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[bud]

That's a great decsion. McLaren are cheats. Misleading the stewards is cheating. As a result of once again getting caught cheating, McLaren should be penalised. So no giving 4th back isn't good enough. A penalty must be imposed to discourage future attemps at cheating. So disqualification is fair and Trulli the Italian is given his 3rd place back. One would think that after McLaren got caught cheating off Ferrari in 2007 that they would of learnt their lesson. I guess not. Once a cheater, always a cheater.

and once a lamb always a lamb

Hajde u kurac! You are so full of it bud! But I guess some people never learn. Once full of shiit, always full of more shiit.

yadda yadda yadda AKR talk. i like how you always have to bring nationality into s*** to justify the world in your mind "Trulli the Italian" given his third place back. Fact is he lost "his" third place when he went off track. But again the way you carry on just represents your mindset and knowledge of F1. Youre just a tribal fan youre not an F1 fan! go watch your football if you want to get tribal you nutter!!

this drama is just further evidence of the lack of communication available for teams to race control in times of need or to the lack of knowing the rules or simply the inconsistency of the stewards rulings from race to race causing teams to not know basic rules.
On James Allens site was the Toyota team radio from the last few laps. it was clear from that neither Jarno or the Team knew the rules or what to do.
what should have happened was once Trulli went off race control should have clarrified to McLaren and Toyota who should be in 3rd. they didnt and they are to blame for yet another OFF track "race" result and further bad image to F1.
its really no wonder real race fans are turning away from F1 as racing is done off the track as much as it is on now days

Are you seriously blaming everone else for this and completely disregarding what Macca and Hamilton did?

you missed my point obviously!
a world class sport which calls itself the pinnacle of motorsport should not have this kind of event even happen! McLaren and Toyota shouldnt have been left in the dark knowing what to do and what the stewards would and wouldnt deem correct.
f*** my local karting meet is more professional !

[AKR]

yadda yadda yadda AKR talk. i like how you always have to bring nationality into s*** to justify the world in your mind "Trulli the Italian" given his third place back. Fact is he lost "his" third place when he went off track. But again the way you carry on just represents your mindset and knowledge of F1. Youre just a tribal fan youre not an F1 fan! go watch your football if you want to get tribal you nutter!!

At least I have a cultural identity. Yes I am Italian and I have a rich cultural Identity. What do you have, VBs and fish and chips?

And yes I am not a fan, I am a TIFOSA. Difference is that I go hardcore for my team and I support them like I do in football. [/quote]

this drama is just further evidence of the lack of communication available for teams to race control in times of need or to the lack of knowing the rules or simply the inconsistency of the stewards rulings from race to race causing teams to not know basic rules.
On James Allens site was the Toyota team radio from the last few laps. it was clear from that neither Jarno or the Team knew the rules or what to do.
what should have happened was once Trulli went off race control should have clarrified to McLaren and Toyota who should be in 3rd. they didnt and they are to blame for yet another OFF track "race" result and further bad image to F1.
its really no wonder real race fans are turning away from F1 as racing is done off the track as much as it is on now days

And you are such an expert bud that you know more than the professionals that run the show. If so why don't you quit your current job and become an F1 steward then, or work directly for the FIA.

[AKR]

The FIA statement in part, "driver No 1 Lewis Hamilton and the competitor Vodafone McLaren Mercedes acted in a manner prejudicial to the conduct of the event by providing evidence deliberately misleading to the Stewards at the hearing on Sunday 29th March 2009, a breach of Article 151c of the International Sporting Code."

In one translation, the FIA is saying "Lewis, you are a cheater and a liar.. and so is your team."

His team McCheaters incouraged Lewis Hamilton to lie and mislead so I guess they cheaters to.

Based on all the evidence I think it fair to ask everybody to remove all McCheaters pics from the forum. funny thing is I expected this kind of behaviour from him and it only proves what I said in a earlier post. his " luck of the irish" has run out. so has futile attempts in the past to push the boundaries with the stewards as well. maybe the mccheaters lambs needs a herder ???

luck of the Irish? since when has Lewis been Irish? and how lucky was he in 07? i would say to lose the title with an 18 point lead with two races to go is pretty unlucky if you ask me.......... further evidence of you just posting bullpoo Tony......

Luck of the Irish is just a saying you sod. And in 2007 he was very lucky to even be close to almost winning the championship. If he had no luck on his side he wouldn't of even come close. And on top of that he cheated and was lucky enough to still be allowed to keep his points. I say there was plenty of luck there.

[TheOak]

The FIA statement in part, "driver No 1 Lewis Hamilton and the competitor Vodafone McLaren Mercedes acted in a manner prejudicial to the conduct of the event by providing evidence deliberately misleading to the Stewards at the hearing on Sunday 29th March 2009, a breach of Article 151c of the International Sporting Code."

In one translation, the FIA is saying "Lewis, you are a cheater and a liar.. and so is your team."

His team McCheaters incouraged Lewis Hamilton to lie and mislead so I guess they cheaters to.

Based on all the evidence I think it fair to ask everybody to remove all McCheaters pics from the forum. funny thing is I expected this kind of behaviour from him and it only proves what I said in a earlier post. his " luck of the irish" has run out. so has futile attempts in the past to push the boundaries with the stewards as well. maybe the mccheaters lambs needs a herder ???

luck of the Irish? since when has Lewis been Irish? and how lucky was he in 07? i would say to lose the title with an 18 point lead with two races to go is pretty unlucky if you ask me.......... further evidence of you just posting bullpoo Tony......

But I thought that luck didn't play a part when it comes to Hamiltons driving? I guess when he moves up the grid from last to 3rd it's all due to brilliant driving but if he goes down due to spins and pushing the wrong buttons it's getting unlucky.

