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[Amanda]

Where about in the regulations is this sort of thing discussed? Anyone got a link? I initially took Hamilton's side in all of this but I'll admit I'm no expert on the rules so it's hard to make a fair assessment without reading the wording for myself.

Don't think there is a rule on it i think its just an unwritten thing that Drivers don't move more than once in the breaking zone.

If you watch the Oz reply avalible on formula1.com you can see Massa do somthing very simlar, but in the breaking zone entering a corner.

think it was vs webber.

I hate unwritten rules, what's the point? If it's a rule then write it down, then there's no disputing it. F1 is so backward sometimes.

How are you supposed to decide if it's breaking the rules if there's nowhere to check what the exact rule is? Some are saying it's not to make more than one move in the breaking zone, some say it's more than one move to block an overtaking manoeuvre, some say it's more than one change of direction at all...Argh! I need a rule book to read.

[Ineluke]

He wasn't blocking, blocking is the driver behind making a move then the car infront cutting him off! Lewis did not block

The car in front cutting him off? You just said that right? Well isn't that blocking? The guy behind makes the move (like you just said) and the guy in front (LH) cuts him off, you also just said that. In simple terms that equates to blocking does it not?

petrov was not making a passing move he was following Lewis! There is a difference if you can't undrstand that then you obviously know nothing about racing!

It is funny you always have to resort to your usual offending comments. And you are the expert as always because what, your a man and you race karts? That is nice to know but clearly I know a lot about racing but I need not boast about my own experiences in this field to see that LH did indeed block. And I dont see why you care anyway. He got away with it didn't he?

offending comments??? the truth is offending to you? yet here you go again bringing in this anti woman bs its simple if you cant understand what a block is compared to following another car then theres no point in debating with you!

I understand it quite clearly. And now I'll be as arrogant as you to tell you that you are wrong and I am right. I would easily know a lot more than you in terms of racing. Racing your little karts at your age means nothing. If you were really that great, you would by now be racing real cars. Anyway Mr know it all and who has his other McLaren friends support him (you know who you all are), think waht you want. LH blocked. I couldnt care less if he did. It isnt like he won the race. But the point is I am right and you are wrong because you really knowlittle yourself about racing. I tell you what, come to my country and I'll teach you how to drive in a real car. Not a kid's kart or a Holden ute with big V8 which is only good in a straight line.

This where you have it mixed up,lol I have not said it's legal,as matter of fact you are right,my point is he got a warning and that was the end of it,am i right?

Would you feel better if the stewards gave him a good old fashioned Lynching instead of a fine, i wonder.

It's yesterdays news..

[racechick]

AKR the only offending comments i see are yet again coming from you! Mods please do your thing

No you have offended me. Mods do your thing please.

Who'd be a mod eh?
Hello AKR-nice to see you back on here
Come on you two- the stewards cant understand the rules and as long as that is the case then the supporters will be confused.
AKR you know Bud wouldnt pull the sexist trick, he'd argue his point whoever you were. Dont let things get pesonal-discuss the point not the person making the point

Yeah I know. But it would of been nice had he first made his point with the illustration Car A and B thing from the start. Had he did that and not straight away said I don't know anything about racing, we could of avoided all the aggressivness and I would of considered his point in a much more nicer way.

As you just have done.

[Gaz]

Where about in the regulations is this sort of thing discussed? Anyone got a link? I initially took Hamilton's side in all of this but I'll admit I'm no expert on the rules so it's hard to make a fair assessment without reading the wording for myself.

Don't think there is a rule on it i think its just an unwritten thing that Drivers don't move more than once in the breaking zone.

If you watch the Oz reply avalible on formula1.com you can see Massa do somthing very simlar, but in the breaking zone entering a corner.

think it was vs webber.

I hate unwritten rules, what's the point? If it's a rule then write it down, then there's no disputing it. F1 is so backward sometimes.

How are you supposed to decide if it's breaking the rules if there's nowhere to check what the exact rule is? Some are saying it's not to make more than one move in the breaking zone, some say it's more than one move to block an overtaking manoeuvre, some say it's more than one change of direction at all...Argh! I need a rule book to read.

I know what you mean its not very clear.

I think the stewards were saying it was dangerous rather than unsporting, which is debatable.

At least they only warned him.

Like i say though Massa did somthing far worse to webber during the Oz race.

[MAD MAX]

Well the footage sure like hell looked like what your illustration showed. After I have downloaded the race, I'll watch that part again and re-look carefully to see who moved first. But if I see in more than 2 of the moves that Petrov moves first, then you will be wrong. If not then I guess it will have to be a truce. But I first need to see it again.

