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[Denthúl]

Its other proviso is that the tyres would be mounted on 18 inch rims rather than the current 13 inch ones, in order to allow Michelin to share its technology between F1 and its current racing series.

What kind of effects would that have, I wonder?

[Gaz]

Its other proviso is that the tyres would be mounted on 18 inch rims rather than the current 13 inch ones, in order to allow Michelin to share its technology between F1 and its current racing series.

What kind of effects would that have, I wonder?

Well if you reduce the size of tires sidewall then you get less flex from the tire.

[Denthúl]

Its other proviso is that the tyres would be mounted on 18 inch rims rather than the current 13 inch ones, in order to allow Michelin to share its technology between F1 and its current racing series.

What kind of effects would that have, I wonder?

Well if you reduce the size of tires sidewall then you get less flex from the tire.

So we're looking at less grip and possibly higher wear? I don't really know much about tyres >.<

[antoniob]

Its other proviso is that the tyres would be mounted on 18 inch rims rather than the current 13 inch ones, in order to allow Michelin to share its technology between F1 and its current racing series.

What kind of effects would that have, I wonder?

Well if you reduce the size of tires sidewall then you get less flex from the tire.

So we're looking at less grip and possibly higher wear? I don't really know much about tyres >.<

more mechanical grip..

[What's Burning?]

Something interesting about the topic I read today on SPEED. I have to say that I had never heard of Avon tires, and Cooper tires here in the states fills the high milege, not high performance cheaper tire niche.

Avon May Become Tire Supplier
Avon, a tire supplier based in the UK, could be moving to F1 in 2011...

Avon has confirmed reports it is a potential supplier of tires in Formula One next year.

The name entered the frame as a potential replacement for F1's departing sole supplier, Bridgestone, in China last weekend, amid suggestions the teams group FOTA had agreed on an in-principle deal with Michelin.

But with the famous French marque wanting to be paid and pushing for regulations allowing much lower profile tires, it was rumored Avon was favored by Bernie Ecclestone and the smaller teams as a non-branded and cheaper option.

UK based Avon, supplier to the defunct A1GP open wheeler series, was sold to Ohio based Cooper in 1997.

Its motor racing division said in a statement that it "has been approached" to supply tires to F1 teams.

"The company is in discussion with the relevant parties and cannot comment further at this stage," said Avon Cooper.

It is rumored that Bridgestone could remain quietly involved beyond this year as the non-official supplier of technology and personnel to Avon.

F1 team bosses Martin Whitmarsh and Stefano Domenicali said they are confident the issue will be resolved by the next race in Barcelona.

"I think we will know something more, I would say 100 percent, by Barcelona," Ferrari's Domenicali said before departing Shanghai.

[EwanM]

Let us allow Juan to decide!

P.S Has Mario T found a new job already?

[Jensonb]

With regards to Avon Cooper:

Totally called it.

[darwin dali]

With regards to Avon Cooper:

Totally called it.

Toadallee.

[darwin dali]

ESPNF1:
Pirelli has emerged as a third potential supplier of Formula One tyres in 2011.

It has been confirmed that Michelin, favoured by the FOTA group, as well as Avon-Cooper - believed to be favoured by Bernie Ecclestone and small F1 teams due to its lower-cost proposal - are in the running to replace the departing official supplier Bridgestone. Milan-based Pirelli said late last year that it did not want to enter F1 because it "prefers to develop tyres for racing that will also be used on the road".

But after a shareholder's meeting in Milan on Wednesday, chairman Marco Tronchetti Provera said Pirelli might rethink its attitude if certain conditions are met. Like Michelin, he said Pirelli wants the diameter of F1's tyres to be increased from 13 to 18 inches, and would also need to supply its product with an economic benefit to the company.

According to Italian reports including ANSA and the Milan daily Il Giornale, Tronchetti Provera added that if those conditions can be met, Pirelli would "look into this [F1] world with greater attention". He insisted, however, that at the moment "there is nothing" more to the rumours.

[Jensonb]

ESPNF1:
Pirelli has emerged as a third potential supplier of Formula One tyres in 2011.

It has been confirmed that Michelin, favoured by the FOTA group=

I'm not so certain that's true...I heard FOTA were put off by the cost and demands Michelin were charging/making

[What's Burning?]

Like Michelin, he said Pirelli wants the diameter of F1's tyres to be increased from 13 to 18 inches, and would also need to supply its product with an economic benefit to the company.

It would be remarkable to see the size of the disks and calipers that would be able to fit into an 18" F1 rim. Probably lead to much better heat dissipation and cooling than the 13's. The first car I bought, a 1980 VW Scirocco had 13 inch rims, now most middle of the road cars have 17" rims with 235/50 profile tires so I can certainly see the real world benefit for tire suppliers making this request.

[darwin dali]

ESPN:
Michelin is close to agreeing a deal to return to Formula One in 2011 as a tyre supplier.

Even though Avon and Pirelli have also expressed interest in replacing Bridgestone when it leaves at the end of the season, Germany's Auto Motor und Sport said Michelin is the favourite after watering down some of its earlier demands. The publication said a three-year deal through 2013 is likely, with every team paying the French marque €3 million per season.

The deal will also see Michelin branding on the cars, driver overalls and around the grand prix circuits, but the wheel diameter will not be immediately switched from 13 inches to 18 inches, as previously suggested. Michelin will reportedly provide less tyres per car per weekend than is currently the case, and three different compounds - hard, medium and soft, with the teams able to select which compounds are used.

Representatives of the Italian marque Pirelli will make a presentation to the teams in Spain this weekend, and have been touted as the likely supplier to the GP2 field beginning next year.



3 different compounds per weekend with teams able to choose

[Rivelution]

That Michelin deal sounds nice. I hope they're not the sole supplier though, because I'd like to see a company like Falken Tires in F1 to be honest.

[darwin dali]

BARCELONA, Spain -- Formula One teams are no closer to agreeing on a new tire supplier and are trying to tempt Bridgestone to remain in the sport next year.

Teams met Sunday before the Spanish Grand Prix to discuss whether to let Michelin, Pirelli or Avon replace Bridgestone, but no decision was made. Bridgestone has been the sole supplier since 2007 but has announced it is leaving F1.

McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh says "if we can convince them to remain in the sport then that would be very strong."

Teams are trying to avoid the added costs of a tire redesign, and Whitmarsh says F1 wants to avoid another tire war since "it was massively expensive" the last time.

[bud]

the teams should pay Bridgestone for their tyres.