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[jackarse]

Not nearly as, to be honest. His car is fundamentally better in the wet conditions and since the Ferrari struggles to get heat into its tyres in the dry then it was always going to have an advantage. Yes, Lewis was gingerly making his way around the track, but he was still doing it faster than Raikkonen and doing a better job of it because his equipment permitted it.

That is selective memory . Hamilton span only yards away from where Kimi crashed. It was not until Kimi was out of the race when Hami starting making his way round 'gingerly'.

[Denthúl]

Not nearly as, to be honest. His car is fundamentally better in the wet conditions and since the Ferrari struggles to get heat into its tyres in the dry then it was always going to have an advantage. Yes, Lewis was gingerly making his way around the track, but he was still doing it faster than Raikkonen and doing a better job of it because his equipment permitted it.

That is selective memory . Hamilton span only yards away from where Kimi crashed. It was not until Kimi was out of the race when Hami starting making his way round 'gingerly'.

I fully recall Hamilton's spin. But I also recall how he was able to close up on Kimi the way that he did when the rain started to fall. Had Kimi been able to manage that pace safely in the wet, then he wouldn't have come under any pressure in the first place.

[jackarse]

I fully recall Hamilton's spin. But I also recall how he was able to close up on Kimi the way that he did when the rain started to fall. Had Kimi been able to manage that pace safely in the wet, then he wouldn't have come under any pressure in the first place.

Hamiltons speed was better in the rain - no doubt and I haven't even denied that. However his handling wasn't. If he didn't cut the chicane god knows what could of occured if Hamilton had to pass Kimi fairly.

[Rorschach]

Kimi span it a few seconds later anyway and DNF'd of his accord. But whatever, it's history now.

[Denthúl]

I fully recall Hamilton's spin. But I also recall how he was able to close up on Kimi the way that he did when the rain started to fall. Had Kimi been able to manage that pace safely in the wet, then he wouldn't have come under any pressure in the first place.

Hamiltons speed was better in the rain - no doubt and I haven't even denied that. However his handling wasn't. If he didn't cut the chicane god knows what could of occured if Hamilton had to pass Kimi fairly.

He would probably have gotten past, as evidenced at the next corner.

[jackarse]

He would probably have gotten past, as evidenced at the next corner.

Yes but with the weather conditions as they were how do you know what could of happened when overtaking Kimi fairly.

[Denthúl]

He would probably have gotten past, as evidenced at the next corner.

Yes but with the weather conditions as they were how do you know what could of happened when overtaking Kimi fairly.

Well, for starters, I saw it happen. I'd say that's a fairly good point to base my opinion on, to be honest. There was nothing unfair about Hamilton's move after he relinquished the lead to Raikkonen. He did everything that was asked of him and then proceeded to put on a stellar display of driving to overtake Raikkonen anyway. I'm not a fan of Hamilton and I think his comments afterwards were absolutely ridiculous (accusing Kimi of having "no balls" and pretty much stating his opinion as fact when he said that "Kimi had the same amount of grip" when everybody knows that the Ferrari, in those conditions, does not) but his driving was fair and was superb in those closing laps.

[prozac26]

Well, as long as Kubica wins...

But that's seriously the state it's getting to. With all these ridiculous decisions, Mosley's Nazi scandal and the new standard engine tender, there's plenty of reason for certain teams to instigate a mass-withdrawal from the sport and set up a new series with a real governing body.

I like Kubica. I really hope BMW give him the engine and car he deserves next season. Alonso in a strong Renault would also be great. Ferrari, LH, Kubica and Alonso really going at it next season for the championship.

As for this standard engine thingybob - it's gotta be a bluff from the FIA right? It's just gotta be...

I think BMW will push harder next year, since they didn't push as hard as they could this year.

I think Kubica is the driver to look out for, he can steal valuable points from contenders like Hamilton, Massa, Kimi etc.

[prozac26]

I also like Renault for next year. Their development during the closing part of the season has been fun to watch, and next year will be interesting, since I hope we have 4 teams that can have true contenders.

[scousers on tour 2008]

Whichever punishments KR or LH might deserve I guess. I dunno, it's possible - just like every race but I don't think KR would intentionally tangle with LH to ensure Massa wins the title, if that's the underlying meaning here?.

Let's say the worst does happen and KR deliberately, and without subtlety, rams LH off the track and then does a little jig in celebration - I dunno. Very hard time proving he was ordered to by the team and even if it were proven I don't think it could be applied to Massa in any way so Massa would be the WDC should he finish the race with enough points. Any punishment that is meted out probably wouldn't do LH much good in terms of this year's WDC. Unless drastic and unprecedented sanctions are levelled at Ferrari.

kimi would not deliberately hit hamilton i think he is to honest to do that like wise with hamilton if it was the other way around. although it has been done in the past by someone in a redish car (my hero in f1)

[cba_]

I hope alonso could maybe brake later or do like what he did in Bahrain

[bud]

the FIA will give him a 1 million Euro bonus

[IceManpjn]

If Kimi clashes with Hami in Brazil...

What are the possible punishments that can be given? Thanks in advance.

So..., I'm not the only one that has considered this?

I'm afraid that, should Kimi (or Alonso or anybody else willing to sabotage Hamilton) deliberately send Hamilton to the garage, I don't see anything that can be done to set it right. All Hamilton needs to do, even if Massa wins the race in Brazil, is finish fifth and he'll still win the championship. Hamilton is more than capable of it, unless someone "accidentally" wrecks him out. Then Massa wins the championship and the FiA pretends he earned it.

[Davf126]

maybe give it a good spank!

[Davf126]

or shoot them all