Watch and weep AKR, I think you need to eat a huge slice of humble pie and apologise to Bud http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2kGNnGAcT0

[antoniob]

Well the footage sure like hell looked like what your illustration showed. After I have downloaded the race, I'll watch that part again and re-look carefully to see who moved first. But if I see in more than 2 of the moves that Petrov moves first, then you will be wrong. If not then I guess it will have to be a truce. But I first need to see it again.

Watch and weep AKR, I think you need to eat a huge slice of humble pie and apologise to Bud http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2kGNnGAcT0

Now that you guys woke me up I will add my 2cents but not get involved. One thing I think has to be said is that God help the teams up front if the FIA gives renault the permission to make up the 30hp they say their engine is lacking compared to the other motors on the grid.

[AKR]

AKR what do you reckon about Massa doing moving around in the breaking zone in Oz when Webber was attempting to overtake

I need to review the footage. It will depend on how many times he changed race lines etc. If it was constant (I really cannot remember and would have to re see it) like Hamilton's then he isnt any smarter than Hamilton. Alhough the Stewards didn't say anything about Massa in Melbourne. If it were to be a similar issue, then why the inconsistency? Remember Hamilton still got a warning in Malaysia si he wasn't exactly all innocent.

[RA Dunk]

Watch and weep AKR, I think you need to eat a huge slice of humble pie and apologise to Bud http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2kGNnGAcT0

quite clearly see Hamilton moving first then Petrov following him

[AKR]

Well the footage sure like hell looked like what your illustration showed. After I have downloaded the race, I'll watch that part again and re-look carefully to see who moved first. But if I see in more than 2 of the moves that Petrov moves first, then you will be wrong. If not then I guess it will have to be a truce. But I first need to see it again.

Watch and weep AKR, I think you need to eat a huge slice of humble pie and apologise to Bud http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2kGNnGAcT0

Why do I need to say sorry. It isnt like we exactly hate each other. (bud and I). Im fact we are both having a private email chat right now as I type this.

[kerc]

Personally, i think it adds a great bit of excitement and that's what is seriously lacking in F1 these days.

Yup yup.

[kerc]

Watch and weep AKR, I think you need to eat a huge slice of humble pie and apologise to Bud http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2kGNnGAcT0

quite clearly see Hamilton moving first then Petrov following him

The proof is in the pudding, or so they say. Lewis always moved first.

RA, AKR will never be humble. She is sadly blinded. Having said that, I sometimes think she's actually not mental, but rather a damn good troll.

Maybe she even looks pretty hot.

[EwanM]

Watch and weep AKR, I think you need to eat a huge slice of humble pie and apologise to Bud http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2kGNnGAcT0

quite clearly see Hamilton moving first then Petrov following him

The proof is in the pudding, or so they say. Lewis always moved first.

RA, AKR will never be humble. She is sadly blinded. Having said that, I sometimes think she's actually not mental, but rather a damn good troll.

Maybe she even looks pretty hot.

"Caravan of love"

[AKR]

Well the footage sure like hell looked like what your illustration showed. After I have downloaded the race, I'll watch that part again and re-look carefully to see who moved first. But if I see in more than 2 of the moves that Petrov moves first, then you will be wrong. If not then I guess it will have to be a truce. But I first need to see it again.

Watch and weep AKR, I think you need to eat a huge slice of humble pie and apologise to Bud http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2kGNnGAcT0

Ok LH moved first. Sorry. I watched it about 5 times to be sure and LH moved first on every move he did. So no blocking. I so much hate admitting error on my part but there ypu all go. Happy bud and co?

[AKR]

Watch and weep AKR, I think you need to eat a huge slice of humble pie and apologise to Bud http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2kGNnGAcT0

quite clearly see Hamilton moving first then Petrov following him

The proof is in the pudding, or so they say. Lewis always moved first.

RA, AKR will never be humble. She is sadly blinded. Having said that, I sometimes think she's actually not mental, but rather a damn good troll.

Maybe she even looks pretty hot.

Thats not a maybe, its a definate.

[EwanM]

Watch and weep AKR, I think you need to eat a huge slice of humble pie and apologise to Bud http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2kGNnGAcT0

quite clearly see Hamilton moving first then Petrov following him

The proof is in the pudding, or so they say. Lewis always moved first.

RA, AKR will never be humble. She is sadly blinded. Having said that, I sometimes think she's actually not mental, but rather a damn good troll.

Maybe she even looks pretty hot.

Thats not a maybe, its a definate.