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[The Ram]

Jenny Boy burnt out his inters then ended in a position (under hamilton's beating cane) where he couldn't come out of and so he makes a cowardly gamble: He runs into the pits with his tail between his legs had a go on slicks. It payed off in the end. Good decision. BUT! How is that good driving? It only means Jenson just happens to be a good gambler. What the hell does gambling have to do with being a good driver? Jenson drive was so soporific he wasn't even on the camera for 2 minutes. YAAAAWWN.


With that I have to say this to Jenny boy:

Jenson world champion Button.... You are a smart driver, your 10 years of experience seem to have helped you to make a good gamble on Sunday but lets get one thing clear:

You can't win the lotto every race weekend.

[texasmr2]

[Jensonb]

With that I have to say this to Jenny boy:

Jenson world champion Button.... You are a smart driver, your 10 years of experience seem to have helped you to make a good gamble on Sunday but lets get one thing clear:

You can't win the lotto every race weekend.

He...He doesn't read the forum mate.

[Ineluke]

Now show us Buttons so called top overtaking moves?

You know what? No. I refuse. I'm sick of doing your research for you. You sit there and you throw videos of moves I've already seen happen at me to disprove a point I never made (That Hamilton couldn't overtake - a donkey with a biscuit for a brain knows that, he's about the best Aggressive-Style overtaker in the pack), just because I have to cheek to actually know what I'm talking about? No. I'm not going to do it for you. All you've proved to me is that:

A - You were asleep through much of 2009
B - You know jack and squat about Formula One (And Jack just left town)
C - You purport to be enough of an expert to judge Hamilton's overtaking prowess against Button's, but you seem to have no knowledge of F1 prior to Lewis Hamilton's arrival on the scene - or at least, you are so inexplicably besotted with him the time before ceases to matter in your head
D - You're not bloody reading what I'm saying anyway so I could probably just say something irrelevant and you'd never notice
E - Further to the previous point, Hamilton wouldn't be so quick if his tyres were pancakes
F - You're very talented at boring me to death.

If you want to keep living in a fairy world where Button (One of the best Precision-Style overtakers in the business) can't overtake anyone (I call this particular fairy world "Idiot TV Pundits Circa 2002"), feel free. But do try to keep the noise down in future, the grown ups are talking.

And yes, I'm aware I'm recycling that joke before anyone feels the need to point it out (I'm looking at you Headless )

Again, you show me that you can't come up with the goods,as for you doing my research,yeah right. Their is no way in hell that Button is better at overtaking than Lewis,it's a pipe dream made up by you.

As for me not knowing anything about F1,well again that's just wistful thinking on your part.

Again, who said button can't overtake,making things up to try and prove your point show your desperation in trying to prove your point.

If you want to keep living in your fairy tail world thinking that Button is a better driver than Lewis even though most of the top F1 pundits would agree with me, then go ahead.

Now before you have a heart attack while blowing one over a picture of Button,at least know what you are talking about.

Run along little fella,people with more knowledge about F1 are talking.

[Ineluke]

Jenny Boy burnt out his inters then ended in a position (under hamilton's beating cane) where he couldn't come out of and so he makes a cowardly gamble: He runs into the pits with his tail between his legs had a go on slicks. It payed off in the end. Good decision. BUT! How is that good driving? It only means Jenson just happens to be a good gambler. What the hell does gambling have to do with being a good driver? Jenson drive was so soporific he wasn't even on the camera for 2 minutes. YAAAAWWN.


With that I have to say this to Jenny boy:

Jenson world champion Button.... You are a smart driver, your 10 years of experience seem to have helped you to make a good gamble on Sunday but lets get one thing clear:

You can't win the lotto every race weekend.

Exactly,he wont be able to rely on chance and luck all season,obviously jensonb(not the real Jenson,just someone who thinks he is the real man) will disagree.

[manmonkee]

This is great, some real vitriol being chucked about here, I think the general consensus is Lewis is blindingly fast and aggressive and Jenson is fast but calculating and strategic. Both are great wet weather drivers too, I'd have to say though Jenson has always had a problem getting heat into the tyres, wet weather tyres especially, hence Jenson having to choose slicks early in australia.
I expect Lewis to beat Jenson this year, not by much though, if you didn't have to change your tyres jenson would win them all .

[vaptin]

Jenny Boy burnt out his inters then ended in a position (under hamilton's beating cane) where he couldn't come out of and so he makes a cowardly gamble: He runs into the pits with his tail between his legs had a go on slicks. It payed off in the end. Good decision. BUT! How is that good driving? It only means Jenson just happens to be a good gambler. What the hell does gambling have to do with being a good driver? Jenson drive was so soporific he wasn't even on the camera for 2 minutes. YAAAAWWN.


With that I have to say this to Jenny boy:

Jenson world champion Button.... You are a smart driver, your 10 years of experience seem to have helped you to make a good gamble on Sunday but lets get one thing clear:

You can't win the lotto every race weekend.

It's good f1 driving, Jenson won the race. That's good driving. There's more to f1 than going around the track faster than anyone else in wet races, smart stragety calls pay dividends ask Ross Brawn.

Is a driver who wins by making smart strategy calls worse than one who finishes lower down through overtaking on track?

[Hammer278]

From my humble perspective, I tend to lean towards the 'Ram' in this argument.

It was pretty obvious Jenson made a pretty rash gamble (heading straight into the pits on the lap he gets beaten by his teammate on track). He even mentioned he might have fluffed it up when seeing the pitlane was wet! Obviously, he did not have confidence in his decision.

It was a shot in the dark. And it paid of bigtime. But still, how is this skillful driving? He wasn't the only one who managed to maintain those tyres for 50 od laps? Lewis was easily keeping up with Kubica in 3rd place when he went in...it wasn't like he was struggling now, was he?

The difference in pace between Lewis and Jenson towards the end of the race isn't telling either, as they had very different tyres (old/new). Though a great barometer between both these drivers would be in the first part of the race. The winning call was in the right moment to go into the pits to get the slicks on. And Jenson chanced on it. In terms of driving however, I simply recall Lewis sewing up his Button nicely while on intermediates.

[Jensonb]

Their is no way in hell that Button is better at overtaking than Lewis,it's a pipe dream made up by you

That's funny, because I didn't say Button was better at overtaking than Lewis.

Back in your pram Ineluke, the grownups are kind of busy.

[texasmr2]

From my humble perspective, I tend to lean towards the 'Ram' in this argument.

Wow that is a shock considering your handle .

It was pretty obvious Jenson made a pretty rash gamble (heading straight into the pits on the lap he gets beaten by his teammate on track). He even mentioned he might have fluffed it up when seeing the pitlane was wet! Obviously, he did not have confidence in his decision.

You say rash because it was Jenson but if it had been Hamilton you would have deemed it as pure genious !!

Their is no way in hell that Button is better at overtaking than Lewis,it's a pipe dream made up by you

That's funny, because I didn't say Button was better at overtaking than Lewis.

Back in your pram Ineluke, the grownups are kind of busy.

[antoniob]

are we stuck now with luke and his cousins, ram & hammer ?

[scotty]

I must remind everyone about the quite blatant sticky thread in this section of this forum apparently. Don't say we didn't warn you...

[scotty]

Unlocked because there's an interesting dynamic developing here that i think is worthy of discussion.

I hope this thread can stay civil, if not then heads will roll. I have no qualms about warning and banning people as necessary!

[vaptin]

What's the interesting dynamic developing?

[scotty]

What's the interesting dynamic developing?

Well, you've surely seen how the first 4 races have played out right? Button getting the wins despite Hamilton's clear advantage in pace, etc...?