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By The Oz
#181789
1. McLaren - Team Britain (2 British drivers and 1 British test driver)
2. Mercedes - Team Germany (2 German drivers and 1 German Test driver)
3. Ferrari - Team Italy (Ferrari = Italy, nothing more needs to be said even tho I will. 2 Full Time drivers who speak the language, 2 Test drivers who are Italian too)
4. Lotus - Team Maylasian (Maylasian owned and has support from the government, has a Maylasian Test driver)
5. USF1 - Team USA (American owned and run. Could have a US driver too)
6. Force India - Team India (The name says it all, they had an Indian test driver a few years ago too)
7. Renault - Team France (During there time in the 70's/8-'s they had heaps of wins and podiums from French drivers. Infact for most of those years all their drivers were French and Reanult basically means France)
8. Red Bull - Team Australia/Australasia (Webber is an Aussie, and now they have a Aussie test a driver and a New Zealand test driver)

Other teams you could include
9. Campos - Team Spain (The only team run out of spain. Looked like having an all Spainish line-up at one stage too).


I dont care who owns Lotus, Lotus is British. Always has been and always will be. So according to your logic Lamborghini would be German then? I think not. Lotus is owned by Proton however is Lotus registered as a British company or Malaysian? If it is registered as British then it is British. I will use the Lamborghini example. This is the offical name of Lamborghini. Automobili Lamborghini S.p.A. Note S.p.A. This indicates an Italian company thus no matter if Volkswagen owns it, it is Italian. If Lamborghini were to become German after it became part of Volkswagen then it should of been called Automobil Lamborghini GmbH, SE or AG instead. But it isnt. So it cannot be German.


Well i got some news for ya bud, it is offically a national team of Malyasia. Dont shoot the messager. I'm not saying it effectivaly is i'm saying IT IS. And going by your theory, Britians fav team is McLaren but going by your crazy theory McLaren is New Zealand. So stop trying to rob Maylasian Lotus. Because a few months ago all you Brits were calling it Fake Lotus (which it kinda is). So suck it up and exept the plucky Brits dont have Lotus or every team in the sport.

AND the new Lotus IS NOT related to the old one. So stop sooking.


I am not sooking. I am not even British? :confused: I am an Italian national of mostly Slovenian heritiage. And hertiage is extremly important and Lotus is of British heritiage. If the Malaysians want their own full team why buy Lotus and keep calling it Lotus? Why not rename it to something else. When I see and hear Lotus I think of Colin Chapman, the Englishman who created it. Just like when I hear Ferrari, I thimk of Enzo Ferrari. Anyway if Lotus have a Malaysian super licence then I guess it will be classified as a Malaysian team. No offence to any Malaysians but I think it is a joke and wrong, In terms of F1, Lotus is one of the greats of F1. They were Ferrari's main rival in the 70s just like McLaren is now. Lotus is part of the British success in F1 just like Ferrari is for Italy. If Ferrari all of a sudden became Chinese I would be offended. I am sure many Lotus hard core fans from Britain do not aporeciate it no longer being British. Anyway this is just my opinion. :)


im just saying what it is. Lotus that will compete in 2010 is offically a national team. It has no realation to the older lotus, personally I think there needs to be some relation between the 2 for it to be called Lotus.
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By AKR
#181983
1. McLaren - Team Britain (2 British drivers and 1 British test driver)
2. Mercedes - Team Germany (2 German drivers and 1 German Test driver)
3. Ferrari - Team Italy (Ferrari = Italy, nothing more needs to be said even tho I will. 2 Full Time drivers who speak the language, 2 Test drivers who are Italian too)
4. Lotus - Team Maylasian (Maylasian owned and has support from the government, has a Maylasian Test driver)
5. USF1 - Team USA (American owned and run. Could have a US driver too)
6. Force India - Team India (The name says it all, they had an Indian test driver a few years ago too)
7. Renault - Team France (During there time in the 70's/8-'s they had heaps of wins and podiums from French drivers. Infact for most of those years all their drivers were French and Reanult basically means France)
8. Red Bull - Team Australia/Australasia (Webber is an Aussie, and now they have a Aussie test a driver and a New Zealand test driver)

Other teams you could include
9. Campos - Team Spain (The only team run out of spain. Looked like having an all Spainish line-up at one stage too).


I dont care who owns Lotus, Lotus is British. Always has been and always will be. So according to your logic Lamborghini would be German then? I think not. Lotus is owned by Proton however is Lotus registered as a British company or Malaysian? If it is registered as British then it is British. I will use the Lamborghini example. This is the offical name of Lamborghini. Automobili Lamborghini S.p.A. Note S.p.A. This indicates an Italian company thus no matter if Volkswagen owns it, it is Italian. If Lamborghini were to become German after it became part of Volkswagen then it should of been called Automobil Lamborghini GmbH, SE or AG instead. But it isnt. So it cannot be German.


