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By deMuRe
#22478
"Turning the whole team on his side (being Britton and all that?)"
Schumacher was German. He was the master at this.


Yes, he did, but he did this with results behind him in a non front running car.

Lewis is a rookie sensation, and I hope he goes on and fills the void Schumacher left behind, but until he gets a couple of WC's under his belt and/or gets results in a non front running car he wont have complete respect from all F1 fans.

I would like to see Lewis win a couple of WC's with McLaren and then move to a team like Red Bull or Renault and do it all over again.

It's all pure speculation as the poor lad hasn't had a chance to find his feet peacefully.


what are you talking about Schumi winning titles in a non front running car?


The Bennetton wasn't the class of the field. Schumacher brought with him "a way of working" to quote from the horses mouth. The teams gave it to him because they knew they could rely on him.

What Schumacher had was the envy of every driver up and down the pitlane, JV tried to emulate it but he didn't have the minerals.


The Bennetton wasnt a slouch either, i mean if Schumacher was so much better than the cars he drove then he should have had no issues what so ever with the problems Ferrari had in 2005

i think some Schumacher Sheep should come back down to earth


Why should we come back down to earth bud? Because it upsets you? I think you need to get off you're farking high horse mate. Jesus I hope Hamilton wins next season just so the chip on your shoulder, the size of Bermuda, isn't there anymore.

Schumacher was the greatest driver of all time, nobody will ever beat him, he won countless races he shouldn't and kept us on the edge of our seats for so many races.

I'll be telling my grandkids I was alive to see Schumacher race in the flesh.

I know you don't like him Bud, that's understandable, but you need to respect those that do and realise there are many reason's why there are so many Schumacher "Sheep." We are "Sheep" for a reason, he was and will always be the best...
By Mikep99
#22479
Well I do like arguing - it's certainly preferable to hearing nothing but "wait and see" between now and March... :)


I usually argue for 5 or 6 post's then I come out with the "wait and see"
If your still trying to make your point after 5 or 6 it's not as if your going to convice them is it. :idea:
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By racechick
#22481
Schumi was afraid of fast team mates and he played dirty too often therefore he can be eclipsed by someone who matches his achievements without resorting to those tactics.
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By deMuRe
#22482
Schumi was afraid of fast team mates and he played dirty too often therefore he can be eclipsed by someone who matches his achievements without resorting to those tactics.


He beat his competitors that had better machinery then him so why would he be afraid of someone with the same machinery?

That statement is complete nonsense, Schumi demanded to be the number 1 driver is all, it's organised and avoids the kind of embarassing situations at McLaren last year.

Ron Dennis could take a leaf out of Schumacher's book.
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By racechick
#22483
He had a superior car for many of his champioship victories and no competitive teammate, he was also allowed to get away with far too much dirty play. I grant you he was exciting to watch when he first started and was up against Ayrton but he became boring to watch. If Ayrton had lived, Schumi's foul play punished or acompetitive team mate alongside him the record book would look very different.
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By onelapdown
#22484
Why should we come back down to earth bud? Because it upsets you? I think you need to get off you're farking high horse mate. Jesus I hope Hamilton wins next season just so the chip on your shoulder, the size of Bermuda, isn't there anymore.

Schumacher was the greatest driver of all time, nobody will ever beat him, he won countless races he shouldn't and kept us on the edge of our seats for so many races.

I'll be telling my grandkids I was alive to see Schumacher race in the flesh.

I know you don't like him Bud, that's understandable, but you need to respect those that do and realise there are many reason's why there are so many Schumacher "Sheep." We are "Sheep" for a reason, he was and will always be the best...


And I'll be telling my grandchildren I saw Schumacher spin off in the wet at Silverstone in 2001...

I really think Schumacher will never quite top certain drivers because he was just too nondescript out of the car, and even if he was hard to beat he never had the aura of a deity like Senna, Clark and Fangio had.
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By 737flier
#22485
Schumi was afraid of fast team mates and he played dirty too often therefore he can be eclipsed by someone who matches his achievements without resorting to those tactics.


He beat his competitors that had better machinery then him so why would he be afraid of someone with the same machinery?

That statement is complete nonsense, Schumi demanded to be the number 1 driver is all, it's organised and avoids the kind of embarassing situations at McLaren last year.

Ron Dennis could take a leaf out of Schumacher's book.


except that team orders are supposed to be illegal.....
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By bud
#22492

Why should we come back down to earth bud? Because it upsets you? I think you need to get off you're farking high horse mate. Jesus I hope Hamilton wins next season just so the chip on your shoulder, the size of Bermuda, isn't there anymore.

Schumacher was the greatest driver of all time, nobody will ever beat him, he won countless races he shouldn't and kept us on the edge of our seats for so many races.

I'll be telling my grandkids I was alive to see Schumacher race in the flesh.

