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[bud]

I was at KL airport, I could see the track the race was redfagged as I was getting on the plane. I arrive in Thailand to hear Alonso won I missed a crazy race by the sounds.

redfagged?

iPad owns me so much...

[andrew]

Button hitting Karthikeyan was a bit odd. Karthikeyan seemed to be taking a wider line and Button probably thought the door was being left open. Again faults on both parts.

wait a sec... how was any of that Karthikeyan's fault? Jenson f'ed up the turn and couldn't stop. Said so himself. And it's not like there was a blue flag involved. It was for position.

It was mentioned during the commentary that Karthikeyan was taking a wider line than pretty much everyone else so Button probably thought he was being let past.

[calvins48]

Exciting race despite a less favourable result. Ferrari and Alonso got a surprise win but without the rain I doubt they'd have won.

Schumacher seems to have no luck at all so far this season. Grosjean made another horlicks of things again. Disappointing for Lotus as the car is pretty good.

As for the incident between Vettel and Karthikeyan, it has to be a racing incident at best but the powers that be have handed Karthikeyan a 20 second penalty and he is kind of taking the blame for the incident (source). To be fair, there were faults on both sides. Vettel clearly thought he was past but Karthikeyan was being lapped so should have been right out of the way. Perhaps he didn't realise that Vettel was that close behind and he was on the white line which would have been slippery so was moving to get off of it. Can't blame Vettel for being a bit upset. After having 2 seasons that can only be described as phenonemal, he's having a season that has started really badly. Bit of a come down but these things happen.

Red Bull's pit calls at the end were odd - pit, no don't pit, STOP THE CAR!!!!

Button hitting Karthikeyan was a bit odd. Karthikeyan seemed to be taking a wider line and Button probably thought the door was being left open. Again faults on both parts.

Perez was another one who benefitted from the conditions but that shouldn't detract from his fantastic drive. A few more laps and he would have been right behind Alonso. I was really rooting for Perez to catch Alonso and pass him! Hope to see more from Perez as the season goes on.

I just want to echo Horner's point, in modern F1, it is the lapped car's responsibility to ensure the leaders go through, NK's relatively lack of skills have cost the RBR team dearly... JB's accident was totally different from SV's. SV was lapping the HRT while JB was racing the HRT. I agree JB was decent enough to accept the blame, because it was his error. But for SV's event with NK, I find it hard to understand why some bright people would think SV is at fault, maybe they are too involved with supporting their driver in another thread and didn't want to see this incident in a different angle. Anyway, who knows what those 12pts for Red Bull can do at the end of the year. I think, had the HRT become a bit more competitive (ie. Caterham) maybe there are less drivers going to "bully" them. They are 7 seconds off the pace in their 3rd year, it is hard to give them the respect they expect.

I think a lot of it has to do with the drivers involved.

Sebastian's dominance last year annoyed a lot of people - some became fans of Seb while others saw him as the new Schumacher who always wins and makes the sport boring. So naturally they'd side with Narain because he's the underdog and most people love an underdog.

[calvins48]

I'm agreeing with yamashek's post above, although initially I thought Vettel was at fault. NK did say that he had to move back in and "Vettel was there" so it seem that he accepts responsibility - although harsh.

It is unprofessional of Vettel to label him an idiot though, and I do hope to see an apology from Vettel in the next few days. He was heated up in the moment.

I did not see Button's incident so cannot comment on that.

he had to "move back in" because he was out of track! Passing cars need to leave room for the passed cars.

"move back in" for what? he isn't racing anyone around him... the blue flagged car has the responsibility to get out of the way, fully.

from the replay, it seems NK has more room to his left.

Narain said that if he moved anymore to the left, he'd have gone onto the slippery part of the circuit. He was annoyed at how the faster drivers view the lapped cars. What was he supposed to do? Spin out on the slippery stuff? He has as much right to the circuit as the cars lapping him, he got out of the way as best he could.

[LewEngBridewell]

I am seriously pissed off about sauber. Perez should have pulled an alonzo and told his team to shut the f*** up and let him race,

Maybe he did, and ran the car off the road because of it.

We have no idea what happened there.

It's a shame he made that mistake because he was clearly faster than the Ferrari!

It would've been interesting to see whether the Scuderia would've sent stern messages to Peter Sauber, while under pressure!

[vaptin]

I am seriously pissed off about sauber. Perez should have pulled an alonzo and told his team to shut the f*** up and let him race,

Maybe he did, and ran the car off the road because of it.

We have no idea what happened there.

It's a shame he made that mistake because he was clearly faster than the Ferrari!

It would've been interesting to see whether the Scuderia would've sent stern messages to Peter Sauber, while under pressure!

It would've been great to watch, as a Alonso fan I admit that.

Alonso was cleverly using his kers in the DRS zone, so as to negate the effect, Perez would probably have needed to go wheel to wheel for a few corners against a one handed Alonso (he other gesturing furiously).

[acosmichippo]

unless Perez also saved his KERS for the DRS zone, negating the negating.

[andrew]

I am seriously pissed off about sauber. Perez should have pulled an alonzo and told his team to shut the f*** up and let him race,

Maybe he did, and ran the car off the road because of it.

We have no idea what happened there.

It's a shame he made that mistake because he was clearly faster than the Ferrari!

It would've been interesting to see whether the Scuderia would've sent stern messages to Peter Sauber, while under pressure!

