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[racechick]

Thats almost better than the Schumacher one

And all my own work. Too much time on my hands!!

Evidently you need a hobby.

Ive got one. writing F1 scripts.

[andrew]

Thats almost better than the Schumacher one

And all my own work. Too much time on my hands!!

Evidently you need a hobby.

Ive got one. writing F1 scripts.

I meant a healthy hobby. All this McLaren conspiracy theories. It'll be costing you a fortune in tin foil hats.

[racechick]

Thats almost better than the Schumacher one

And all my own work. Too much time on my hands!!

Evidently you need a hobby.

Ive got one. writing F1 scripts.

I meant a healthy hobby. All this McLaren conspiracy theories. It'll be costing you a fortune in tin foil hats.

Er Andrew. It isnt real. Its pretend

[andrew]

Thats almost better than the Schumacher one

And all my own work. Too much time on my hands!!

Evidently you need a hobby.

Ive got one. writing F1 scripts.

I meant a healthy hobby. All this McLaren conspiracy theories. It'll be costing you a fortune in tin foil hats.

Er Andrew. It isnt real. Its pretend

I know.

[LewEngBridewell]

Wouldn't be the first time Lewis had screwed the tyres. I think it's happened twice in Budapest for a start hasn't it? Happened once in Istanbul too. I can recall all these instantly. Lewis just isn't good with tyre preservation. It's been a long running theme. There's no team mistakes in this particular situation whatsoever, as much as folk like to cook them up.

[andrew]

Wouldn't be the first time Lewis had screwed the tyres. I think it's happened twice in Budapest for a start hasn't it? Happened once in Istanbul too. I can recall all these instantly. Lewis just isn't good with tyre preservation. It's been a long running theme. There's no team mistakes in this particular situation whatsoever, as much as folk like to cook them up.

Both drivers have the same equipment only one manages to care for his tyres and the other can't or won't. If he wants to beat Button I think he'll have to learn how to look after his tyres as Button has been able to preserve and use his tyres at the key moments.

[LewEngBridewell]

Wouldn't be the first time Lewis had screwed the tyres. I think it's happened twice in Budapest for a start hasn't it? Happened once in Istanbul too. I can recall all these instantly. Lewis just isn't good with tyre preservation. It's been a long running theme. There's no team mistakes in this particular situation whatsoever, as much as folk like to cook them up.

Both drivers have the same equipment only one manages to care for his tyres and the other can't or won't. If he wants to beat Button I think he'll have to learn how to look after his tyres as Button has been able to preserve and use his tyres at the key moments.

Mind you, the Red Bulls were also experiencing high tyre degradation in Suzuka. I love Lewis' attacking style, but sometimes it just takes too much life out of the rubber.

[racechick]

Wouldn't be the first time Lewis had screwed the tyres. I think it's happened twice in Budapest for a start hasn't it? Happened once in Istanbul too. I can recall all these instantly. Lewis just isn't good with tyre preservation. It's been a long running theme. There's no team mistakes in this particular situation whatsoever, as much as folk like to cook them up.

Both drivers have the same equipment only one manages to care for his tyres and the other can't or won't. If he wants to beat Button I think he'll have to learn how to look after his tyres as Button has been able to preserve and use his tyres at the key moments.

And only one driver drives realy fast and drives round car problems, the other either cant or wont. what sort of a stupid statement was that?

[andrew]

Wouldn't be the first time Lewis had screwed the tyres. I think it's happened twice in Budapest for a start hasn't it? Happened once in Istanbul too. I can recall all these instantly. Lewis just isn't good with tyre preservation. It's been a long running theme. There's no team mistakes in this particular situation whatsoever, as much as folk like to cook them up.

Both drivers have the same equipment only one manages to care for his tyres and the other can't or won't. If he wants to beat Button I think he'll have to learn how to look after his tyres as Button has been able to preserve and use his tyres at the key moments.

