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[f1ea]

They didn't screw up they wanted to protect the medical car because somone had been potentialy seriously injured and deal with making the track safe. - this is why the safty car did not wait to pickup the leader and why it took so long to annouce the investigation.

The FIA then wanted to make 100% sure Hamilton had been at fault, so they checked the in-car fottage and then had to wait for arial footage of the incident before they could punish Hamilton.

They wanted to protect the med car by allowing half the field to rush to the pits?

Right now, there is no NEED to pit when the SC comes out (as in last yr some cars HAD TO pit because they were running out of fuel).

They took so long for the investigation because they didnt even notice it.

[Gaz]

They didn't screw up they wanted to protect the medical car because somone had been potentialy seriously injured and deal with making the track safe. - this is why the safty car did not wait to pickup the leader and why it took so long to annouce the investigation.

The FIA then wanted to make 100% sure Hamilton had been at fault, so they checked the in-car fottage and then had to wait for arial footage of the incident before they could punish Hamilton.

They wanted to protect the med car by allowing half the field to rush to the pits?

Right now, there is no NEED to pit when the SC comes out (as in last yr some cars HAD TO pit because they were running out of fuel).

They took so long for the investigation because they didnt even notice it.

Well the medical car was attending webber before they opened the pits.

The pitstop rule has always been that, not like they can change it on the fly

[f1ea]

The pitstop rule has always been that, not like they can change it on the fly

No, last yr they had the pits closed when the SC came out, but then some cars HAD to pit because they were going to run out fuel so they got penalised.

Right now, nobody NEEDS to pit because there is no fuel to run out... so, why fix and change the regs for this season, based on a problem with last yr's fuel regs...... and even worse, most of the cars raced for the pits. Luizzi even admitted, they were all pushing. I noticed it and it was even more puzzling because there was supposed to be full course yellows.

[bud]

SC will never be fair, you can have a 40 second lead and a SC being deployed can ruin your race. Ferrari are just having a sook because they were disadvantaged and looking for somewhere to vent their over emotional latin anger! Talking about the race as a farce for gods sake, I am sure they had no qualms with the farce that was Spa 08 with the results coming their way there. What goes around comes around Ferrari.

[RA Dunk]

. What goes around comes around Ferrari.

yes but they don't see it that way, Screw the rest of the pack as long as were ok, It's all me me me with them.

[Gaz]

The pitstop rule has always been that, not like they can change it on the fly

No, last yr they had the pits closed when the SC came out, but then some cars HAD to pit because they were going to run out fuel so they got penalised.

Right now, nobody NEEDS to pit because there is no fuel to run out... so, why fix and change the regs for this season, based on a problem with last yr's fuel regs...... and even worse, most of the cars raced for the pits. Luizzi even admitted, they were all pushing. I noticed it and it was even more puzzling because there was supposed to be full course yellows.

so what they are supposed to suddnly change it mid race?

[What's Burning?]

Got this over on GPUpdate, I guess there is no better expert than Flavio on getting away lightly when "cheating".

Hamilton should have been disqualified, says Briatore

Former Renault F1 Managing Director Flavio Briatore believes that Lewis Hamilton should have been removed from the results of the European Grand Prix after the Englishman overtook the Safety Car in Valencia.

With the Safety Car having been deployed on Sunday for Mark Webber’s accident, both television and amateur video footage do confirm that Hamilton narrowly passed the Safety Car as it made its way on to track – something for which he was handed a drive-through penalty later in the race.


However, Briatore – who was present in Spain but is barred from working in the sport until 2013 for his part in last year’s ‘Crashgate’ race-fixing scandal – believes the Englishman got off lightly.

“The rules are not precise,” the 60-year-old explained to Italy’s Sky Italia.

“They (FIA stewards) shouldn't have penalised Hamilton after 20 laps – it should have been after two or three laps and passing the Safety Car should gain you a black flag.

"Hamilton is lucky - everything he does ends up turning out well.”

[f1ea]

The pitstop rule has always been that, not like they can change it on the fly

so what they are supposed to suddnly change it mid race?