Well i got some news for ya bud, it is offically a national team of Malyasia. Dont shoot the messager. I'm not saying it effectivaly is i'm saying IT IS. And going by your theory, Britians fav team is McLaren but going by your crazy theory McLaren is New Zealand. So stop trying to rob Maylasian Lotus. Because a few months ago all you Brits were calling it Fake Lotus (which it kinda is). So suck it up and exept the plucky Brits dont have Lotus or every team in the sport.

AND the new Lotus IS NOT related to the old one. So stop sooking.


I am not sooking. I am not even British? :confused: I am an Italian national of mostly Slovenian heritiage. And hertiage is extremly important and Lotus is of British heritiage. If the Malaysians want their own full team why buy Lotus and keep calling it Lotus? Why not rename it to something else. When I see and hear Lotus I think of Colin Chapman, the Englishman who created it. Just like when I hear Ferrari, I thimk of Enzo Ferrari. Anyway if Lotus have a Malaysian super licence then I guess it will be classified as a Malaysian team. No offence to any Malaysians but I think it is a joke and wrong, In terms of F1, Lotus is one of the greats of F1. They were Ferrari's main rival in the 70s just like McLaren is now. Lotus is part of the British success in F1 just like Ferrari is for Italy. If Ferrari all of a sudden became Chinese I would be offended. I am sure many Lotus hard core fans from Britain do not aporeciate it no longer being British. Anyway this is just my opinion. :)


im just saying what it is. Lotus that will compete in 2010 is offically a national team. It has no realation to the older lotus, personally I think there needs to be some relation between the 2 for it to be called Lotus.


Then if there is no relation (Which clearly you are right and there isn't) why call it Lotus? Call it something else as I would say this in a way is an insult to the great Collin Chapman.
By The Oz
#182101
well they brought the rights, they paid money to use the name. Besides Lotus will always live on in everyones hearts
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By AKR
#182107
well they brought the rights, they paid money to use the name. Besides Lotus will always live on in everyones hearts


umm ok. Do you think that Saab now will be more Dutch since Spyker has acquired it? Anyway that's a little off topic but you know what I mean. although on that Saab thing, thank God GM rubbish no longer have Saab. They ruined it and almost killed it.
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By bud
#182115
Lotus road cars has more in common with the old Lotus F1 team than this new team coming into the sport. This Malaysian team have just paid to use the naming rights.
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By RA Dunk
#182118
thank God GM rubbish no longer have Saab. They ruined it and almost killed it.


True, SAAB have always done nice cars, not very sporty cars but nice solidly built comfortable good looking cars, just a pity they went to rat sh!t ..
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By scotty
#182119
thank God GM rubbish no longer have Saab. They ruined it and almost killed it.


True, SAAB have always done nice cars, not very sporty cars but nice solidly built comfortable good looking cars, just a pity they went to rat sh!t ..


Not sporty? Get yourself a 900 Turbo mate... :yes:
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By RA Dunk
#182126

Not sporty? Get yourself a 900 Turbo mate... :yes:

Well ok it had a turbo and it maybe went quit quick but it was no Evo/Impreza killer at handling or anything
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By darwin dali
#182139
thank God GM rubbish no longer have Saab. They ruined it and almost killed it.


True, SAAB have always done nice cars, not very sporty cars but nice solidly built comfortable good looking cars, just a pity they went to rat sh!t ..

Nah, I've never liked the Saab designs - they're ugly.
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By headless
#182193
As Lewis said today at the launch

over 25 nationalities work at Mclaren.

And as I said at the supermarket today

on 2 nationalities were shopping there
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By RA Dunk
#182199
Nah, I've never liked the Saab designs - they're ugly.


Really? I always felt SAAB did some seriously nice cars, Either way it's till ashame they went down the toilet though :(
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By AKR
#182216

Not sporty? Get yourself a 900 Turbo mate... :yes:

Well ok it had a turbo and it maybe went quit quick but it was no Evo/Impreza killer at handling or anything


I used to have a Saab 93 Viggen. It was very quick and I have beaten Subaru WRXes and Skylines with it as well. Although because it is a FWD, it did have a lot of torque on the fron wheels which caused it to veer right during heavy/quick acceleration, but much of a problem for a decent driver to get used to. And yes even the 900 turbos of earlier were quick. I remeber driving a friends early 1990s Saab 900 turbo and it is might quick and still handled better than most cars it was equivelent to of the same era.
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By AKR
#182218
Nah, I've never liked the Saab designs - they're ugly.


Really? I always felt SAAB did some seriously nice cars, Either way it's till ashame they went down the toilet though :(


Hopefull Spkker can change all that. Since Spyker are a super car builder themselves, together with Saab innovation ideas, they hopefully can start making Saabs like they used instead of the GM based rubbish of the last 10 years. I know GM has owned Saab since 1989, but it was on about 50% until 2000 and the Saab cars until around 2001 such as my old Vigger which was a 1999 model were still good.
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By AKR
#182220
As Lewis said today at the launch

over 25 nationalities work at Mclaren.


Are any Italian?
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