I know you don't like him Bud, that's understandable, but you need to respect those that do and realise there are many reason's why there are so many Schumacher "Sheep." We are "Sheep" for a reason, he was and will always be the best...


how can i be on a high horse when im saying you should come back down to earth with me dude ;) Schumi was fast no doubt, best ever undeniable? thats an insult to every other F1 fan!from many eras!
But hey you can worship who ever the f*** you like but there aint no god! same goes for schumacher!
And ill be telling my grand kids the day i saw in the flesh schumachers first title! and how he got it! what a champion!!!!


i know why there are so many sheep! they are called bandwagon supporters!

He beat his competitors that had better machinery then him so why would he be afraid of someone with the same machinery?

That statement is complete nonsense, Schumi demanded to be the number 1 driver is all, it's organised and avoids the kind of embarassing situations at McLaren last year.

Ron Dennis could take a leaf out of Schumacher's book.


better machinery? haha :lol: where was his superior extraordinary ability to win in recent memory of 05? and why would he be afraid of beating anyone in the SAME machinery?

demure you sheep like to bhaa alot but you take the cake 8)
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By Woodchip
#22494
And I'll be able to say that I saw Shumacher break his leg (in the flesh so tp speak) in '99 with a glint in my eye.

Schumacher done for F1 what Alonso done for F1 in Spain and Lewis is doing at the moment in the UK (and possibly some Afro-caribbean nations - a la Tiger Woods).
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By 7UpJordan
#22546
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 076956.stm

Patrick Head puts a "hands off" warning for McLaren on Rosberg. And also Head puts in a cheeky remark about Schumi being Hamilton's teammate, he's a genius! :D
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By nikon133
#22554
The piquet family are w**kers - jr. is a highly strung little git and would be a carbon copy of Alonso. I remember his dad whining when Frank Williams refused to tell Mansell to slow down in order for Piquet to win.

Nope - Jr. would be a baaaaaaad choice.


Well, I remember LH whining this season as well. So what? If they can give good fight - like Prost and Senna did (or Mansell and Piquet Snr.) let them whine much as they want. Anyway, RD could put in their contracts that any publicly exposed hostility (in press) toward teammate will bring down penalties on driver. Kick their wallets and they'll behave.
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By deMuRe
#22556

Why should we come back down to earth bud? Because it upsets you? I think you need to get off you're farking high horse mate. Jesus I hope Hamilton wins next season just so the chip on your shoulder, the size of Bermuda, isn't there anymore.

Schumacher was the greatest driver of all time, nobody will ever beat him, he won countless races he shouldn't and kept us on the edge of our seats for so many races.

I'll be telling my grandkids I was alive to see Schumacher race in the flesh.

I know you don't like him Bud, that's understandable, but you need to respect those that do and realise there are many reason's why there are so many Schumacher "Sheep." We are "Sheep" for a reason, he was and will always be the best...


how can i be on a high horse when im saying you should come back down to earth with me dude ;) Schumi was fast no doubt, best ever undeniable? thats an insult to every other F1 fan!from many eras!
But hey you can worship who ever the f*** you like but there aint no god! same goes for schumacher!
And ill be telling my grand kids the day i saw in the flesh schumachers first title! and how he got it! what a champion!!!!


i know why there are so many sheep! they are called bandwagon supporters!

He beat his competitors that had better machinery then him so why would he be afraid of someone with the same machinery?

That statement is complete nonsense, Schumi demanded to be the number 1 driver is all, it's organised and avoids the kind of embarassing situations at McLaren last year.

Ron Dennis could take a leaf out of Schumacher's book.


better machinery? haha :lol: where was his superior extraordinary ability to win in recent memory of 05? and why would he be afraid of beating anyone in the SAME machinery?

demure you sheep like to bhaa alot but you take the cake 8)


You amuse me bud, all you Schumacher anti's can do is nit pick at his mistakes.

Forget all the other drives that wowed the entire F1 fraternity, just focus on the bad ones, because that makes you feel better...

I'm glad he has had such an effect on you, you are not alone.
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By 7UpJordan
#22563
I'll admit I'm not Schumacher's greatest fan, but there have been some pretty even worse drivers than him when it comes to "mistakes". One that springs to my immediate mind is the mardy Swiss driver Gregor Foitek who was responsible for the F3000 crash at Brands Hatch that shattered Johnny Herbert's legs in 1988. Foitek also injured Herbert earlier on that year by pushing him off track and concussing him.

How he got an F1 drive with that display of unsportsmanship we'll never know... probably something to do with the fact that the team he drove for in 1989 was the half-Swiss pre-qualifying specialists Eurobrun.
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By bud
#22617

Why should we come back down to earth bud? Because it upsets you? I think you need to get off you're farking high horse mate. Jesus I hope Hamilton wins next season just so the chip on your shoulder, the size of Bermuda, isn't there anymore.

