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By AKR
#205057
Planetf1 is by far the worst I've seen


The mods here are more tolerant over all of our bantering. The mods at PF1 probably have no sense of humour. :D
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By AKR
#205059
It's a little rich for a Ferrari fan to be accusing anyone else of cheating don't you think ? You state, correctly, that in 2007 Hamilton was involved in the team involved in the "Spygate" scandal. What you fail to mention is that your current Ferrari driver was at the centre of that scandal & instrumental in propogating it along with others. The whole sordid mess only came to light after Fernando threw his toys out of the pram & tried to blackmail Ron Dennis . This was after intentionally blocking Hamilton's qualy lap in Hungary. I also think you'll find that the fine was a little bigger than the 1,000,000 you mention.

What he did at other teams is irrelevant to Ferrari. The current Ferrari driver cheated when he was at McLaren. So what. He hasn't cheated at Ferrari. By the way hadn't Alonso not spoken when at McLaren, McLaren would of gotten away with cheating. For this Alonso can only be proclaimed a Ferrari hero forever. :thumbup:

You mention that Hamilton cheated at Spa in 2008. I don' remember that incident. I do remember, though, the FIA robbing him of a fantastic win on a trumped up technicality..
Of course, Hamilton and McLaren can never do no wrong. Hamilton cheated and paid the penalty. If anyone deserved to win at Spa 2008 it was Kimi.

You say that Hamilton cheated in both Malaysia & Canada this year by driving alongside another driver in the pitlane. Well that isn't desirable, but it isn't cheating. In fact I was impressed with Alonso in Canada for not doing a Vettel (that tactic came back to bit him big time in Turkey didn't it?) & trying to swerve Hamilton towards the pit crews.
With the Malaysian part I meant he cheated the way he blocked Petrov. And the pit incidents were dangerous. Penalties should of been handed down to Hamilton without any doubt. Hamilton is a cheat and everyone knows it. Notice as I haven't once cursed Jensen Button. He as well drives for McLaren. But at least he as an individual isn't a born cheater.

Ferrari is a great team as you say. They are the only team that have been there since the beginning, But don't use this fact to belittle other teams. I think if you look at it from terms of strike rate (wins per start) then McLaren are actually more successful.


Umm actually you are wrong. Read the below from Wikipedia.

The Ferrari team has achieved unparalleled success in Formula One and, as of the 2010 Canadian Grand Prix, holds many significant records including:

* Most constructor championships: 16
* Most driver championships: 15
* Most Grands Prix started (all-time): 800
* Most wins (all-time): 211[2]
* Most wins (season): 15 (shared with McLaren)
* Most podiums (all-time): 633
* Most podiums (season): 29
* Most one-two finishes (all-time): 80
* Most pole positions (all-time): 203
* Most points (all-time): 5,156.27
* Most points (season): 262
* Most fastest laps (all-time): 220
* Highest winning percentage: ~26% (for teams with at least 10 wins)
* Most F1 fatalities: 7 (4 race, 1 qualifying, 2 testing)

In 2004, Ferrari also surpassed Ford as the most successful F1 engine manufacturer, with 182 wins (to Ford's 176 wins). Due to the availability of the Cosworth V8 to private teams, a total of 6,639 Ford-powered cars were entered between 1967 and 2004, compared to 1,979 starts for Ferrari and Petronas-badged engines during the same period.
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By AKR
#205067
AKR - Ferrari mentality at its best : over emotional, irrational and content lacking of substance :rofl:


Actualy no you're wrong. McLaren menality je najbolje oops wrong language (i have had a few drinks), I mean McLaren mentality is the best. Can never do no wrong, always the victim of the FIA's wrong doing and very, very, very full of SRANJE! oops I meant shlt. :rofl:
By Gaz
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AKR - Ferrari mentality at its best : over emotional, irrational and content lacking of substance :rofl:


Actualy no you're wrong. McLaren menality je najbolje oops wrong language (i have had a few drinks), I mean McLaren mentality is the best. Can never do no wrong, always the victim of the FIA's wrong doing and very, very, very full of SRANJE! oops I meant shlt. :rofl:


Nope Mclaren admit when they are wrong, your confusing some fanboys statments with the view of the team.

Ferrari never ever admit when they are wrong, feel they are F1 and if somthing isnt going their way change it.
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By AKR
#205075
AKR - Ferrari mentality at its best : over emotional, irrational and content lacking of substance :rofl:


Actualy no you're wrong. McLaren menality je najbolje oops wrong language (i have had a few drinks), I mean McLaren mentality is the best. Can never do no wrong, always the victim of the FIA's wrong doing and very, very, very full of SRANJE! oops I meant shlt. :rofl:


Nope Mclaren admit when they are wrong, your confusing some fanboys statments with the view of the team.

