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#271871
Webber needs to go to a local dragstrip and practice his starts, He is always losing position at the start of GPs :banghead: As for the Lewis and Kobi thing, racing incident, can't really blame Kobi for that one.
#271881
Would like to see how Lewis handles driving for a mid field team.....me thinks he couldnt hack it



Come off it mate.


I'm sorry but unlike every other driver who has to work their way up the ranks from the small teams to the big teams, Lewis had everything handed to him on a platter. Been in one of the strongest cars every year. Vettel, Alonso and all that have had to earn their way to the top through years of hard work at the rear of the field.

McLaren midfield in 2009? They had the 3rd best car ffs and where pretty much at Red Bull level in the 2nd half of the year.
#271884
Would like to see how Lewis handles driving for a mid field team.....me thinks he couldnt hack it



Come off it mate.


I'm sorry but unlike every other driver who has to work their way up the ranks from the small teams to the big teams, Lewis had everything handed to him on a platter. Been in one of the strongest cars every year. Vettel, Alonso and all that have had to earn their way to the top through years of hard work at the rear of the field.

McLaren midfield in 2009? They had the 3rd best car ffs and where pretty much at Red Bull level in the 2nd half of the year.


I agree, Lewis should have told Ron Dennis to back off and ask him to write an email to one of the backmarker teams so that he can train for 'years and years' to 'earn' his place in a top team so people like Crawf will be proud of him.

Why would anyone want the chance to win the WDC in their 1st and 2nd season...blasphemy. Look at Vettel, the guy who spent years and years in Toro Rosso (or was it 1 or 2 years?) and then earning a spaceship for the next 3 years thus making him one of the most respected drivers in the field.

Lewis' greed has earned him the suffering today. Maybe he needs to repent by switching seats with Maldanado and asking Rubens to train him how to be a loser first. :clap:
#271886
All i know is if Jenson pulled a move like that and kobi pushed him off it would not be Jenson fault. Lewis was passed and kobi had no where to go,he wasnt going to take Lewis on the outside. Lewis moved a bit to the left for the turn in and the only thing i can see is that he should of checked his mirror although any of the other drivers would of done what Lewis did.

The WDC is over,now its who comes down to who is first in the team. The bbc and many Lewis haters are desperate for Jenson to beat Lewis but even with DNF's its not going to happen. What does that say about Jenson if Lewis still beats him with all the DNF he has had.

By the end of Moza Lewis will be in front of Jenson again.
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#271889
Hamilton eventually will learn that the NASCARs are the big ones with fenders and the fuzzy dice hanging from the rear view.



Or not.


Anyone would think that Lewis is the only driver to have crashes this year. Di Resta has had just as many and last year it was Vettel and Webber. Next year it will be someone else,these things happen.
Not all the crashes have been his fault anyway.

Lewis isnt going anywhere so get use to it dont let your hate blind you. What do you do for a living lol. I suppose you are one of these people who thinks he could do a better job in Lewis's place.
#271893
...Anyone would think that Lewis is the only driver to have crashes this year....

Lewis is THE most penalized driver in Formula 1 this season. Hardly appropriate decorum for a previous (and aspiring future) world champion. And his little test of wills yesterday with Kobayashi saved the stewards the bother.

Someone should tell the lad the first step in extracting one's self from a hole is STOP DIGGING.
#271895
...Anyone would think that Lewis is the only driver to have crashes this year....

Lewis is THE most penalized driver in Formula 1 this season. Hardly appropriate decorum for a previous (and aspiring future) world champion. And his little test of wills yesterday with Kobayashi saved the stewards the bother.

Someone should tell the lad the first step in extracting one's self from a hole is STOP DIGGING.


He's the most penalised yes...............we all know about that. It casts a shadow over the whole of stewarding.
Digging? hasnt he just accepted full responsibility for Sunday's crash? How is that digging?
#271896
Would like to see how Lewis handles driving for a mid field team.....me thinks he couldnt hack it



Come off it mate.


I'm sorry but unlike every other driver who has to work their way up the ranks from the small teams to the big teams, Lewis had everything handed to him on a platter. Been in one of the strongest cars every year. Vettel, Alonso and all that have had to earn their way to the top through years of hard work at the rear of the field.

McLaren midfield in 2009? They had the 3rd best car ffs and where pretty much at Red Bull level in the 2nd half of the year.


I agree, Lewis should have told Ron Dennis to back off and ask him to write an email to one of the backmarker teams so that he can train for 'years and years' to 'earn' his place in a top team so people like Crawf will be proud of him.