Schumacher was the greatest driver of all time, nobody will ever beat him, he won countless races he shouldn't and kept us on the edge of our seats for so many races.

I'll be telling my grandkids I was alive to see Schumacher race in the flesh.

I know you don't like him Bud, that's understandable, but you need to respect those that do and realise there are many reason's why there are so many Schumacher "Sheep." We are "Sheep" for a reason, he was and will always be the best...



how can i be on a high horse when im saying you should come back down to earth with me dude ;) Schumi was fast no doubt, best ever undeniable? thats an insult to every other F1 fan!from many eras!
But hey you can worship who ever the f*** you like but there aint no god! same goes for schumacher!
And ill be telling my grand kids the day i saw in the flesh schumachers first title! and how he got it! what a champion!!!!


i know why there are so many sheep! they are called bandwagon supporters!

He beat his competitors that had better machinery then him so why would he be afraid of someone with the same machinery?

That statement is complete nonsense, Schumi demanded to be the number 1 driver is all, it's organised and avoids the kind of embarassing situations at McLaren last year.

Ron Dennis could take a leaf out of Schumacher's book.


better machinery? haha :lol: where was his superior extraordinary ability to win in recent memory of 05? and why would he be afraid of beating anyone in the SAME machinery?

demure you sheep like to bhaa alot but you take the cake 8)


You amuse me bud, all you Schumacher anti's can do is nit pick at his mistakes.

Forget all the other drives that wowed the entire F1 fraternity, just focus on the bad ones, because that makes you feel better...

I'm glad he has had such an effect on you, you are not alone.


Im not nit picking at his mistakes?? where? unless you call failing to have a fast team mate to measure by a mistake? im nit picking at what youre putting on the table! and thats weak right there!
You said he won a title in a lesser car and i put forward where was his abilities in 05 and i woulndt really call the F248 a dog where was his title win there?

i think you Schumi sheep just have him too far up your bottom you forget he is just a human and there was better!
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By deMuRe
#22658

Why should we come back down to earth bud? Because it upsets you? I think you need to get off you're farking high horse mate. Jesus I hope Hamilton wins next season just so the chip on your shoulder, the size of Bermuda, isn't there anymore.

Schumacher was the greatest driver of all time, nobody will ever beat him, he won countless races he shouldn't and kept us on the edge of our seats for so many races.

I'll be telling my grandkids I was alive to see Schumacher race in the flesh.

I know you don't like him Bud, that's understandable, but you need to respect those that do and realise there are many reason's why there are so many Schumacher "Sheep." We are "Sheep" for a reason, he was and will always be the best...


He may not have been the fastest driver over a single lap, but he won more races in the history of the sport then anyone else, why is that so bud?

He was a team leader, he was aggressive, he was a hard worker, he kept hismself fit, he was an egotistical maniac, he demanded the team worked for him and him alone, he bent every rule, he was mentally strong, he never blamed the team, oh and he wasn't a slouch behind the wheel either.

He was the most "complete" driver there ever was, being fast behind the wheel isn't enough anymore in modern day F1.

I'm not blind or stupid but yes I'll admit I was one of his disciples, for very good reason.

He made me laugh, cry, happy, mad, jump out of my seat and spill my beer, want to throw the remote at the telly, embarassed to be his supporter, proud to be his supporter, forced too much money out of my wallet on merchandise...

What more do you want from a race driver?


how can i be on a high horse when im saying you should come back down to earth with me dude ;) Schumi was fast no doubt, best ever undeniable? thats an insult to every other F1 fan!from many eras!
But hey you can worship who ever the f*** you like but there aint no god! same goes for schumacher!
And ill be telling my grand kids the day i saw in the flesh schumachers first title! and how he got it! what a champion!!!!


i know why there are so many sheep! they are called bandwagon supporters!

He beat his competitors that had better machinery then him so why would he be afraid of someone with the same machinery?

That statement is complete nonsense, Schumi demanded to be the number 1 driver is all, it's organised and avoids the kind of embarassing situations at McLaren last year.

Ron Dennis could take a leaf out of Schumacher's book.


better machinery? haha :lol: where was his superior extraordinary ability to win in recent memory of 05? and why would he be afraid of beating anyone in the SAME machinery?

demure you sheep like to bhaa alot but you take the cake 8)


You amuse me bud, all you Schumacher anti's can do is nit pick at his mistakes.

Forget all the other drives that wowed the entire F1 fraternity, just focus on the bad ones, because that makes you feel better...

I'm glad he has had such an effect on you, you are not alone.


Im not nit picking at his mistakes?? where? unless you call failing to have a fast team mate to measure by a mistake? im nit picking at what youre putting on the table! and thats weak right there!
You said he won a title in a lesser car and i put forward where was his abilities in 05 and i woulndt really call the F248 a dog where was his title win there?

i think you Schumi sheep just have him too far up your bottom you forget he is just a human and there was better!

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