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Sadly,money always talks and Bernie wont stop comparing Turkey to richer countries.
F1 is a business that can't be subsidizing an unpopular sport. Turkey only gets around 36,000 fans for the whole weekend, hardly enough to pay for the celebritory champagne. If the Turks won't support F1 why should anyone else support F1 for them?
F1 is a business that can't be subsidizing an unpopular sport. Turkey only gets around 36,000 fans for the whole weekend, hardly enough to pay for the celebritory champagne. If the Turks won't support F1 why should anyone else support F1 for them?
surely more than that
F1 is a business that can't be subsidizing an unpopular sport. Turkey only gets around 36,000 fans for the whole weekend, hardly enough to pay for the celebritory champagne. If the Turks won't support F1 why should anyone else support F1 for them?
surely more than that
Sadly,money always talks and Bernie wont stop comparing Turkey to richer countries.
Simple solution. Get more folk to go, make the event more finacially viable and the race will be saved. Hardly MrE's fault at all.
F1 is a business that can't be subsidizing an unpopular sport. Turkey only gets around 36,000 fans for the whole weekend, hardly enough to pay for the celebritory champagne. If the Turks won't support F1 why should anyone else support F1 for them?
Sadly,money always talks and Bernie wont stop comparing Turkey to richer countries.
Simple solution. Get more folk to go, make the event more finacially viable and the race will be saved. Hardly MrE's fault at all.
I never say this is ALL Ecclestone's fault.Some fans here make me mad because they do support F1,they do have enough money but they say:'I can watch it on TV,if i go to istanbul park i cant see majority of the race,plus the traffic and hot weather.And i am going to pay for that!' I cant understand them.But also there are people with not much money but they collect some for going to that race.I have met many of them.
People in charge of this dont make so many ads that may be another reason too.If Turkish GP was going to stay i would persuade my f1 follower friends to come and i would complain to this people in charge of the organization about the ads.But unfortunately theres no use of doing thisF1 is a business that can't be subsidizing an unpopular sport. Turkey only gets around 36,000 fans for the whole weekend, hardly enough to pay for the celebritory champagne. If the Turks won't support F1 why should anyone else support F1 for them?
No,actually there where more than 150,000 people this year.This was reported.But still not enough,some people cant afford the accommadation and flight pay because most fans live away from Istanbul.
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You make a good point. I believe the locations where motorsport has a very rich history will do very well. What Bernie is doing, which does have good intentions (spreading F1 to other countries) but also carries huge cons - is to take F1 where money is, unfortunately, where there's money doesn't mean there is rich racing heritage.
Myself for example, I attended the Msian GP thrice..and I'll never go again. Simply put, 1st time I went for the experience, 2nd I had great tickets for the grandstand (experience), 3rd, I was just bored and missed by TV. You don't get the whole 'story' of the race by going to the GP, and I will never attend the Msian GP again. Other countries, lets say where there's rich heritage like Italy, GB, Monaco, hell yeah! (again for experience)
New circuits are like cars, they 'depreciate' after a while. When racing isn't embedded in the culture of the people, they don't see the point to go for a while. I love racing, but seriously...the people at the race track are boring corporate clowns who attend for the sake of attending. The best people are on the hills - not much money, but plenty of passion. However, locals do get bored after a while...most races especially in Asia will have to depend on new target markets - and they aren't easy to find.
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You make a good point. I believe the locations where motorsport has a very rich history will do very well. What Bernie is doing, which does have good intentions (spreading F1 to other countries) but also carries huge cons - is to take F1 where money is, unfortunately, where there's money doesn't mean there is rich racing heritage.
Myself for example, I attended the Msian GP thrice..and I'll never go again. Simply put, 1st time I went for the experience, 2nd I had great tickets for the grandstand (experience), 3rd, I was just bored and missed by TV. You don't get the whole 'story' of the race by going to the GP, and I will never attend the Msian GP again. Other countries, lets say where there's rich heritage like Italy, GB, Monaco, hell yeah! (again for experience)
New circuits are like cars, they 'depreciate' after a while. When racing isn't embedded in the culture of the people, they don't see the point to go for a while. I love racing, but seriously...the people at the race track are boring corporate clowns who attend for the sake of attending. The best people are on the hills - not much money, but plenty of passion. However, locals do get bored after a while...most races especially in Asia will have to depend on new target markets - and they aren't easy to find.
Turkey has rich history but Bernie wants money more!If we did loads of ads however ,the tourists coming to see the historical places would attend.Its right that you dont get the story by going to a GP for example when i went to the GP this year i got nothing except the amount of pit stops,next day my friend explained me.
That was a right point bout racing culture.Its new in Turkey we never had racers thats such new so it takes a while to raise the interest.For example i am almost 16 ,people at my age sometimes follow but my sister is 9 and her mates follow it more because they are raised with that culture.
