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#250475
I think he also ruined a set of Primes in a qualifying or Practice, so he only had two sets for the race. He went P-P-O-O-O. It was the 4th stint where he started losing time - that was on his second set of Options, and BEFORE the 'touch' with Alonso.

Others here have mentioned that the McLaren team thought his last pit (after the touch) was unnecessary and he could have toughed it out til the finish. Don't have a source or quote on that myself.


Ted mentions it in this video: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 029197.stm Includes Whitmarsh saying it was well I think "Lewis said I'm coming in" (after the initial discussion which the team didn't support his request for a pit stop).

Benson also mentions it here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewbenson ... ortly.html .

I don't think he should've pitted, was more out of frustration I think, similar to his calls for new tyres last year as well. But I don't think that's his major issue in this race, or even Heidfeld getting ahead at the start, it was where the pace went after his third stop. Alonso should never have been able to catch him, and Button pulled away easily as well
#250478
And why did he always pit early, and three laps from the end?


Before his first pit he was stuck behind Heidfeld since lap 1. I think the team pitted him hoping afterward he'd have clean air to start posting better times. That put him behind everyone in terms of pit stops.
#250532
Petrov thought that was so cool he hit an Xgames event later that day for more air :D !
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This makes me wonder if he and Webber are earning frequent flyer miles?
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#250559
I think he also ruined a set of Primes in a qualifying or Practice, so he only had two sets for the race. He went P-P-O-O-O. It was the 4th stint where he started losing time - that was on his second set of Options, and BEFORE the 'touch' with Alonso.

Others here have mentioned that the McLaren team thought his last pit (after the touch) was unnecessary and he could have toughed it out til the finish. Don't have a source or quote on that myself.

All in all, a lot of stuff went badly for him. The least of his problems was the penalty.


No, he went O-O-P-P-P. The option tire is the softer one, the prime is the harder compound.
#250562
I think he also ruined a set of Primes in a qualifying or Practice, so he only had two sets for the race. He went P-P-O-O-O. It was the 4th stint where he started losing time - that was on his second set of Options, and BEFORE the 'touch' with Alonso.

Others here have mentioned that the McLaren team thought his last pit (after the touch) was unnecessary and he could have toughed it out til the finish. Don't have a source or quote on that myself.

All in all, a lot of stuff went badly for him. The least of his problems was the penalty.


No, he went O-O-P-P-P. The option tire is the softer one, the prime is the harder compound.


Right, got that mixed up. Thanks for the correction.
#250564
I think he also ruined a set of Primes in a qualifying or Practice, so he only had two sets for the race. He went P-P-O-O-O. It was the 4th stint where he started losing time - that was on his second set of Options, and BEFORE the 'touch' with Alonso.

Others here have mentioned that the McLaren team thought his last pit (after the touch) was unnecessary and he could have toughed it out til the finish. Don't have a source or quote on that myself.

All in all, a lot of stuff went badly for him. The least of his problems was the penalty.


No, he went O-O-P-P-P. The option tire is the softer one, the prime is the harder compound.


Yes thats right.
You cant tough it out on those tyres once theyve gone and the driver knows when theyve gone. Its likened to fallening off a cliff. He'd already been off the track ones, so one assumes he was off the cliff. He has to be the one to make that call. In his rookie year he didnt come in when he wanted to, he listened to the team and lost the world championship. It has to ulitimately be the drivers call.
#250581
I had a bad feeling when he locked up big time in his last run in Q2 at turn one. 2 cars were just approaching the corner from the pits and Lewis panicked..since he was in elimination and it was his last chance. The left front looked busted right after, and I was thinking hell he's not using those again...that ultimately screwed his weekend over. :rolleyes:
#250667
Button is indeed much better in handling the Pirelli tyres...


No he isnt. He was bettr on the hards but he was also tinkering with his set up. Lewis was better on the softs.

That's debatable.
EDIT: EDITING A USERS POST TO INSERT YOUR OWN OPINION IS WELL OUT OF ORDER RACECHICK.


I have not and would not edit a post to "get my opinion in". I unjumbled quotes that had got mixed up because they made no sense. The reply had been inserted above the previous post..
#250688
Button is indeed much better in handling the Pirelli tyres...


No he isnt. He was bettr on the hards but he was also tinkering with his set up. Lewis was better on the softs.

That's debatable.
EDIT: EDITING A USERS POST TO INSERT YOUR OWN OPINION IS WELL OUT OF ORDER RACECHICK.


I have not and would not edit a post to "get my opinion in". I unjumbled quotes that had got mixed up because they made no sense. The reply had been inserted above the previous post..

The line I replaced was later seen in your Post in reply. I don't care how jumbled anything was, you had no reason to edit my Post, it was fine.
#250729
Button is indeed much better in handling the Pirelli tyres...


No he isnt. He was bettr on the hards but he was also tinkering with his set up. Lewis was better on the softs.

That's debatable.
EDIT: EDITING A USERS POST TO INSERT YOUR OWN OPINION IS WELL OUT OF ORDER RACECHICK.


I have not and would not edit a post to "get my opinion in". I unjumbled quotes that had got mixed up because they made no sense. The reply had been inserted above the previous post..

The line I replaced was later seen in your Post in reply. I don't care how jumbled anything was, you had no reason to edit my Post, it was fine.


Perhaps like you I should not have cared how jumbled the quotes were,and I apologise if I made a mess in trying to sort them out, but the fact remains that that was the SOLE reason I edited, and i resent the fact that you suggest otherwise. If you wish to continue this 'debate' then please answer my pm. We've both had our say on the forum and it isnt the place to continue.
#250736
Didn't notice this the first time I watched a replay of the race, but, watch this video from about the 58 second mark. What the hell is Nando doing with his hands when he starts????

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#250737
Didn't notice this the first time I watched a replay of the race, but, watch this video from about the 58 second mark. What the hell is Nando doing with his hands when he starts????

[youtube]ZnLuxy6NErI[/youtube]


FOMS blocked it already.
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