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[texasmr2]

Mclaren is also a very very strong brand who hasn't heard of them?

Alot of people actually when compared to Ferrari. There is really no comparison between the two in term's of global brand recognition, Ferrari win's hand's down in that. I'm not disssing McLaren or supporting Ferrari in my comment only stating the obvious.

[onelapdown]

Ron Dennis is not stupid and is concerned with the survival of the McLaren name. If Mercedes to completely buy over McLaren, Dennis will see to it that McLaren must in the name of the team at the very least, similar to how BMW-Sauber operates. It's also worth pointing out that Daimler own Mercedes and Mercedes' name remains. Mercedes have bought over companies such as AMG and their name remains. It is not a given, therefore, that the McLaren name will eventually disappear.

That's what I was saying: similar to BMW Sauber >>> Mercedes McLaren.
On the other hand, you will never find a name in front (or afterwards) of Ferrari. It is too strong a brand. Its worldwide brand recognition is up there with Coca Cola, McDonald's, Nike, Microsoft, Disney, Apple, Google, etc.

Mclaren is also a very very strong brand who hasn't heard of them as the F1 team and the creators of the words fastest of the 90's early 00s the Mclaren F1

Sauber though is not a strong brand and only people who are fans of F1 would know of them.

Yeah there's a difference between the two. If you want to say BMW Sauber quickly and drop one word, you'd say BMW. With McLaren Mercedes, you'd never just say Mercedes, so Mclaren's brand is much, much stronger. I think long-term Mercedes would want to keep the McLaren brand as it's highest performance brand, a kind of super-AMG, and those you think they'd drop the McLaren name should remember they started out as Daimler Benz, with Mercedes being little more than an informal nickname for the racing division, named after the daughter of a racing driver, until it caught on and was adopted as the company name in the 20s.

[Denthúl]

The difference being of course, that Mercedes are just shareholders of McLaren and provide the team's engines. Ferrari, however, are owned outright by FIAT and are only successfully because of FIAT's cash. If FIAT stopped supping Ferrari, their success rate would drop like a lead balloon.

We're talking about the scenario when Mercedes buys out McLaren down the road, so your comparison doesn't apply.

I think in the end it'll be similar to how BMW and Sauber handled it.

What Scenario is this.

your talking as if its going to happen.

its not.

You doubt it's going to happen in the future? And BTW I didn't bring it up, it was bud...

No it won't happen

1. Like Mclaren Fan says there's other parties involved so it would be very very expensive and difficult
2. They have enough brand precence from the team as it is.
3. What benifit would they gain from it? they won't rename Mclaren to Mercades so and creating their own team wouldn't give results as good as Mclaren have been getting.

You can't say that.

There will always be advantages to Mercedes buying McLaren, as well as disadvantages.

tell me the advantages?

They will have more influence in what happens in the team, they can take more of the credit for any success (although, take more of the flak for any failure) and be free to appoint their own personnel.

I know full-well that that most likely hasn't answered the question in the way that you were expecting, but then your question was more than likely not asking from the same angle as my comment was coming from.

[nudge1964]

I don't think we can read too much into McLaren's diversification. It's not a recent thing. You've no doubt heard of the McLaren Group, formerly known as McLaren International. It is made up of an electronics and software company etc., which were established decades ago. .

just to correct you there...the group wasnt formally known as Mclaren International. The Groups original name was TAG Mclaren (Holdings), with Mclaren International being the company which was the F1 racing team. The F1 race team changed its name from Mclaren International to Mclaren Racing when the group was rebranded about the time that West became title sponsors

[AKR]

Ron Dennis is not stupid and is concerned with the survival of the McLaren name. If Mercedes to completely buy over McLaren, Dennis will see to it that McLaren must in the name of the team at the very least, similar to how BMW-Sauber operates. It's also worth pointing out that Daimler own Mercedes and Mercedes' name remains. Mercedes have bought over companies such as AMG and their name remains. It is not a given, therefore, that the McLaren name will eventually disappear.

Regardless on how it is handled, get used to the Lied Von Deutschland.

