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[avisekm]

No, that’s stupid! They will make racing more exciting?? why do they always do this? I’m finding F1 to be more annoying then enjoyable at the moment? I'm finding the whole diffuser debate to be a pain in my arse . I think they should all follow set rules and NOT break them. Next race I hope they are all running of the same system. Then it can go back to Hammy V Kimi I class Oz Gp to be a fluke. With all the debates that are happening I wouldn't count on anything until round 2.

What would you say were the help of the slick tyres....which were re-introduced.....did it make any kind of difference for Ferrari in the race???

[McLaren Fan]

No, that’s stupid! They will make racing more exciting?? why do they always do this? I’m finding F1 to be more annoying then enjoyable at the moment? I'm finding the whole diffuser debate to be a pain in my arse . I think they should all follow set rules and NOT break them. Next race I hope they are all running of the same system. Then it can go back to Hammy V Kimi I class Oz Gp to be a fluke. With all the debates that are happening I wouldn't count on anything until round 2.

The problem is that there are loopholes in the rules. Usually, that's down to carelessness by the FIA, but sometimes it's very difficult to close all of them. Brawn, Williams and Toyota were smart and the others missed the boat, in my view.

[avisekm]

No, that’s stupid! They will make racing more exciting?? why do they always do this? I’m finding F1 to be more annoying then enjoyable at the moment? I'm finding the whole diffuser debate to be a pain in my arse . I think they should all follow set rules and NOT break them. Next race I hope they are all running of the same system. Then it can go back to Hammy V Kimi I class Oz Gp to be a fluke. With all the debates that are happening I wouldn't count on anything until round 2.

The problem is that there are loopholes in the rules. Usually, that's down to carelessness by the FIA, but sometimes it's very difficult to close all of them. Brawn, Williams and Toyota were smart and the others missed the boat, in my view.

Why couln't Ferrari and McLaren bank on the loopholes of the new 2009 faulty rules....

[McLaren Fan]

They just weren't clever enough to spot them, and its nobody's fault but their own.

Rather than ban Brawn, Williams and Toyota's diffusers, the FIA should pass them as legal and then close the loophole for the 2010 season.

[Denthúl]

They just weren't clever enough to spot them, and its nobody's fault but their own.

Rather than ban Brawn, Williams and Toyota's diffusers, the FIA should pass them as legal and then close the loophole for the 2010 season.

Or just allow it to be legal in future. The cars did not seem to struggle following each other around the circuit today. There was plenty of overtaking to see, so they obviously aren't nearly half as disruptive as people like Flavio Briatore are claiming.

[Jamie]

True. I believe that the other teams should have to adopt the new diffusers to the Brawn's. More speed, which I prefer? But the first race should be classed a practice and the next race should be classed as the real race. Obviously not official but I don't think this race was much to go by on? Fantastic job and an enjoyable experience I must say. But a disappointment in my team.

[McLaren Fan]

They just weren't clever enough to spot them, and its nobody's fault but their own.

Rather than ban Brawn, Williams and Toyota's diffusers, the FIA should pass them as legal and then close the loophole for the 2010 season.

Or just allow it to be legal in future. The cars did not seem to struggle following each other around the circuit today. There was plenty of overtaking to see, so they obviously aren't nearly half as disruptive as people like Flavio Briatore are claiming.

I agree it's not as bad as Fraudster Flavio would have us all believe, but I think the diffusers were changed for a reason, so the loophole should be closed. Doing so would allow the cars to follow one each other even easier.

[Denthúl]

True. I believe that the other teams should have to adopt the new diffusers to the Brawn's. More speed, which I prefer? But the first race should be classed a practice and the next race should be classed as the real race. Obviously not official but I don't think this race was much to go by on? Fantastic job and an enjoyable experience I must say. But a disappointment in my team.

I don't think it is just the diffuser that accounts for all of Brawn's speed. The car is very well-designed. The low-nose, complex front wing, aggressively-shaped sidepods and very small holes in them all give the BGP 001 advantages in the speed area. The diffuser helps them create the necessary levels of rear grip in order to be able to push the car more.

They just weren't clever enough to spot them, and its nobody's fault but their own.

Rather than ban Brawn, Williams and Toyota's diffusers, the FIA should pass them as legal and then close the loophole for the 2010 season.

Or just allow it to be legal in future. The cars did not seem to struggle following each other around the circuit today. There was plenty of overtaking to see, so they obviously aren't nearly half as disruptive as people like Flavio Briatore are claiming.

I agree it's not as bad as Fraudster Flavio would have us all believe, but I think the diffusers were changed for a reason, so the loophole should be closed. Doing so would allow the cars to follow one each other even easier.

True, and from a "spirit of the rules" angle, that is correct.

[Frosty]

Apparently it is quite hard to overtake a KERS car

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 970602.stm

[Jamie]

I think that the diffusers should all be base on the same system. Hopefully by next race all the disputes can be stopped and we can have a peaceful weekend with fair racing on our TV sets the lack of sleep has made me cranky

[Denthúl]

Apparently it is quite hard to overtake a KERS car

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 970602.stm

Interesting that the Toyota was good on the soft tyres whilst others were really struggling.

[bmwpower]

BMW was happy with KERS in Australia, but not with the result. Dr. Theissen and Heidfeld said after the first corner incident leaving him with a badly damaged car, Heidfeld used KERS to keep a couple of drivers behind him throughout the race.

[McLaren Fan]

Apparently it is quite hard to overtake a KERS car

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 970602.stm

It's not the fault of the team who did use KERS today that Toyota's own engineers couldn't get it sorted for today's race.

[FerrariFan63]

Or just allow it to be legal in future. The cars did not seem to struggle following each other around the circuit today. There was plenty of overtaking to see, so they obviously aren't nearly half as disruptive as people like Flavio Briatore are claiming.

The problem here is that there hasn't been enough discussion, that I've seen, concerning whether or not the diffuser really should be legal, given an objective reading of the rules. If the loophole is valid, then they should be allowed. But if an objective reading of the rules shows that the diffusers have been wrongly allowed, then that's an entirely different viewpoint altogether. I'm not commenting on whether the diffusers should or should not be allowed as I feel that I haven't investigated the regulations and solutions to really know what the true case is. And I see lots of posts (not yours Denthúl) where people seem to apply quite spurious reasons for claiming that the diffusers should be legal or not.

The fault is with the FIA in my opinion, in either case. I do not accept that rules can't be written without all these loopholes in them. And I'm unconvinced that the "legality" decisions coming from the FIA and Charlie Whiting are always sensible. In that environment, the teams MUST try to exploit loopholes or be left behind by those teams that do.

[EwanM]

They just weren't clever enough to spot them, and its nobody's fault but their own.

Rather than ban Brawn, Williams and Toyota's diffusers, the FIA should pass them as legal and then close the loophole for the 2010 season.

I think it is more likely the FIA will declare the diffusers legal, the other teams will thus copy them.