Why would anyone want the chance to win the WDC in their 1st and 2nd season...blasphemy. Look at Vettel, the guy who spent years and years in Toro Rosso (or was it 1 or 2 years?) and then earning a spaceship for the next 3 years thus making him one of the most respected drivers in the field.

Lewis' greed has earned him the suffering today. Maybe he needs to repent by switching seats with Maldanado and asking Rubens to train him how to be a loser first. :clap:



Well good on him for getting a drive with McLaren. Never said he shouldn't have taken the offer.....

Just saying I don't think he would have made it to a top class F1 team if he took the traditional route like 99% of other drivers.
#271897
Would like to see how Lewis handles driving for a mid field team.....me thinks he couldnt hack it



Come off it mate.


I'm sorry but unlike every other driver who has to work their way up the ranks from the small teams to the big teams, Lewis had everything handed to him on a platter. Been in one of the strongest cars every year. Vettel, Alonso and all that have had to earn their way to the top through years of hard work at the rear of the field.

McLaren midfield in 2009? They had the 3rd best car ffs and where pretty much at Red Bull level in the 2nd half of the year.


I agree, Lewis should have told Ron Dennis to back off and ask him to write an email to one of the backmarker teams so that he can train for 'years and years' to 'earn' his place in a top team so people like Crawf will be proud of him.

Why would anyone want the chance to win the WDC in their 1st and 2nd season...blasphemy. Look at Vettel, the guy who spent years and years in Toro Rosso (or was it 1 or 2 years?) and then earning a spaceship for the next 3 years thus making him one of the most respected drivers in the field.

Lewis' greed has earned him the suffering today. Maybe he needs to repent by switching seats with Maldanado and asking Rubens to train him how to be a loser first. :clap:



Well good on him for getting a drive with McLaren. Never said he shouldn't have taken the offer.....

Just saying I don't think he would have made it to a top class F1 team if he took the traditional route like 99% of other drivers.


You mean like winning GP2 in fine style with some outstanding drives?
#271898
Would like to see how Lewis handles driving for a mid field team.....me thinks he couldnt hack it



Come off it mate.


I'm sorry but unlike every other driver who has to work their way up the ranks from the small teams to the big teams, Lewis had everything handed to him on a platter. Been in one of the strongest cars every year. Vettel, Alonso and all that have had to earn their way to the top through years of hard work at the rear of the field.

McLaren midfield in 2009? They had the 3rd best car ffs and where pretty much at Red Bull level in the 2nd half of the year.


I agree, Lewis should have told Ron Dennis to back off and ask him to write an email to one of the backmarker teams so that he can train for 'years and years' to 'earn' his place in a top team so people like Crawf will be proud of him.

Why would anyone want the chance to win the WDC in their 1st and 2nd season...blasphemy. Look at Vettel, the guy who spent years and years in Toro Rosso (or was it 1 or 2 years?) and then earning a spaceship for the next 3 years thus making him one of the most respected drivers in the field.

Lewis' greed has earned him the suffering today. Maybe he needs to repent by switching seats with Maldanado and asking Rubens to train him how to be a loser first. :clap:



Are you serious????

So if a top team believed that you were genuinely good enough to be offered a race winning seat, you would say " Err no thanks I'll drive a slower car, struggle to show my full potential, with the possibility of not being able to get the seat back, if you find someone else just as fast in the meantime"....

A team principal would wonder whether you just don't have the balls for it, or whether you're nuts. Either way, I doubt the offer would be re-issued.

You are very naive to the workings of motor sport mate. Every driver would sell his sister to land a plumb drive. After all remember all these guys are very seasoned by the time they are in F1, age notwithstanding, and F! has a litany of drivers who had one chance at a drive, and didn't make the most of it, through either misfortune or their own doing......

Look at Tarso Marques at Minardi. They had signed Fisi, but gave him 12 laps at a test to show his talent. He lapped 0.9 sec quicker straight away. Minardi snapped him up, but the car was terrible, and couldn't show his potential. With no money, he couldn't buy his way into a testing role or a better seat. He might not have been a regular race winner, but he wasn't a no hoper he was made out to be.

For the record, Alonso didn't fight his way up in F1. Renault ( Benetton) knew of his raw pace having tested with Minardi, and Benetton themselves . Flavio signed him up straight away, but was smart enough to put him at Minardi so he could learn the F1 ropes, without undue pressure, exactly what Red Bull are doing with Ricciardo at HRT.....

For Lewis to come into F1 in 2007, and perform as well as he did, shows just how thorough his preparation (with McLaren) in and out of the car was. As said above, GP2 proved his ability, as there are no victories handed out in that category, as you can't simply buy speed.

