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By Gaz
#116333
Martin's comment sums it up.

I don't think the team have made a clear decision to treat Button as their number one driver but it may be a subconscious one
#116341
"Even Ferrari"??? :confused: Ferrari are the worst offenders!


Nope, Ferrari have been notorious throughout F1 history for being a team which refused to use team orders. It was seen as dangerous in the 1950s and 1960s as it led to drivers unnecessarily pushing each other in identical cars, often leading to avoidable accidents which at the time were much more likely to be fatal. Several drivers have attempted to establish a number 1 and 2 status at the team, Surtees, Lauda, Prost but Schumacher, Brawn and Todt were the only ones who were really allowed to see their philosophy through, largely due to the diminishing managerial legacy of Enzo Ferrari following his death in 1988. During the Schumacher years, Ferrari operated a number 1 and 3 driver policy extremely successfully but the equal status of Massa and Kimi is a return to traditional Ferrari operating (along with strategy foul ups and general incompetence)

The equal driver team is in fact something which goes against the traditions and practices of the first 20 or so years of F1.
#116406
It is true that for all teams go on about equal treatment, that only applies so far. Yes, it's important to give them an equal shot at beating the other, but if one eventually is obviously more likely to win, yo have to throw your weight behind them. Part of the McLaren Meltdown (Speaking of which, I'm going to Blog an in-depth analysis of that) was manifested in 2007 by their refusal to back one driver. Look what it got them*.

That being said, it's too early to think Brawn are favourng Jenson. If that does happen, it would come around Race 9 or 10.

*Also note they subsequently switched to a 1-2 System and immediately won.
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It is true that for all teams go on about equal treatment, that only applies so far. Yes, it's important to give them an equal shot at beating the other, but if one eventually is obviously more likely to win, yo have to throw your weight behind them. Part of the McLaren Meltdown (Speaking of which, I'm going to Blog an in-depth analysis of that) was manifested in 2007 by their refusal to back one driver. Look what it got them*.

That being said, it's too early to think Brawn are favourng Jenson. If that does happen, it would come around Race 9 or 10.

*Also note they subsequently switched to a 1-2 System and immediately won.


As the topic starter I feel like summing up my opinion... you're right, the 1-2 system is the most beneficial for teams, it's been proven loads of timesin F1 history. However I hate teams who like to tell they're true sportsmen and treat their drivers equally when they don't. Things like these would ideally be best when clear from the start, otherwise they'll just add up to the bitter feeling you'll get when they come out afterwards. In the meanwhile I heard on the news Button saying he needs to win, and Barrichello hinting that he'll not accept another fake 'equal treatment' . (http://www.forumula1.net/2009/f1/f1-news/rubens-to-quit-if-brawn-favour-button/)
Then, again, I think you're right, favoring one driver over the other is the most logical thing to do at this point: the team may need those points if the other teams catch up in developmant. Only, if they fake an equal treatment they lack sportmanship, sadly. Hope this won't be the case, It'd half kill the excitement of the next races and I actually really like both Brawn Gp and the two drivers. (...and sorry for this longish post :hehe: )
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By Jamie
#117060
Martin's comment sums it up.

I don't think the team have made a clear decision to treat Button as their number one driver but it may be a subconscious one


i totally agree, i think they see Jenson as the one, but really Barrichello would be the best number 1 because of Brazil and the whole Senna ordeal, that would rise sales, Plus Brazil would have a new man to follow? Talent wise RB is the best if given the chance? I think RB needs to stop being the bus boy to JB kick him up the arse and try to win in Monaco! i think he will dominate this race!
#117147
Martin's comment sums it up.

I don't think the team have made a clear decision to treat Button as their number one driver but it may be a subconscious one


i totally agree, i think they see Jenson as the one, but really Barrichello would be the best number 1 because of Brazil and the whole Senna ordeal, that would rise sales, Plus Brazil would have a new man to follow? Talent wise RB is the best if given the chance? I think RB needs to stop being the bus boy to JB kick him up the arse and try to win in Monaco! i think he will dominate this race!

Why would Brawn care about marketing in Brazil? They're British with a British main sponsor. That doesn't mean Jenson has to be their number one, but I can't understand what Brazil has to do with any of it.

Your assertion that Rubens is not being given a fair chance and that's why Jenson is outclassing him is baseless and absurd. Both drivers are supremely talented, Jenson has the upper hand right now. Whether that's indicative of their entire careers is impossible to say and completely immaterial. Jenson is the one doing the job at the moment.
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#117156
Jenson is simply doing a better job at the moment than Rubens? Brawn will eventually get behind Jenson for the title unless Rubens ups his game as it looks like it might tighten up with teams like Red Bull and Ferrari able to deploy upgrades faster than Brawn? Brazil has nothing to do with it? I would imagine that Brazilian fans will be fairly content to cheers on two drivers in front running cars once Ferrari get their act together?
#117159
Regardless of everything, i hope Rubens wins in Brazil this year. It's the very least he deserves. :)
#117167
Regardless of everything, i hope Rubens wins in Brazil this year. It's the very least he deserves. :)

Me too. And before then as well, but I'd be crushed if he didn't get to win at Interlagos.
#117170
Surely, it's an unwritten law of F1 that Rubens Barrichello can't win the Brazilian Grand Prix. I reckon Brawn will be the 2nd best car at best by that point anyway...
#117174
Surely, it's an unwritten law of F1 that Rubens Barrichello can't win the Brazilian Grand Prix. I reckon Brawn will be the 2nd best car at best by that point anyway...

It's possible to win in the second best car, especially considering how much Rubens would want to win there.
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