No, i answered because you said the SC rule has always been like that. And i told you it wasn't. Last yr was different, and they changed it for no reason, because this yr's regs are different. They should have it so it was in accordance to the CURRENT fuel regs, before the season started... i understand there was nothing to do mid race. Although it was kinda surprising to not have it like it was last yr. I didnt even remember it had been changed.

[Gaz]

The pitstop rule has always been that, not like they can change it on the fly

so what they are supposed to suddnly change it mid race?

No, i answered because you said the SC rule has always been like that. And i told you it wasn't. Last yr was different, and they changed it for no reason, because this yr's regs are different. They should have it so it was in accordance to the CURRENT fuel regs, before the season started... i understand there was nothing to do mid race. Although it was kinda surprising to not have it like it was last yr. I didnt even remember it had been changed.

they changed it to stop people running out of fuel, i agree its redundant now.

perhaps they are keeping it because it shakes things up?

Dunno but its been like that since the start of the season.

[myownalias]

POT, KETTLE and BLACK springs to mind given what Briatore was banned from F1 for

[Juliet P]

Alonso apologises for FIA criticism

By Jonathan Noble

Fernando Alonso has apologised for over-reacting to the safety car controversy at last weekend's European Grand Prix - and said he never intended to fuel suspicions that the FIA had 'manipulated' the race.

The Spaniard was furious after the race in Valencia - suggesting that the FIA had favoured Lewis Hamilton by taking too long to hand him a punishment for overtaking the safety car early in the event.

Those delays meant Hamilton was able to take a drive-through penalty without losing position.

Two days on, Alonso has said he is much calmer about the situation - and clarified that his remarks were fuelled by frustration that he had lost positions by respecting the rules, while Hamilton had effectively benefited from breaking the regulations.

"Obviously, in the clear light of day, I am much calmer than I was in the moments immediately following the race," said Alonso in his diary column on the official Ferrari website.

"At the time, I reacted emotionally and in that situation, it is all too easy to adopt a tone and say things that can be interpreted wrongly, giving rise to suspicions, something which I had no intention of doing.

“Sure, I understand that the stewards have a difficult job to do and they have to take decisions that are not easy. What I meant was that those drivers who, like us, respected the regulations, unfortunately, in this situation, suffered much more than those who broke them, even though they were given a penalty.

“And I am not referring to any of the drivers in particular: it’s a general matter and I think we should talk about it together in a calm way, to ensure that things like this do not happen again."

There had been speculation that the FIA could punish Alonso and his Ferrari team for some of their outspoken remarks after Spain, but the governing body gave no indication it intended to react. Alonso's apologetic comments will, however, help serve to draw a line under the matter.

The FIA is aware, however, that the events of Sunday have highlighted several potential problems with the current safety car regulations, and has called an extraordinary meeting of thinktank, the Sporting Working Group, to go through the issues next week ahead of the British Grand Prix.

Alonso welcomed that move and hoped that any matters up in the air after Valencia can be cleared up so there is no repeat controversy in the future.

“I was pleased to hear that the FIA has reacted promptly, calling an extraordinary meeting of the Sporting Working Group and I am confident, certain even, that all the points up for discussion will be cleared up in a comprehensive fashion.”

Despite losing valuable points in Valencia through the bad timing of the safety car, Alonso remains upbeat about his title prospects.

“Even if the Valencia result was not what we wanted, it has not done irreparable damage,” he said. “It’s true that the gap to the leader has now jumped to 29 points, but we have not even reached the halfway point of the season. We trail by just over one win, so the situation is still very open.

“The updates we brought to Spain saw us make a step forward and get closer to the front runners. I am satisfied with that, but also aware that we must continue to push on with the development of the F10, because we need to have a car capable of fighting for pole and to give us the edge over our rivals as soon as possible.

“If we are now 29 points off the championship leader, it means that in the next ten races, we have to score at least 30 more than whoever is in the lead at any one time.”

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84896

[What's Burning?]

Hindsight is 20/20 vision.

[Gaz]

hes only applogized becuase his comments got the FIA upset.

[f1ea]

hes only applogized becuase his comments got the FIA upset.

Of course. There is nothing else to apologise for, except making the comments about the FIA.

[ivey]

hes only applogized becuase his comments got the FIA upset.

people tend to say things they don't mean when they're too emotional and "in the moment". He has a quick temper and said what he though while being angry