[onelapdown]

Ron Dennis is not stupid and is concerned with the survival of the McLaren name. If Mercedes to completely buy over McLaren, Dennis will see to it that McLaren must in the name of the team at the very least, similar to how BMW-Sauber operates. It's also worth pointing out that Daimler own Mercedes and Mercedes' name remains. Mercedes have bought over companies such as AMG and their name remains. It is not a given, therefore, that the McLaren name will eventually disappear.

Regardless on how it is handled, get used to the Lied Von Deutschland.

I doubt it, the car's British made, the engine's British made, and I really don't see why Mercedes would change the name or identity of the team, but even supposing, as long as Deutchland Uber Alles is preceded by God Save The Queen for Hamilton I shan't be too bothered...

[AKR]

Ron Dennis is not stupid and is concerned with the survival of the McLaren name. If Mercedes to completely buy over McLaren, Dennis will see to it that McLaren must in the name of the team at the very least, similar to how BMW-Sauber operates. It's also worth pointing out that Daimler own Mercedes and Mercedes' name remains. Mercedes have bought over companies such as AMG and their name remains. It is not a given, therefore, that the McLaren name will eventually disappear.

Regardless on how it is handled, get used to the Lied Von Deutschland.

I doubt it, the car's British made, the engine's British made, and I really don't see why Mercedes would change the name or identity of the team, but even supposing, as long as Deutchland Uber Alles is preceded by God Save The Queen for Hamilton I shan't be too bothered...

Really. Dream on. Renault also made in Great Britain. And which anthem do we hear when they win. The French one. So deal with it................. And when a non British driver wins for Mercedes once know as McLaren it will be the drivers anthem followered by the German one so once again, deal with it.

[bud]

AKR right now and until if otherwise, McLaren is British! so you Deal with it

[AKR]

AKR right now and until if otherwise, McLaren is British! so you Deal with it

I couldn't care less. For all I care they can be Slovenian as well. In the end McLaren are still rubbish.

[bud]

AKR right now and until if otherwise, McLaren is British! so you Deal with it

I couldn't care less. For all I care they can be Slovenian as well. In the end McLaren are still rubbish.

someone who is trash calling another rubbish how ironic

[AKR]

AKR right now and until if otherwise, McLaren is British! so you Deal with it

I couldn't care less. For all I care they can be Slovenian as well. In the end McLaren are still rubbish.

someone who is trash calling another rubbish how ironic

Are you saying that Slovenes are trash? Now unless you want a kick in the head I hope I understood incorrectly!

[bud]

AKR right now and until if otherwise, McLaren is British! so you Deal with it

I couldn't care less. For all I care they can be Slovenian as well. In the end McLaren are still rubbish.

someone who is trash calling another rubbish how ironic

Are you saying that Slovenes are trash? Now unless you want a kick in the head I hope I understood incorrectly!

i will block your kick with my kempo skills so try it

[AKR]

AKR right now and until if otherwise, McLaren is British! so you Deal with it

I couldn't care less. For all I care they can be Slovenian as well. In the end McLaren are still rubbish.

someone who is trash calling another rubbish how ironic

Are you saying that Slovenes are trash? Now unless you want a kick in the head I hope I understood incorrectly!

i will block your kick with my kempo skills so try it

What Kempo skills. I am a 2nd Dan in Aikido and have also weapons training and better than Kempo skills. I have Dim Mak so bring it on. Say anything bad about Slovenes or Italians and you wont even know the difference between a Ferrari or McLaren afterwards.

[AKR]

Read this.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/leif.snellman/intro.htm

It is all German as far as Mercedes-Mclaren is concerned. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA At least Alfa Romeo was raced by Scuderia Ferrari which is what Ferrari is called now.

[bud]

AKR right now and until if otherwise, McLaren is British! so you Deal with it

I couldn't care less. For all I care they can be Slovenian as well. In the end McLaren are still rubbish.

someone who is trash calling another rubbish how ironic

Are you saying that Slovenes are trash? Now unless you want a kick in the head I hope I understood incorrectly!

i will block your kick with my kempo skills so try it

What Kempo skills. I am a 2nd Dan in Aikido and have also weapons training and better than Kempo skills. I have Dim Mak so bring it on. Say anything bad about Slovenes or Italians and you wont even know the difference between a Ferrari or McLaren afterwards.

hmmm dunno if getting physical with you is a good idea