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#237890
Poor guy. Just when he gets his hands on his best ever F1 car. What rotten luck. Cant help echoing the thoughts of 'what was he doing rallying?' But its done now. Did I read he was on the way to the start of the rally????, Or was it in the actual rally?

I heard it on the news coming back from a weekend away and assumed it was just fractures. It sounds a hell of a lot more serious than that.
Thoughts go to him. Lest hope the best doctors can do their magic.
#237893
Per Autosport:

Robert Kubica looks set to miss the start of the new Formula 1 season after suffering multiple fractures to his right arm, leg and hand in a crash on the Ronde di Andora rally on Sunday.

The Polish driver was airlifted to hospital on Sunday morning following a high-speed crash that took place 4.6 kilometres into the opening stage of the event, on a stage near the village of Testico in Italy.

Kubica is understood to have swiped a wall and hit a crash barrier in a Super 2000 Skoda Fabia on the first stage of the rally - which he was competing in shortly after completing the first week of pre-season F1 testing with Renault at Valencia.

According to sources at the event, Kubica was trapped in the car for more than one hour until specialist extraction equipment could get to the scene of the crash.

There are unconfirmed reports that Kubica's injuries were caused by the end of a crash barrier penetrating the footwell of the car - which would explain why his injuries were on his right hand side rather than by the door.


According to a statement issued by Kubica's Renault team, he has been diagnosed with multiple fractures to his right arm, leg and hand.

After being transferred to the Santa Corona Hospital in Pietra Ligure, Kubica underwent surgery on Sunday afternoon for the injuries he suffered - with doctors believed to be focusing their efforts on his injured hand and, in particular, its blood supply.

An update from the hospital in the afternoon said that the operation on Kubica would continue until Sunday evening. And although amputation of the hand had been ruled out, it was too early to give a prognosis on how well the hand would recover from the injuries it suffered.

It was also confirmed that Kubica was out of immediate danger, and there was no threat to his life. His co-driver Jakub Gerber was not hurt.

Kubica's injuries look almost certain to prevent him starting the season for Renault, with the first race of the campaign due to take place in Bahrain on March 13.

Renault will likely call on reserve driver Bruno Senna to fill in in the short term, but the team could opt for a more experienced driver if Kubica faces a more lengthy lay-off.
#237894
Saw in another forum a rumour that Giancarlo Fischella (!), Ferrari test driver, should be available to quick take over injured Robert Kubica's seat. What do you think about that? Much better than Bruno Senna in my ears anyhow... :banghead:

Personally I think Fisichellas destiny out in the cold after a bitwise brilliant season in Force India 2009 (Pole and 2nd place in Belgium etc) was a great loss for the F1-sport. He has so much racing in him, and naturally struggled jumping in after Felipe Massa got injured in Ferrari. (Hey, how many can compete with Raikkonen anyhow?).

Just a rumour of course, but I have my fingers crossed. Fisichella delivered a great teamwork earlier in the team between 2005 and 2007. Both Barrichello and Schumacher has recently proved that 37 years ain't a no no in F1... :clap:
#237895
Gonna merge these two threads i think.

If i was running Renault and didn't want to get Senna a shot i'd be getting Heidfeld in over Fisi...
#237896
There is a history of people who WOULD have been WDC or arguably WDC material, but got put out of the sport by injury or death, sustained in or outside the sport.

Gilles VIlleneuve
Didier Pironi
Piquet (might have got another, pretty sure he was planning a return, if not then disregard)
Elio DeAngelis
Senna
Ascari(not in the hunt that year but surely the next?)
Lorenzo Bandini
Stephan Bellof

I'm too lazy to continue, I started going alphabetically near the end there, fill in the rest yourself.
#237899
Wow this is very shocking to wake up to. I always liked Kubica, I really thought he had a chance to fight for the WDC this year. I wish him all the best I hope for a speedy recovery. Hopefully we'll see Robert back in an F1 seat sometime, but the reports out right now don't sound too promising. :(
#237913
It really was shocking news when I heard about this happening this morning. We can just all hope that it turns out not to be as bad as is feared / rumoured. Even if the injuries are as bad, we can still hope that the recovery goes well.