Mind you, the Red Bulls were also experiencing high tyre degradation in Suzuka. I love Lewis' attacking style, but sometimes it just takes too much life out of the rubber.

True the Red Bull was hard on the softs. I think this was a lot to do with Vettel having to absolutely spank the car round to try and make a big enough gap for his pitstop but they haven't really suffered with tyre degradation problems (except for China which was a Red Bull balls up on the strategy). I don't think the McLaren is a car that is by its nature tough on its tyres - one driver manges to look after their tyres and the other doesn't.

It's all very well to have an attacking style but there is a time and place for everything in terms of driving styles as Button has shown in several races this year.

And only one driver drives realy fast and drives round car problems, the other either cant or wont. what sort of a stupid statement was that?

It's not a stupid statement. Button has worked out how to presere his tyres and have them in good nick when he needs them to be at their best and the other has higher tyre degradation and hasn't had the tyres when they need them. How else do you explain the difference in amounts of tyre degradation?

[racechick]

Wouldn't be the first time Lewis had screwed the tyres. I think it's happened twice in Budapest for a start hasn't it? Happened once in Istanbul too. I can recall all these instantly. Lewis just isn't good with tyre preservation. It's been a long running theme. There's no team mistakes in this particular situation whatsoever, as much as folk like to cook them up.

Both drivers have the same equipment only one manages to care for his tyres and the other can't or won't. If he wants to beat Button I think he'll have to learn how to look after his tyres as Button has been able to preserve and use his tyres at the key moments.

Mind you, the Red Bulls were also experiencing high tyre degradation in Suzuka. I love Lewis' attacking style, but sometimes it just takes too much life out of the rubber.

True the Red Bull was hard on the softs. I think this was a lot to do with Vettel having to absolutely spank the car round to try and make a big enough gap for his pitstop but they haven't really suffered with tyre degradation problems (except for China which was a Red Bull balls up on the strategy). I don't think the McLaren is a car that is by its nature tough on its tyres - one driver manges to look after their tyres and the other doesn't.

It's all very well to have an attacking style but there is a time and place for everything in terms of driving styles as Button has shown in several races this year.

And only one driver drives realy fast and drives round car problems, the other either cant or wont. what sort of a stupid statement was that?

It's not a stupid statement. Button has worked out how to presere his tyres and have them in good nick when he needs them to be at their best and the other has higher tyre degradation and hasn't had the tyres when they need them. How else do you explain the difference in amounts of tyre degradation?

Er starting on a used set because his 3rd quali got screwed! Getting a puncture! How do you explain (apart from the two times lewis got quali 3 screwed) the other driver being so far behind every quali?? Why are you trying to highlight the areas where jenson is strong and ignore the ones where lewis is? In fact why are you posting at all on 'The official lewis hamilton Support thread', when you so obviously dislike him?

[Hammer278]

Er starting on a used set because his 3rd quali got screwed! Getting a puncture! How do you explain (apart from the two times lewis got quali 3 screwed) the other driver being so far behind every quali?? Why are you trying to highlight the areas where jenson is strong and ignore the ones where lewis is? In fact why are you posting at all on 'The official lewis hamilton Support thread', when you so obviously dislike him?

A good question indeed. Sometimes the long annoying nose has to butt in everywhere, even where it needn't belong.

[bud]

It's not a stupid statement. Button has worked out how to presere his tyres and have them in good nick when he needs them to be at their best and the other has higher tyre degradation and hasn't had the tyres when they need them. How else do you explain the difference in amounts of tyre degradation?

many ways in which the drivers style plays in using up the tyres, not just how they set it up.

But you're suggesting Lewis can't look after his tyres? he has two race wins, (should have been three) You can't win this season if you don't look after your tyres. This race just gone his higher tyre wear to Jenson was basically because he was in traffic and also pitted a few laps earlier than those around him due to his puncture, so was having to push harder on older tyres to stay ahead of the cars behind who had fresher tyres is going to lead to higher tyre degradation.

