lap 12 while battling for eighth after both pitted for fresh rubber. The Briton suffered a broken front wing while the Brazilian suffered a rear puncture meaning both drivers would have to pit again for running repairs and shortly after Hamilton was dealt another blow being issued with a drive-through penalty which dropped him back well outside the points. Paul di Resta brought his Force India home in a career best sixth place, a great mature drive from the Scot, pushed when he needed to push, saved his tyres when he needed to, flawless drive from di Resta, well deserved sixth place finish!

The final points paying positions of seventh through 10th respectively went to Mercedes’ Nico Rosberg, Force India’s Adrian Sutil, Ferrari’s Felipe Massa and Sauber’s Sergio Perez, all four drivers were lapped which says a lot when a lap lasts approximately 1 min 50 secs in Singapore.

Michael Schumacher failed to finish the race after a string of decent results; the German getting too close to Perez’ Sauber, clipping the Mexican’s rear wheel, getting some air before barrelling into the barrier which brought out the safety car closing up the whole field. This could have been Button’s chance to surprise Vettel but it wasn’t to be as the Briton had four backmarkers in the train between him and the German. Overall it was a good result for JB; it could have been better for McLaren if it weren’t for the drive-through penalty for Hamilton. I believe it was a racing incident myself, the stewards got it wrong I feel, Massa had some strong words after the race but I genuinely feel it’s time to get rid of the “causing an avoidable accident” rule, it discourages drivers from going for gaps and creating exciting racing for the millions of worldwide spectators.

The only driver that can mathematically beat Vettel to the drivers title is Button but that would require JB to win all five remaining races and Vettel to finish outside of the points in all five, so the title is Vettel’s and effectively has been for some time such has been the Red Bull dominance.

Bring on the critique... :)


Little to critique since you've stayed very much to the facts. You've been putting on some spit 'n polish to your blog posts writing.
#277334
Why is there such an argument on here about the collision?

I'm sure any Hamilton fan will agree the collision was 100% Hamiltons fault!! :banghead:

The argument here is Babyboy coming over like a little ****** and manhandling Lewis during his interview, and then scampering away like a scared little bunny.

I'm dissapointed with Lewis, he really should've run after that little ****** and kicked him hard in his a*se IMO. Babyboy deserved it, spare the kick spoil the Baby in this context.
#277339
I don't think this thread is going in any direction at all however, I'm also going to post my strongly worded opinion.

I'm seeing a two-faced approach here. People are criticising the state of F1 for Vettel driving off into the distance and ruining the sport, yet they expect Massa to just pull over and let Hamilton past? What if Button held Vettel up? :confused::bs:

If Hamilton is such a fantastic overtaker, I'm sure he knows that drivers are not going to make it easy for him. Massa did nothing untowards Hamilton there - it was all Hamilton's fault. For once I encourage Massa to state his opinion and hope that he sticks by it without retracting it on Twitter. Hamilton is obviously not learning from his various penalties - so drivers also getting in there and stating there opinion is just stepping up the attack on Hamilton's dangerous driving. Massa was on for at least a 6th place finish - he would have been fine for Hamilton to overtake him. But Hamilton needs to earn that overtake. Bloody hell, if Massa pulled over how much more so would we be criticising his driving ability? Hamilton just needs to wait for the right time.

Hamilton is great for the sport, he pulls off squillions of overtakes all the time, against fast and slow drivers. But he needs to be penalised when he gets it wrong, as he not only ruins his own race, but he ruins the race for others. The stewards and the other drivers do not want dangerous drivers in the sport - every time I see Hamilton getting more penalties I remember this guy:

Super Aguri confirmed on May 10th that the Formula One Permanent Bureau has withdrawn Yuji Ide's super license and he will not be able to race in F1 again this season. After an accident at Imola, when he pushed the MF1 of Christijan Albers into a barrel roll, Ide was replaced by Franck Montagny in Europe.

Ide had scant time in the car before the start of the season and the plan was to give him more mileage on the test track with a view of returning to competition once he had more experience. However, with the loss of his super license he will not be back in F1 this year.
"It is with sadness and regret that the team accepts this decision, however Aguri Suzuki and A.Company (Japan) shall continue to seek driving opportunities for Yuji and hopefully a path back into Formula One," said a statement from Super Aguri.
Montagny will continue in the second race seat for the Spanish and Monaco Grands Prix while "discussions with a number of parties continue regarding the permanent positions of second race seat and third driver within the team."


Could you imagine Hamilton receiving similar punishment? Tbh, if Hamilton is not learning from the numerous penalties, the criticism of his colleagues, his managers, and former racers then he deserves a bigger punishment - starting with an exclusion from the next race. If he still doesn't get the message, then his super-license should be withdrawn and he goes elsewhere. Seriously, how many more penalties will it take before enough is enough?

Vettel had two clumsy accidents last year, and recovered by year's end. But Hamilton? What's wrong with him?

Good on Massa. Last night a friend who I was watching the race with said that the drivers are corporate in the post-race press conference. Where's the personality?

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Also as a side note, did anyone notice how both Red Bull drivers made a special effort to praise Renault? Looks like they are being paid big bucks to mention "Renault Engines are reliable." Another demonstration of how F1 is all about the money and sponsors. But good on Renault - they deserve it.

Don't be surprised if next year we see the Renault logo featuring more prominently on the Red Bull car. We could do with seeing less bulls on that car. :D
#277341
The critique has arrived ... and left the building.
Will Gordon Freeman do the same?
Alas, you missed some points in your blog.

No doubt I did; but saying that it's from a very personal point of view, I don't pretend to write a blow by blow account of the race... but thanks for commenting :)
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