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#228934
Okay, just quickly crunched the numbers. Where one driver has gone out in Q2 (for example), i have used the other driver's Q2 time too in the interest of fairness. I left out Monaco here cause Alonso set no time, and vice versa for Massa in Singapore. I thought about just using the slowest time of all in Q1 but that seems like a stupid comparison to include.

I simply took a mean gap, which give Alonso as having an average quali advantage of 0.27s.

The closest gap was 0.006 in the rain at Malaysia, the largest gap was interestingly Massa beating Alonso in Belgium by 1.127s (although i believe Alonso was caught by rain). The biggest gap Alonso managed over Massa was a similar 1.112s in Brazil, but that was again in wet conditions. In the dry, the biggest gap was in Korea at just over 8 tenths.
#229028
If you want exact driver comnparisons then you would need to have them in the same car/team. Then you can see who is fastest, who makes the most difference. Other than that there are too many variables to be exact.


No. I only want to know the exact impact have had any of the two drivers in the position of their team in this list about fastest cars. I mean what percentage of best qualies and best laps has had any of them inside his own team.


That is dependant on who your team mate is as much as how good you are. But if thats the statistic you want heres the quali statistics
Button 5 hamilton 14
Schumacher 5 Rosberg 14
Vettel 12 Webber 7
Massa4 Alonso 15
Barrichello 13 Hulkenberg 6
Kubica 17 Petrov 2
Suthil 16 Liuzzi 3
Buemi 11 Alguersari8
Trulli 11 Kovi 8
Chand /Yam/Klein 7 Senna/yam 12
DLR/Heidfeld 8 Kobi 11
Glock 17 Di Grassi 2

So no real surprises there!


im not surprised that lewis beat jenson in quali so much considering that jenson had car issues for a majority of the year, plus im not that surprised about renault and force india, oh and ferrari too! :hehe:
#229029
Wow! I didn't know Jenson and Michael were at the same level in qualifying in comparison to their teammates! :hehe:
By Jack Master
#229145
I like very much Jenson as a driver and a person. He is not as fast as Lewis but he is very solid and intelligent. He has had some problems with his car during the season. I especially remember one when a mechanic left something that blocked the radiator and he had to retire just after the start of the race. As a person he fits very well with the gentleman driver image. He is absolutely different to Lewis.
#229150
I like very much Jenson as a driver and a person. As a person he fits very well with the gentleman driver image. He is absolutely different to Lewis.



You DO KNOW that Jenson was the biggest PLAYBOY in F1??? DO YOU ??? :hehe::hehe::hehe:
#229153
I like very much Jenson as a driver and a person. As a person he fits very well with the gentleman driver image. He is absolutely different to Lewis.



You DO KNOW that Jenson was the biggest PLAYBOY in F1??? DO YOU ??? :hehe::hehe::hehe:

James Hunt, Eddie Irvine and others were way bigger playboys than JB.
#229154
I like very much Jenson as a driver and a person. As a person he fits very well with the gentleman driver image. He is absolutely different to Lewis.



You DO KNOW that Jenson was the biggest PLAYBOY in F1??? DO YOU ??? :hehe::hehe::hehe:

James Hunt, Eddie Irvine and others were way bigger playboys than JB.

I dont disagree with you,just with him making :bs: statements!
By Jack Master
#229155
I like very much Jenson as a driver and a person. As a person he fits very well with the gentleman driver image. He is absolutely different to Lewis.



You DO KNOW that Jenson was the biggest PLAYBOY in F1??? DO YOU ??? :hehe::hehe::hehe:

James Hunt, Eddie Irvine and others were way bigger playboys than JB.


I thought that the biggest Play Boy in Formula 1’ history had been Flavio Briatore.
#229156
I like very much Jenson as a driver and a person. As a person he fits very well with the gentleman driver image. He is absolutely different to Lewis.



You DO KNOW that Jenson was the biggest PLAYBOY in F1??? DO YOU ??? :hehe::hehe::hehe:

James Hunt, Eddie Irvine and others were way bigger playboys than JB.