I went to watch the GP on the main grandstand and it was full-why didnt they put these places on TV anyway?!- and people there had passion but there were less people with intense passion than the ones on the hills or the stands with lower prices.However everyone was shouting when Webber overtook Alonso.
And if any of you guys would like to help us, can you give your name here it is just a help for Turkish GP.We tried this way for bringing Senna Movie to Turkey and it worked! :
http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/f1turkiye
Turkey has rich history but Bernie wants money more!If we did loads of ads however ,the tourists coming to see the historical places would attend.Its right that you dont get the story by going to a GP for example when i went to the GP this year i got nothing except the amount of pit stops,next day my friend explained me.
That was a right point bout racing culture.Its new in Turkey we never had racers thats such new so it takes a while to raise the interest.For example i am almost 16 ,people at my age sometimes follow but my sister is 9 and her mates follow it more because they are raised with that culture.
I went to watch the GP on the main grandstand and it was full-why didnt they put these places on TV anyway?!- and people there had passion but there were less people with intense passion than the ones on the hills or the stands with lower prices.However everyone was shouting when Webber overtook Alonso.
And if any of you guys would like to help us, can you give your name here it is just a help for Turkish GP.We tried this way for bringing Senna Movie to Turkey and it worked! :
http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/f1turkiye
Turkey has rich history but Bernie wants money more!If we did loads of ads however ,the tourists coming to see the historical places would attend.Its right that you dont get the story by going to a GP for example when i went to the GP this year i got nothing except the amount of pit stops,next day my friend explained me.
That was a right point bout racing culture.Its new in Turkey we never had racers thats such new so it takes a while to raise the interest.For example i am almost 16 ,people at my age sometimes follow but my sister is 9 and her mates follow it more because they are raised with that culture.
I went to watch the GP on the main grandstand and it was full-why didnt they put these places on TV anyway?!- and people there had passion but there were less people with intense passion than the ones on the hills or the stands with lower prices.However everyone was shouting when Webber overtook Alonso.
And if any of you guys would like to help us, can you give your name here it is just a help for Turkish GP.We tried this way for bringing Senna Movie to Turkey and it worked! :
http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/f1turkiye
The track is a loss leader. There is no place for loss leaders on the calander. That is the simple decision for MrE to make. If he was to keep a loss leader on the calander, especially when there are more deserving tracks that are screaming out for a GP, then he wouldn't be doing his job and wouldn't be generating the return demanded by CVC's investors. It's a pretty simple way that this works.
Let's face it, Istanbul Park is hardly a classic. It's not up there with Spa Francorchamps, Suzuka, Imola, A1 Ring, Monza or Magny Cours (to name a few of excellent circuits that I can remember seeing F1 race at). If it was to go, I would imagine that very few would lament its loss. Sure there is turn 8 but we can get our fix of corners like this at Spa and Suzuka.
The solution is simple though. If Turkey want to keep their F1 race then they better start going, no amount of petitioning is going to outweigh the financial aspect of the race. Simple as that. Sure it's expensive but the prices are probably the lowest they can be given the number of parties who get a slice of the race revenue.
Turkey has rich history but Bernie wants money more!If we did loads of ads however ,the tourists coming to see the historical places would attend.Its right that you dont get the story by going to a GP for example when i went to the GP this year i got nothing except the amount of pit stops,next day my friend explained me.
That was a right point bout racing culture.Its new in Turkey we never had racers thats such new so it takes a while to raise the interest.For example i am almost 16 ,people at my age sometimes follow but my sister is 9 and her mates follow it more because they are raised with that culture.
I went to watch the GP on the main grandstand and it was full-why didnt they put these places on TV anyway?!- and people there had passion but there were less people with intense passion than the ones on the hills or the stands with lower prices.However everyone was shouting when Webber overtook Alonso.
And if any of you guys would like to help us, can you give your name here it is just a help for Turkish GP.We tried this way for bringing Senna Movie to Turkey and it worked! :
http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/f1turkiye
The track is a loss leader. There is no place for loss leaders on the calander. That is the simple decision for MrE to make. If he was to keep a loss leader on the calander, especially when there are more deserving tracks that are screaming out for a GP, then he wouldn't be doing his job and wouldn't be generating the return demanded by CVC's investors. It's a pretty simple way that this works.
Let's face it, Istanbul Park is hardly a classic. It's not up there with Spa Francorchamps, Suzuka, Imola, A1 Ring, Monza or Magny Cours (to name a few of excellent circuits that I can remember seeing F1 race at). If it was to go, I would imagine that very few would lament its loss. Sure there is turn 8 but we can get our fix of corners like this at Spa and Suzuka.
The solution is simple though. If Turkey want to keep their F1 race then they better start going, no amount of petitioning is going to outweigh the financial aspect of the race. Simple as that. Sure it's expensive but the prices are probably the lowest they can be given the number of parties who get a slice of the race revenue.
Magny Cours???????
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