[andrew]

It's not a stupid statement. Button has worked out how to presere his tyres and have them in good nick when he needs them to be at their best and the other has higher tyre degradation and hasn't had the tyres when they need them. How else do you explain the difference in amounts of tyre degradation?

many ways in which the drivers style plays in using up the tyres, not just how they set it up.

But you're suggesting Lewis can't look after his tyres? he has two race wins, (should have been three) You can't win this season if you don't look after your tyres. This race just gone his higher tyre wear to Jenson was basically because he was in traffic and also pitted a few laps earlier than those around him due to his puncture, so was having to push harder on older tyres to stay ahead of the cars behind who had fresher tyres is going to lead to higher tyre degradation.

Of course I don't know if he can or can't look after his tyres but from the view point of being on the outside looking in that's what it looks like with him repeatedly suffering from higher tyre degradation than Button. True he was in traffic and having to push harder but we've been races where Button has been in traffic and he's still managed to look after his tyres. Surely with him being out of sync' in Japan he'd could have played the waiting game and jumped others in the pits? Just seems to be a reoccuring thing which isn't getting any better which must suck for you Hamilton fans.

[Hammer278]

It's not a stupid statement. Button has worked out how to presere his tyres and have them in good nick when he needs them to be at their best and the other has higher tyre degradation and hasn't had the tyres when they need them. How else do you explain the difference in amounts of tyre degradation?

many ways in which the drivers style plays in using up the tyres, not just how they set it up.

But you're suggesting Lewis can't look after his tyres? he has two race wins, (should have been three) You can't win this season if you don't look after your tyres. This race just gone his higher tyre wear to Jenson was basically because he was in traffic and also pitted a few laps earlier than those around him due to his puncture, so was having to push harder on older tyres to stay ahead of the cars behind who had fresher tyres is going to lead to higher tyre degradation.

Of course I don't know if he can or can't look after his tyres but from the view point of being on the outside looking in that's what it looks like with him repeatedly suffering from higher tyre degradation than Button. True he was in traffic and having to push harder but we've been races where Button has been in traffic and he's still managed to look after his tyres. Surely with him being out of sync' in Japan he'd could have played the waiting game and jumped others in the pits? Just seems to be a reoccuring thing which isn't getting any better which must suck for you Hamilton fans.

Really? In the Lewis Hamilton support thread? This is deliberate provocation and I believe you need to be kicked the f*** out of this thread.

[bud]

It's not a stupid statement. Button has worked out how to presere his tyres and have them in good nick when he needs them to be at their best and the other has higher tyre degradation and hasn't had the tyres when they need them. How else do you explain the difference in amounts of tyre degradation?

many ways in which the drivers style plays in using up the tyres, not just how they set it up.

But you're suggesting Lewis can't look after his tyres? he has two race wins, (should have been three) You can't win this season if you don't look after your tyres. This race just gone his higher tyre wear to Jenson was basically because he was in traffic and also pitted a few laps earlier than those around him due to his puncture, so was having to push harder on older tyres to stay ahead of the cars behind who had fresher tyres is going to lead to higher tyre degradation.

Of course I don't know if he can or can't look after his tyres but from the view point of being on the outside looking in that's what it looks like with him repeatedly suffering from higher tyre degradation than Button. True he was in traffic and having to push harder but we've been races where Button has been in traffic and he's still managed to look after his tyres. Surely with him being out of sync' in Japan he'd could have played the waiting game and jumped others in the pits? Just seems to be a reoccuring thing which isn't getting any better which must suck for you Hamilton fans.

When Buttons been in the pack and made a big come back such as Spa he has been on different tyres to the cars around him. Such as him being on the options in the last stint compared to the cars he was chasing down. Lewis' problems in Japan were he was on the same tyre strategy as the cars around him but because he pitted earlier he was always 2 laps behind them.