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#193306

That's because he was driving an awful, awful car.


I did say he had a crap car, but if he was the ultimate race driver he would have got more out of his car and done slightly better than he did
#193311
I think jensonb means Jenson is the best at managing the race?

The best racing driver implies that Jenson is just the best - which I disagree with.

You are correct.

Why didn't you just say that, instead of being tit about it?


You talking to me?

no

I think jensonb means Jenson is the best at managing the race?

The best racing driver implies that Jenson is just the best - which I disagree with.

You are correct.

Why didn't you just say that, instead of being tit about it?

Why don't you ever say anything, instead of just being a tit?

:rofl:
#193313

That's because he was driving an awful, awful car.


I did say he had a crap car, but if he was the ultimate race driver he would have got more out of his car and done slightly better than he did

How far does that sentiment go? "Done slightly better?" Define that. It's such a vague criticism. Button got some amazing performances in by wringing the neck of the truly abysmal Honda RA-107 - I think some of you forget just haw atrocious it was - it wasn't just the paint job, the car was fundamentally and completely flawed from day one. 2006 he put together a race-winning run in the tepid RA-106 and went on to score more points than any other driver from that race on. 2002 he wrestled the appalling Benetton B201 to 5th place in Germany - in a season where the car, lacking power steering, gave Button (Already one of the fittest men in F1 by that point) a shoulder injury because of it's abysmal steering.

He managed a top-3 season finish, bested his team mate five years running, repeatedly reached the podium from lower than tenth on the grid...

What more do you people want? Is a driver no good if they don't win the title within 3 years? What kind of attitude is that? Where has this fantastical image of drivers winning several races in sub-par equipment come from? Nobody in the past decade has ever won a race in a car which was anything less than competitive, barring retirements of better cars. Even then, midfield cars took the wins. It's impossible to win without a decent car. Most F1 races are won by the fastest car over the weekend. Deal with it.

I hear all this crap from people about "oh well Button wasn't getting Podiums in the couple years before Brawn so he's s***" or "well Jenson didn't really contest a title until 2009 so he clearly isn't any good" and I ask you: What on earth are you talking about?! Were you just not paying attention? Do you not understand this sport somehow? Get some perspective! Not every car gives you a shot at wins, few give you a shot at the title. You need luck to be in that position, skill then comes into play. When the luck was there, Jenson won- with a race to spare. And for that matter, where are these mystical top drivers winning in machinery like Button was using? The driver s you all talk about being the best - Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel, Kubica, Kimi - even bleeding Massa...Not a one of them ever won a race in a car which wasn't at least competitive.

Most of them started their careers in top teams, all of them spent most of their time in top teams and did their winning there. Why do you not doubt them? Vettel never did anything particularly special before joining Red Bull - one of the two best teams 2 years straight - because when he was at Toro Rosso the car was competitive and the team better managed. Him winning for them is nothing like if Jaime did it on Sunday.

Come back to reality folks, we miss you :banghead:

Why didn't you just say that, instead of being tit about it?

Why don't you ever say anything, instead of just being a tit?

:rofl:

:hehe: All in good fun.
#193319
The threat of him :hehe:


Heh, my thoughts exactly

And Button's better than Vettel.



hahahahahaha

:hehe:


Number WDC's Vettle has - 0
Number of Times Vettle has overtaken for the win - 0
Number of Times Vettle has overtaken ever - 0

Number of WDC Buton has - 1
number of times button has overtaking for the win - 2 good ones i can think of
Number of times Button has overtaken ever - lots.


honestly if Webber slamed it past vettle at the start of Oz vettle would be on the team radio unsure of what to do next, as he dosn't understand the concept of an overtake.


This is wrong at so many levels. Do you honestly believe it?


Belive it? i'm not a preacher mate its bloody fact.

Simply put, you are actually wrong.


Nope he's always won from pole with exception of Bahrain when he only won because Lewis had brake failure and retired overtaking a car in the pits in not an overtake.

Out of all the drivers in the top four teams,

Button, Lewis

Alonso, Massa

Webber, Vettle

Schumacher, Rosberg

The only one who would be confused by the concept of overtaking is Vettle.

So yeh even Britney is a better overtaker than Luke Skywalker.
#193376
But you don't need much more than getting pole and winning the race to win a championship. Now managing the car - that's the question
#193392
I wish this forum could put every member through atleast a 10 lap KART session so they could truelly have an understanding of what it is like to race etc etc . That way there would be ALOT LESS BS from armchair racers :yes: .
#193394
But you don't need much more than getting pole and winning the race to win a championship. Now managing the car - that's the question


wrong.

:yes: Flat-out wrong
#193406
Hmm I didnt get that one? too many litle birds? birdfood, birds eating , birds nest































tits? I thought they were blue though or called blue tits? :yikes:
#193420
Check out the file name of the pic (quote button should do) :hehe:


ahh I didnt even know there was such a bird, thats something i've learned today then, is it any relation to the Blue tit or the No tit (posh spice) :D
#193425
Check out the file name of the pic (quote button should do) :hehe:


ahh I didnt even know there was such a bird, thats something i've learned today then, is it any relation to the Blue tit or the No tit (posh spice) :D

Nah, it's only related to all the tits on here that call each other tits :P
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