[Tony_sa]

The FIA statement in part, "driver No 1 Lewis Hamilton and the competitor Vodafone McLaren Mercedes acted in a manner prejudicial to the conduct of the event by providing evidence deliberately misleading to the Stewards at the hearing on Sunday 29th March 2009, a breach of Article 151c of the International Sporting Code."

In one translation, the FIA is saying "Lewis, you are a cheater and a liar.. and so is your team."

His team McCheaters incouraged Lewis Hamilton to lie and mislead so I guess they cheaters to.

Based on all the evidence I think it fair to ask everybody to remove all McCheaters pics from the forum. funny thing is I expected this kind of behaviour from him and it only proves what I said in a earlier post. his " luck of the irish" has run out. so has futile attempts in the past to push the boundaries with the stewards as well. maybe the mccheaters lambs needs a herder ???

luck of the Irish? since when has Lewis been Irish? and how lucky was he in 07? i would say to lose the title with an 18 point lead with two races to go is pretty unlucky if you ask me.......... further evidence of you just posting bullpoo Tony......

Why the heck do you okes always try to prove a point by bringing old irellevent shiit .. 07 .. he got lucky as well. I can bring up kimi as well in the same instant. but thats not the point. you in denial my dear fool .... seriously in denial.

[bud]

yadda yadda yadda AKR talk. i like how you always have to bring nationality into s*** to justify the world in your mind "Trulli the Italian" given his third place back. Fact is he lost "his" third place when he went off track. But again the way you carry on just represents your mindset and knowledge of F1. Youre just a tribal fan youre not an F1 fan! go watch your football if you want to get tribal you nutter!!

At least I have a cultural identity. Yes I am Italian and I have a rich cultural Identity. What do you have, VBs and fish and chips?

And yes I am not a fan, I am a TIFOSA. Difference is that I go hardcore for my team and I support them like I do in football.

Oh you want to have a go at culture now huh! good work woggy well how about this

Youre a f***ing Slav youre not even Italian you have no identity youre lost in this world claiming to be something youre not!

[AndyLock]

They've only done it because if the appeal against Brawn goes against the team, Hami would inherit 1st place. Unthinkable that the FIA would allow Mclaren to benefit, even by the back door. Now wait and see Brawn GP excluded... it will happen.

[Tony_sa]

TheOak ............... whose side you really on .... ?????... doesn't matter I guess. as long as you also dont have one of those ugly in your face vodafone pics with you. that crap is giving me a headache. driving me to drink.

[bud]

TheOak ............... whose side you really on .... ?????... doesn't matter I guess. as long as you also dont have one of those ugly in your face vodafone pics with you. that crap is giving me a headache. driving me to drink.

simple solution












f*** OFF no one likes you here

[FLAT_OUT]

They've only done it because if the appeal against Brawn goes against the team, Hami would inherit 1st place. Unthinkable that the FIA would allow Mclaren to benefit, even by the back door. Now wait and see Brawn GP excluded... it will happen.

Hey Andy, what drugs are you taking, metamphetamine?

[irons_4_ever]

i just read this on anohter forum

i atcually heard that the FIA find this matter so serious they may consider taking this to the World Motor Sport Council where further sanctions might be applied!!....

[Tony_sa]

yadda yadda yadda AKR talk. i like how you always have to bring nationality into s*** to justify the world in your mind "Trulli the Italian" given his third place back. Fact is he lost "his" third place when he went off track. But again the way you carry on just represents your mindset and knowledge of F1. Youre just a tribal fan youre not an F1 fan! go watch your football if you want to get tribal you nutter!!

At least I have a cultural identity. Yes I am Italian and I have a rich cultural Identity. What do you have, VBs and fish and chips?

And yes I am not a fan, I am a TIFOSA. Difference is that I go hardcore for my team and I support them like I do in football.

Oh you want to have a go at culture now huh! good work woggy well how about this

Youre a f***ing Slav youre not even Italian you have no identity youre lost in this world claiming to be something youre not!

Ok why do i get the feeling this is getting beyond personal ??.... I mean I always get the blame.... AKR .. I know you a much better person than this. let him go play in the field with the lambs. he needs to cool down... maybe a dip in the pigs trough will help ???

[bud]

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Hamilton loses points secured in Melbourne
Following the news today from Sepang that Jarno Trulli has had his third position in the Australian Grand Prix reinstated and that Lewis Hamilton has been excluded from the results, McLaren Mercedes this evening made the following statement:

"The FIA Stewards have reviewed their decision of Sunday 29th March 2009, and have excluded Vodafone McLaren Mercedes driver Lewis Hamilton from the results of the 2009 Australian Grand Prix."

"Vodafone McLaren Mercedes understands that the Stewards made their decision on the basis of reviewing radio transmissions between the driver and the Team.

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"The Team mistakenly believed that the radio transmissions had been reviewed by the FIA on Sunday 29th March 2009, and consequently did not believe it was necessary to discuss them with the Stewards on that date."

"Nonetheless, the Vodafone McLaren Mercedes Team now regrets that it did not do so, accepts the Stewards' decision and will not appeal."

[Tony_sa]

i just read this on anohter forum

i atcually heard that the FIA find this matter so serious they may consider taking this to the World Motor Sport Council where further sanctions might be applied!!....

Ya good. lets not include em for the rest of 09. at least it will give them a chance to sort out that crappy car and panelbeat that arrogant snotnose's attitude.

[FerrariFan63]

Youre a f***ing Slav youre not even Italian you have no identity youre lost in this world claiming to be something youre not!

Racism. How surprising.