I thought that the biggest Play Boy in Formula 1’ history had been Flavio Briatore.

The biggest and fattest:
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By Jack Master
#229163
I like very much Jenson as a driver and a person. As a person he fits very well with the gentleman driver image. He is absolutely different to Lewis.



You DO KNOW that Jenson was the biggest PLAYBOY in F1??? DO YOU ??? :hehe::hehe::hehe:

James Hunt, Eddie Irvine and others were way bigger playboys than JB.


I thought that the biggest Play Boy in Formula 1’ history had been Flavio Briatore.

The biggest and fattest:
Image


You apparently have a good couple of bottoms….Sorry; I wanted to say of wings….OF WINGS.
#229166
I like very much Jenson as a driver and a person. As a person he fits very well with the gentleman driver image. He is absolutely different to Lewis.



You DO KNOW that Jenson was the biggest PLAYBOY in F1??? DO YOU ??? :hehe::hehe::hehe:

James Hunt, Eddie Irvine and others were way bigger playboys than JB.

I dont disagree with you,just with him making :bs: statements!


Just an observation F1er, but I thought that post of Jack's was rather complimentary to Jenson. The bit about being different to Lewis is, at worst, innocuous.

In one of your previous posts you said something about hate and love blinding people, which is sometimes true.

I'm a lover not a hater :-)

Perhaps you and Jack can cut each other some slack and accept that you're gonna have different opinions :loveyoutoo:
By Jack Master
#229176
About Flavio, I find he could easily have made his life as a swim trunks top model. He looks pretty natural and at easy with this nice model one piece black for men.
#229189
If you want exact driver comnparisons then you would need to have them in the same car/team. Then you can see who is fastest, who makes the most difference. Other than that there are too many variables to be exact.


No. I only want to know the exact impact have had any of the two drivers in the position of their team in this list about fastest cars. I mean what percentage of best qualies and best laps has had any of them inside his own team.


That is dependant on who your team mate is as much as how good you are. But if thats the statistic you want heres the quali statistics
Button 5 hamilton 14
Schumacher 5 Rosberg 14
Vettel 12 Webber 7
Massa4 Alonso 15
Barrichello 13 Hulkenberg 6
Kubica 17 Petrov 2
Suthil 16 Liuzzi 3
Buemi 11 Alguersari8
Trulli 11 Kovi 8
Chand /Yam/Klein 7 Senna/yam 12
DLR/Heidfeld 8 Kobi 11
Glock 17 Di Grassi 2

So no real surprises there!


Hey! Here is another leak according to the races results of 2007 :

Hamilton 7 Alonso 10

Who beats who?

:rofl::laugh::laugh::laugh:
#229208
If you want exact driver comnparisons then you would need to have them in the same car/team. Then you can see who is fastest, who makes the most difference. Other than that there are too many variables to be exact.


No. I only want to know the exact impact have had any of the two drivers in the position of their team in this list about fastest cars. I mean what percentage of best qualies and best laps has had any of them inside his own team.


That is dependant on who your team mate is as much as how good you are. But if thats the statistic you want heres the quali statistics
Button 5 hamilton 14
Schumacher 5 Rosberg 14
Vettel 12 Webber 7
Massa4 Alonso 15
Barrichello 13 Hulkenberg 6
Kubica 17 Petrov 2
Suthil 16 Liuzzi 3
Buemi 11 Alguersari8
Trulli 11 Kovi 8
Chand /Yam/Klein 7 Senna/yam 12
DLR/Heidfeld 8 Kobi 11
Glock 17 Di Grassi 2

So no real surprises there!


Hey! Here is another leak according to the races results of 2007 :

Hamilton 7 Alonso 10

Who beats who?

:rofl::laugh::laugh::laugh:


We were talking about this season :rolleyes:

OK,if those are the figures are correct, a double world champion got 3 more poles than a rookie, shame he couldnt have kept his head and done something with them instead of let the rookie beat him.

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