As for the accident on Sunday, yes he has some fault to bear. But to say he should've checked mirror prior is a weak argument.
1. The Sauber would always be in his mirrors, he just went past it...
2. At 320 kph, when your'e braking at 3 G, and trying to spot an apex 100 mtrs further down the road, you try and focus for over a second on a small vibrating mirror to gauge the distance to the car behind..... don't even try to compare looking back into a huge road car mirror while doing freeway speeds, it's a different world mate.....
3. People have to accept things like "racing accidents' exist, and there is no point analysing the teeth out of them in order to apportion blame.
#271901
Would like to see how Lewis handles driving for a mid field team.....me thinks he couldnt hack it



Come off it mate.


I'm sorry but unlike every other driver who has to work their way up the ranks from the small teams to the big teams, Lewis had everything handed to him on a platter. Been in one of the strongest cars every year. Vettel, Alonso and all that have had to earn their way to the top through years of hard work at the rear of the field.

McLaren midfield in 2009? They had the 3rd best car ffs and where pretty much at Red Bull level in the 2nd half of the year.


I agree, Lewis should have told Ron Dennis to back off and ask him to write an email to one of the backmarker teams so that he can train for 'years and years' to 'earn' his place in a top team so people like Crawf will be proud of him.

Why would anyone want the chance to win the WDC in their 1st and 2nd season...blasphemy. Look at Vettel, the guy who spent years and years in Toro Rosso (or was it 1 or 2 years?) and then earning a spaceship for the next 3 years thus making him one of the most respected drivers in the field.

Lewis' greed has earned him the suffering today. Maybe he needs to repent by switching seats with Maldanado and asking Rubens to train him how to be a loser first. :clap:



Are you serious????

So if a top team believed that you were genuinely good enough to be offered a race winning seat, you would say " Err no thanks I'll drive a slower car, struggle to show my full potential, with the possibility of not being able to get the seat back, if you find someone else just as fast in the meantime"....

A team principal would wonder whether you just don't have the balls for it, or whether you're nuts. Either way, I doubt the offer would be re-issued.

You are very naive to the workings of motor sport mate. Every driver would sell his sister to land a plumb drive. After all remember all these guys are very seasoned by the time they are in F1, age notwithstanding, and F! has a litany of drivers who had one chance at a drive, and didn't make the most of it, through either misfortune or their own doing......

Look at Tarso Marques at Minardi. They had signed Fisi, but gave him 12 laps at a test to show his talent. He lapped 0.9 sec quicker straight away. Minardi snapped him up, but the car was terrible, and couldn't show his potential. With no money, he couldn't buy his way into a testing role or a better seat. He might not have been a regular race winner, but he wasn't a no hoper he was made out to be.

For the record, Alonso didn't fight his way up in F1. Renault ( Benetton) knew of his raw pace having tested with Minardi, and Benetton themselves . Flavio signed him up straight away, but was smart enough to put him at Minardi so he could learn the F1 ropes, without undue pressure, exactly what Red Bull are doing with Ricciardo at HRT.....

For Lewis to come into F1 in 2007, and perform as well as he did, shows just how thorough his preparation (with McLaren) in and out of the car was. As said above, GP2 proved his ability, as there are no victories handed out in that category, as you can't simply buy speed.

As for the accident on Sunday, yes he has some fault to bear. But to say he should've checked mirror prior is a weak argument.
1. The Sauber would always be in his mirrors, he just went past it...
2. At 320 kph, when your'e braking at 3 G, and trying to spot an apex 100 mtrs further down the road, you try and focus for over a second on a small vibrating mirror to gauge the distance to the car behind..... don't even try to compare looking back into a huge road car mirror while doing freeway speeds, it's a different world mate.....
3. People have to accept things like "racing accidents' exist, and there is no point analysing the teeth out of them in order to apportion blame.



He was being sarcastic.................am I the only one who can see when someone is being sarcastic across the internet?
#271902
Would like to see how Lewis handles driving for a mid field team.....me thinks he couldnt hack it



Come off it mate.


I'm sorry but unlike every other driver who has to work their way up the ranks from the small teams to the big teams, Lewis had everything handed to him on a platter. Been in one of the strongest cars every year. Vettel, Alonso and all that have had to earn their way to the top through years of hard work at the rear of the field.

McLaren midfield in 2009? They had the 3rd best car ffs and where pretty much at Red Bull level in the 2nd half of the year.


I agree, Lewis should have told Ron Dennis to back off and ask him to write an email to one of the backmarker teams so that he can train for 'years and years' to 'earn' his place in a top team so people like Crawf will be proud of him.