But was the Ferrari engined team told to hold back from their engine supplier? That's the latest conspiracy theory. Some people are thinking too much of Petrov being told that they need the position or in other words don't risk trashing the car.

Source

[acosmichippo]

I am seriously pissed off about sauber. Perez should have pulled an alonzo and told his team to shut the f*** up and let him race,

Maybe he did, and ran the car off the road because of it.

We have no idea what happened there.

It's a shame he made that mistake because he was clearly faster than the Ferrari!

It would've been interesting to see whether the Scuderia would've sent stern messages to Peter Sauber, while under pressure!

But was the Ferrari engined team told to hold back from their engine supplier? That's the latest conspiracy theory. Some people are thinking too much of Petrov being told that they need the position or in other words don't risk trashing the car.

Source

I think you mean Perez there.

Anyway, I agree. Any slight whiff of weirdness in the vicinity of Ferrari is automatically met with at least three different conspiracy theories.

I wonder if it was a Torro Rosso car (another Ferrari-powered team) if we'd be having the same discussion...

[spankyham]

Could not believe my luck, I was due to arrive Singapore just before race start, but my dam flight was delayed. Was supposed to arrive just after a normal race would have finished. Then I get a text from a mate saying how happy I must be and there were over 20 laps to go. Had no other ideas. Made a few calls, threatened my taxi driver if he didn't break some records getting me to my hotel. Got to watch the dozen laps.

Great drives by Nando and Perez. When was the last time 8th and 9th on the grid finished 1st and second? Some luck went our way - always useful. Excellent job in the pits by the whole team. At times the F2012 looks good, and lots of parts coming for the next 2 races. As I said before the start of the season, no matter where this car starts in terms of performance in Aust, it was always going to improve in leaps and bounds as the team learn more about it. Lets hope they can improve enough to fight at the pointy end in the dry.

Forza Ferrari

[LewEngBridewell]

Could not believe my luck, I was due to arrive Singapore just before race start, but my dam flight was delayed. Was supposed to arrive just after a normal race would have finished. Then I get a text from a mate saying how happy I must be and there were over 20 laps to go. Had no other ideas. Made a few calls, threatened my taxi driver if he didn't break some records getting me to my hotel. Got to watch the dozen laps.

Great drives by Nando and Perez. When was the last time 8th and 9th on the grid finished 1st and second? Some luck went our way - always useful. Excellent job in the pits by the whole team. At times the F2012 looks good, and lots of parts coming for the next 2 races. As I said before the start of the season, no matter where this car starts in terms of performance in Aust, it was always going to improve in leaps and bounds as the team learn more about it. Lets hope they can improve enough to fight at the pointy end in the dry.

Forza Ferrari

Glad you got to see some of the action spanky. A big moment in what has otherwise been a difficult year for the Scuderia!

[bud]

I wonder if it was a Torro Rosso car (another Ferrari-powered team) if we'd be having the same discussion...

Well they are in a tough position they are meant to help Redbull Racing really!

But this isn't the first time Saubers been involved in a conspiracy theory with Ferrari, maybe they should change engine supplier.

[zurich_allan]

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I watched it a dozen times or so, the first seconds that is. And it sure looks like NK is moving to the right (instead of staying in his racing line to the left) after SV passed him and thus, drove into SV with his front wing. Hence the penalty from the stewards.

Actually no - this clip doesn't tell the whole story either - although it does show more than what others are picking up on from it. I can almost understand some people trying to argue now that it's NK's fault, due to the combination of him saying that he moved right off the line and the viewing of this angle, however what else this vid shows right at the start is that SV was actually off the racing line at the point he decided to make the overtake - it was mid way through a corner - not on a straight, when both drivers would naturally be turning to the right in any case. If you watch the other cars even in this video you can see that the drying racing line IS to move from right to left as the car comes off the corner, so even if NK DID move slightly more to the right than what Vettel thought, Vettel should have allowed for that as it IS the natural line. Vettel looked like the only car in that clip that WASN'T moving from left to right (or right to left as you face it) and there were several others you can see even in this short clip.

Thing is, regardless of the actual fault (which I still think lies with Vettel due to not giving the other car any room or allowing ANY margin for error on a wet-ish track, as well as overtaking in the middle of the corner rather than doing the mature racing thing and waiting until the straight - maybe costing him 0.2 of a second!), his reaction afterward is utterly unacceptable. It is, as others have pointed out just entirely immature and uncalled for in what, no matter where you lay the blame is certainly NOT clear-cut to the extent that he should be saying that.

And please note - no team favourites here so no bias - I may have a McLaren in my avatar, but my list of favourite drivers come from a lot of different teams with Vettel being one of them.

[acosmichippo]

I wonder if it was a Torro Rosso car (another Ferrari-powered team) if we'd be having the same discussion...

Well they are in a tough position they are meant to help Redbull Racing really!

Exactly my point. If Ferrari are so controlling over their engine customers, why are they selling engines to a Red Bull team?

[f1ea]

I'm still surprised at the race result!

Been too busy... but yeah that was great. A couple of very good solid drives. Bit of a dissapointment with the Mercs, but its ok; seeing Lotus/Renault and Sauber doing well is much more pleasing.

The Williams seems like a good car, but Maldonado being a bit of a hot head. Perez on the other hand, looks like a very clever driver.

Ok so now Scuderia... fix that thing and lets get them horses running