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[Cyril Sneer Racing]

Nico was faster in Canada.

[racechick]

But Lewis got past him. Also pressured him so much he cut a chicane and accelerated to stay ahead.

[CookinFlat6]

Nico was faster in Canada.

He was also faster in Bharain, yet got schooled in racecraft

In Canada Lewis was ahead of him when he had his dnf, and Lewis started behind him, ergo Lewis was faster. The faster driver starting ahead by definition would stay ahead. The driver behind in an identical car who does not overtake but is on his gearbox at will and forces him to take a short cut off track to stay ahead would tend to pull away were the places reversed
The chasing driver used less fuel ergo he has better race craft. The chasing driver was better and faster at the start and first to the corner

If I was running a marathon against another guy, and I took a taxi up the hill halfway through the race to avoid the other guy leaving me behind, someone out there would say I was faster

[LewEngBridewell]

But Lewis got past him.

Aided by Nico's longer-than-usual pit-stop. It was close to call between the two in Montreal, and I'm sure we'd have seen some more decent dicing had the cars not come into trouble.

[LRW]

What I'd really like to see, just to add to the driver tension, is for them to both take each other out one race.

Wouldn't help Lewis' chances in the WDC but would still be fun!!

[What's Burning?]

What I'd really like to see, just to add to the driver tension, is for them to both take each other out one race.

Wouldn't help Lewis' chances in the WDC but would still be fun!!

You might see that in Abu Dhabi.

[racechick]

Lewis' was longer the stop before.

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[racechick]

Oops. Tspatslk doesn't for quotes. That was concerning pistols.

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[racechick]

Pitstops not pistols. Silly phone!

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[Cyril Sneer Racing]

Lewis only caught up to Hamilton because the car began to fail, before that Nico was consistently pulling away.

I wouldn't say he was schooled in racecraft. Neither one of them has been able to pass from behind, only at the start and in a failing car which skipped a chicane (the same chicane Nico gets persecuted for accidentally jumping).

It's funny if the situation were reversed because the Lewis fans would insist there's no way that Nico could ever catch up to Lewis, even though he has done it a few times. But since Nico's car failed it has to be that Lewis is faster...

Cookin, you just proved my point, a driver is not faster simply because he has a technical advantage. Do you seriously think that Nico was faster in qualifying and the first quarter of the race then all of a sudden dropped 2 seconds in 2 laps because Hamilton is faster, when throughout the race his car was in and out of failure?

Also, Lewis is only racing his teammate as well. Lewis was perhaps first to the corner but did he get in front? No, so why not say the same thing for Nico in Bahrain? He was faster and could have passed Lewis if he was not forced off track.

[CookinFlat6]

Cookin, you just proved my point, a driver is not faster simply because he has a technical advantage.

Lewis Hamilton shouldn't worry too much about the 22 point gap Nico Rosberg now has, although difficult to overcome, the Briton has been consistently quicker than his team-mate according to David Coulthard. - See more at: http://www.f1times.co.uk/news/display/0 ... wV7SG.dpuf

Chiesa said that Hamilton`s fast lap was always a little bit faster than Rosberg`s, adding that the German knew it then and he knows it today and that is why he always waits so long until he goes out in qualifying.

"Honestly, one thing is clear: Lewis, from my point of view, has one, two tenths advantage on Nico because he can get the laps in qualifying in order.

Lewis is massively quick. I know that from when we competed in go-karts. He won and I finished second in that championship.

Of the races Rosberg has won: in Australia Hamilton retired with the spark plug problem; at Monaco he believes he was tricked out of what was going to be the pole that was going to win him the race, and at Montreal the car let him down just after he'd taken the lead. At each of those races he believes he was basically quicker. At those races where Rosberg was faster - Bahrain and Spain - Hamilton beat him regardless.

Toto Wolff has described Lewis Hamilton as “a driving genius” compared to his “precise” and “very diligent” team-mate Nico Rosberg.

“I think Lewis is the fastest driver in Formula One. He has sheer speed. When he puts in a quick one, he is the master.”

[Hammer278]

Despite it being clear for many, he's not been able to pull those laps the past 2 qualifying sessions. He needs a great banker, and both times he's been a few hundredths shy of Rosberg which has essentially lost him 2 races. And it's both bankers which have essentially netted Rosberg 2 wins over his teammate (1 win, 1 2nd).

Lewis needs to nail in the lap first time out in Q3, this is just so crucial for overall success from here on in.

Ironically, I'd say it's not that crucial in Austria....even if he starts 3rd or 4th he has many chances to win that race on sheer race pace alone.

[CookinFlat6]

I hear you hamms

I have a somewhat controversial take on this - Lewis' biggest advantage and strength is not even his speed, its his race craft - his racing intelligence,

He is up against a tough and determined Nico and so he has to make sure he brings his A game everytime. However apart from Monaco and maybe qualifying in Canada Nico has had no answers. As long as Lewis continues to outqualify him on balance (like last year) and continues to be the better driver on Sunday (4-1 when they both finished) we are about to see what seperates the great from the good.

In Canada Nico had to squeeze Lewis at he start, Nico almost crashed into the wall of champions, Nico cut the chicane, yet Lewis was ahead when his car failed having not made any such mistakes. Lewis just has to continue as he is and the luck will even itself out sooner or later

[What's Burning?]

Lewis only caught up to Hamilton because the car began to fail, before that Nico was consistently pulling away.

I wouldn't say he was schooled in racecraft. Neither one of them has been able to pass from behind, only at the start and in a failing car which skipped a chicane (the same chicane Nico gets persecuted for accidentally jumping).

It's funny if the situation were reversed because the Lewis fans would insist there's no way that Nico could ever catch up to Lewis, even though he has done it a few times. But since Nico's car failed it has to be that Lewis is faster...

Cookin, you just proved my point, a driver is not faster simply because he has a technical advantage. Do you seriously think that Nico was faster in qualifying and the first quarter of the race then all of a sudden dropped 2 seconds in 2 laps because Hamilton is faster, when throughout the race his car was in and out of failure?

Also, Lewis is only racing his teammate as well. Lewis was perhaps first to the corner but did he get in front? No, so why not say the same thing for Nico in Bahrain? He was faster and could have passed Lewis if he was not forced off track.

Nico was faster in Bahrain.

[Cyril Sneer Racing]

That was the point I was getting at, Nico has been faster in many situations and so has Lewis, but there hasn't been any real passing. Whoever gets in front at the start of the race seems to be the man to win. Therefore, as I see it, it is much closer than people are saying or willing to admit here. (Hamilton faster by a few tenths for a few races and then Rosberg by the same, for example.)

That's not meant to take away from Hamilton at all. Great driver, perhaps the best in the field (I think Alonso is best and then Hamilton, still close though). However, his fans seem to want to stretch it a bit and take away from Nico while doing it. Perhaps even saying things about Rosberg they'd hate to have said about Hamilton.

My favourites are down the field, I generally just cheer for good racing, I watch more for learning (I'm the same way with basketball and hockey, I don't really cheer for favourite teams). So I suppose maybe that's me just stirring things up in the hopes it will stay close. Because even if Hamilton ends up far ahead in the end I want some big moves and thrilling races while we get there.

Yes, Hamilton seems the better racer, but Rosberg seems to have some struggles and still he's been coming through. (Good for coming back after those losses to Hamilton, the hits to the ego, no?) And it's an opportunity for them both to get better.