Why would anyone want the chance to win the WDC in their 1st and 2nd season...blasphemy. Look at Vettel, the guy who spent years and years in Toro Rosso (or was it 1 or 2 years?) and then earning a spaceship for the next 3 years thus making him one of the most respected drivers in the field.

Lewis' greed has earned him the suffering today. Maybe he needs to repent by switching seats with Maldanado and asking Rubens to train him how to be a loser first. :clap:



Well good on him for getting a drive with McLaren. Never said he shouldn't have taken the offer.....

Just saying I don't think he would have made it to a top class F1 team if he took the traditional route like 99% of other drivers.


Anyone with half a brain can see that Lewis is up there with Alonso, Jenson and (gritted teeth) Vettel as the best drivers on the grid. There are those who say that Lewis is one of the most naturally talented drivers ever - even Jenson has said something along these lines.

Yes, he has his problems. He can be impetuous, reckless, immature and thoughtless. You're allowed to dislike him for these things. But by trying to make out that he's not talented you're just showing yourself up for allowing your dislike to cloud your judgement.

I can't stand Alonso, but I would never deny that he is a damn good driver.
#271904
Would like to see how Lewis handles driving for a mid field team.....me thinks he couldnt hack it



Come off it mate.


I'm sorry but unlike every other driver who has to work their way up the ranks from the small teams to the big teams, Lewis had everything handed to him on a platter. Been in one of the strongest cars every year. Vettel, Alonso and all that have had to earn their way to the top through years of hard work at the rear of the field.

McLaren midfield in 2009? They had the 3rd best car ffs and where pretty much at Red Bull level in the 2nd half of the year.


I agree, Lewis should have told Ron Dennis to back off and ask him to write an email to one of the backmarker teams so that he can train for 'years and years' to 'earn' his place in a top team so people like Crawf will be proud of him.

Why would anyone want the chance to win the WDC in their 1st and 2nd season...blasphemy. Look at Vettel, the guy who spent years and years in Toro Rosso (or was it 1 or 2 years?) and then earning a spaceship for the next 3 years thus making him one of the most respected drivers in the field.

Lewis' greed has earned him the suffering today. Maybe he needs to repent by switching seats with Maldanado and asking Rubens to train him how to be a loser first. :clap:



Are you serious????

So if a top team believed that you were genuinely good enough to be offered a race winning seat, you would say " Err no thanks I'll drive a slower car, struggle to show my full potential, with the possibility of not being able to get the seat back, if you find someone else just as fast in the meantime"....

A team principal would wonder whether you just don't have the balls for it, or whether you're nuts. Either way, I doubt the offer would be re-issued.

You are very naive to the workings of motor sport mate. Every driver would sell his sister to land a plumb drive. After all remember all these guys are very seasoned by the time they are in F1, age notwithstanding, and F! has a litany of drivers who had one chance at a drive, and didn't make the most of it, through either misfortune or their own doing......

Look at Tarso Marques at Minardi. They had signed Fisi, but gave him 12 laps at a test to show his talent. He lapped 0.9 sec quicker straight away. Minardi snapped him up, but the car was terrible, and couldn't show his potential. With no money, he couldn't buy his way into a testing role or a better seat. He might not have been a regular race winner, but he wasn't a no hoper he was made out to be.

For the record, Alonso didn't fight his way up in F1. Renault ( Benetton) knew of his raw pace having tested with Minardi, and Benetton themselves . Flavio signed him up straight away, but was smart enough to put him at Minardi so he could learn the F1 ropes, without undue pressure, exactly what Red Bull are doing with Ricciardo at HRT.....

For Lewis to come into F1 in 2007, and perform as well as he did, shows just how thorough his preparation (with McLaren) in and out of the car was. As said above, GP2 proved his ability, as there are no victories handed out in that category, as you can't simply buy speed.

As for the accident on Sunday, yes he has some fault to bear. But to say he should've checked mirror prior is a weak argument.
1. The Sauber would always be in his mirrors, he just went past it...
2. At 320 kph, when your'e braking at 3 G, and trying to spot an apex 100 mtrs further down the road, you try and focus for over a second on a small vibrating mirror to gauge the distance to the car behind..... don't even try to compare looking back into a huge road car mirror while doing freeway speeds, it's a different world mate.....
3. People have to accept things like "racing accidents' exist, and there is no point analysing the teeth out of them in order to apportion blame.



He was being sarcastic.................am I the only one who can see when someone is being sarcastic across the internet?


Its pretty obvious he was being sarcastic. Its what some of the bullpoo written about lewis drives you to!
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