Nowhere near as bad obviously, but I was in a similar situation in early November last year after whilst playing football someone put in a horrendous tackle on me from behind, breaking my left leg in three places and detaching a section of my ankle joint completely away from the leg, whilst crushing part of what was left. I had surgery to put everything back together in which they found a further complication that made fixation with titanium screws etc very difficult - the operation took substantially longer than it should have. Then I nearly died from complications resulting in my being on life support for 14 hours.

As I say, this was at the start of November - just 3 months ago. My prognosis was not good. Doctors thought I might recover around 50% range of motion in the leg / ankle. I was told I'd almost certainly never play football again, and probably never run again. With careful work and follow up between then and now including so far multiple manipulations of the leg prior to it being fully healed, and now about a dozen sessions of physio since having my 6th cast removed 3 weeks ago the Doctors have been astounded by the progress I've managed to make. I'm now rid of the crutches, using a basic walking stick and hoping to be rid of that in no more than a further two weeks. The most recent tests have put my current range of motion between 70-80%, and moving onto stage two physio next week for a further month or two, they now think that although I'll never get back to 100%, there's a strong possibility I might get back to 90-95%. They've given me the all clear to enter a 10km road race at the end of June and say I can likely get back to playing football again around July as long as everything continues to progress.

In short the human body can do amazing things even when the odds are against it. Robert Kubica should never give up hope. What is good is that clearly it's not just F1 that's his passion, it's racing in general. That's good, as someone (think it was Hexogram) said that if there's any amputation then his racing career is finished..... someone should have told Alex Zanardi that as he clearly never had any idea that was the case before he went and won multiple races over the space of three or four years in the WTCC in spite of not having any legs any more.... Hopefully Kubica will make it back to F1, but if not then at least it appears his general health will recover and he'll still be able to indulge in his passion in some other way.

As for the issue of 'why was he racing something else other than F1?', Kubica has always had it written into his Contract that he's allowed to race in other series as a fundamental clause of anything he signs. He's never hidden that. Teams can add in 'no-compete' clauses, technically called restrictive covenants, but there's a problem in that those types of clauses are actually from a strictly legal perspective unenforceable, verging on illegal as they breach competition laws. There's almost an element of the old 'gentleman's agreement' about them. There are complex scenarios in which they are legal and enforceable, but more often than not a judge in a court will not uphold them when it comes down to it. Prima Facie, they are illegal. I can expand if anyone wants, but I'm sure you wouldn't want to know the boring, technical ins and outs...

Finally, through all of this, I hope that Bruno Senna does get a chance in the seat for the short term, as I still think he has the potential to do very well given the right machinery. That HRT last year with that low amount of downforce meant nobody was going to do well, especially someone with an aggresive driving style. Senna in a well balanced car could be a world apart to how he was last year...
#237921
It really was shocking news when I heard about this happening this morning. We can just all hope that it turns out not to be as bad as is feared / rumoured. Even if the injuries are as bad, we can still hope that the recovery goes well.

Nowhere near as bad obviously, but I was in a similar situation in early November last year after whilst playing football someone put in a horrendous tackle on me from behind, breaking my left leg in three places and detaching a section of my ankle joint completely away from the leg, whilst crushing part of what was left. I had surgery to put everything back together in which they found a further complication that made fixation with titanium screws etc very difficult - the operation took substantially longer than it should have. Then I nearly died from complications resulting in my being on life support for 14 hours.

As I say, this was at the start of November - just 3 months ago. My prognosis was not good. Doctors thought I might recover around 50% range of motion in the leg / ankle. I was told I'd almost certainly never play football again, and probably never run again. With careful work and follow up between then and now including so far multiple manipulations of the leg prior to it being fully healed, and now about a dozen sessions of physio since having my 6th cast removed 3 weeks ago the Doctors have been astounded by the progress I've managed to make. I'm now rid of the crutches, using a basic walking stick and hoping to be rid of that in no more than a further two weeks. The most recent tests have put my current range of motion between 70-80%, and moving onto stage two physio next week for a further month or two, they now think that although I'll never get back to 100%, there's a strong possibility I might get back to 90-95%. They've given me the all clear to enter a 10km road race at the end of June and say I can likely get back to playing football again around July as long as everything continues to progress.

:clap::thumbup:

That's truly awesome, man. Here's wishing you a 101% recovery! :yes:
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