Ferrari never ever admit when they are wrong, feel they are F1 and if somthing isnt going their way change it.


McLaren fans never admit they are wrong is what I am saying, McLaren fans claim that McLaren can do no wrong, are always the victims of the FIA and are so full of it. And Valencia is proof. Alonso was the instead the victim of the stuff up of the stewards who took too long to punsih cheating Hamilton.

By the way when are you going to get it in your glava oops I meant head that Ferrari is F1, whereas McLaren are just an F1 team. Razrumješ? oops I meant you understand? :thumbup:
By Gaz
#205078
AKR - Ferrari mentality at its best : over emotional, irrational and content lacking of substance :rofl:


Actualy no you're wrong. McLaren menality je najbolje oops wrong language (i have had a few drinks), I mean McLaren mentality is the best. Can never do no wrong, always the victim of the FIA's wrong doing and very, very, very full of SRANJE! oops I meant shlt. :rofl:


Nope Mclaren admit when they are wrong, your confusing some fanboys statments with the view of the team.

Ferrari never ever admit when they are wrong, feel they are F1 and if somthing isnt going their way change it.


McLaren fans never admit they are wrong is what I am saying, McLaren fans claim that McLaren can do no wrong, are always the victims of the FIA and are so full of it. And Valencia is proof. Alonso was the instead the victim of the stuff up of the stewards who took too long to punsih cheating Hamilton.

By the way when are you going to get it in your glava oops I meant head that Ferrari is F1, whereas McLaren are just an F1 team. Razrumješ? oops I meant you understand? :thumbup:


Yeh but this isnt' about Ferrari's fans or Mclarens fans it about The Scunderia itself and the way it conducts itself as a team.

Mclaren itself admits when it has broken the rules

Oz 2009
"The Times understands that Martin Whitmarsh ... has written to Max Mosley, the president of the FIA, informing him that his team accept that they are in breach of Article
151c of the Formula One sporting regulations, which covers bringing the sport into disrepute.

"The letter also contains a full apology from Whitmarsh for this latest serious transgression by the Woking-based team," The Times said.


Ferrari would never ever ever do that.

Formula 1 is Many teams vs Many Teams the fact that Ferrari and Mclaren have resumed the fight after a breif restbite in 2009 is fantastic for the sport.

If all the teams but Ferrari left F1 it would die, i mean who watches Formula BMW? hardly anyone so if F1 became Formula Ferrari it would be rubbish.
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By AKR
#205079

Yeh but this isnt' about Ferrari's fans or Mclarens fans it about The Scuderia itself and the way it conducts itself as a team.

Mclaren itself admits when it has broken the rules



I don't recall Ferrari cheating to be in position to have admit anything. :wink:

By the way, McLaren is so very boring. I cannot understand what anyone sees in them. They are just like an everyday Vauxhall. BORING.
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By Jamie
#205082
They should turn around soon.....



Denthúl
Why is your pic not Barichello's new one? (helmet)


Because I don't like it as much as the older one. :)


Get it on there me ol' mate :)
I like it, the colour scheme is cool :)
By Gaz
#205084

Yeh but this isnt' about Ferrari's fans or Mclarens fans it about The Scuderia itself and the way it conducts itself as a team.

Mclaren itself admits when it has broken the rules



I don't recall Ferrari cheating to be in position to have admit anything. :wink:

By the way, McLaren is so very boring. I cannot understand what anyone sees in them. They are just like an everyday Vauxhall. BORING.


Oz 2007 - Fleix Floor
"media day testing" June 2010

I'd rather have a MP4-12c than a Vauxhall or a Ferrari anyday of the week
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By RA Dunk
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By the way, McLaren is so very boring. I cannot understand what anyone sees in them. They are just like an everyday Vauxhall. BORING.



It's good watching Mclaren at the front of just about every race though to me what is boring is watching a certain team race midfield, all season, every race, both drivers, then whine like five year olds when something does not go there way.
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By Jamie
#205091
How refreshing, a Ferrari vs. McLaren argument instead of a Lewis vs. Jenson argument.



Where have you been?

This is a constant argument.

Next is Alonso V Hamilton
By manmonkee
#205096
Last Race (Canada) Ferrari felt they lost out due to back makers, domeicali comes out with typical Itallian arm waving claming that these slower teams should be out and three car teams should be brought in.

This Race Gone (Valancia) they loose out with abit of bad luck from the safty car and now they want the safty car rules changes.

I vaugly remember them being the same after Alonso's engine failure - demanding testing be returned?

Every time somthing dosn't go Ferraris way they demand changes its getting stupid.


They've definitely have a mammoth pickle up their arse about all this conspiracy Hokum, I thing we all realize it's just sour grapes, yes Lewis got a drive through and he came out in the same position, get over it.
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