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[Ineluke]

Lewis has a bad race and this forum seems to be going through some of the most heated disputes i have witnessed!

Drop the 'because im black' statement, it was an obvious joke and it was not meant to mean anything.

Though i have to say watching that interview was quite cringeworthy:
"And of course I get the penalty, which is usual. He [Massa] held me up in qualifying and I got the penalty. He turned into me, and I got the penalty."
"It's just ridiculous. These drivers are absolutely frickin' ridiculous. Just stupid." This one really is not going to help him make friends...

He is not in it to make friends lol,he has friends.

[Yoruba]

As if LH needs the friendship approval of other F1 drivers to be deemed worthy....HA!

[Robert12010]

hes not there to make friends remember, none of them, il just ask this, purely as an example what if sebb was good friends with mark webber, would they have the same courage to overtake each other at risk of damaging the friendship?,

[nish2280]

I think you guys took me too literally...

I know he has friends, just to clarify.

[McLaren]

In summary and I hope you all agree it was a great race and one we have not seen at Monaco in what 15-20yr's?

I must confess as it was monaco i didn't bother to watch.i think that shows what the last 15-20 years there have been like

Well, you missed an action-packed one.....

Action packed yes,overtaking ???,all I've heard on here was it was enjoyable, but I haven't heard of a single overtake that hasn't had the stewards involved.
I've been a F1 fan for many years but I hate the Monaco GP.Yes it has the glitz and glamour ,but i'm not bothered about that.I want to see great racing ,which is something that doesn't/can't happen there.I understand why the drivers love the challenge but from a spectators points of view I think its pointless.
Formula one has out grown the place,if it wasn't for all the money people it would of been dropped years ago.
p.s. Lewis playing the race card makes you look an idiot.
rant over

[FRAFPDD]

What rule did i say he did breaK? Just dont cry when he has piss poor performances on the back of such outbursts.

You claim he did not speak appropriately in a manner that warrants punishment...bad pr etc. And I ask how what he said was not appropriate. Sugarcoating is something you actually practice and enjoy? I actually do have the balls to tell my boss that I can't work overtime if he asks. you? This is not the 1800s where I would not be able to do so and be threatened by 100 lashes. Those days are over. Or are they? We live in a world now where if one claims racism, the other side is quick to shut it down with the 'race card' shenanigans. So when someone is actually being discriminated against...how do they prove it without being labeled as a race card player? One has to wonder why he keeps facing the stewards 5 out of 6 races this year.

Yes LH made mistakes this weekend but all in all, let's give credit where it's due. In Monaco, I don't believe LH steward issues is race based but then again, how do we know?

No i did not? Dont tell me i claimed/implied he spoke in a way that warrants punishment, that is truly poor, absolutely poor. I said nothing about punishment and nothing implying punishment, the already thin threaded fabric of your flailing argument is getting thinner.

As for the rest of your post, your a liar. Do you tell your boss what you think of him, even if its that hes a w***er? No show me someone who does and still has a job and ilshow you a liar.

I dont actually follow what the point of your post is, theres too many uncorrelated questions just floating about like moving goalposts. Oh hang on ive got something, your asking me why what he said is inappropriate, communication breakdown, what he said isnt inappopriate (remember although im agreeing on this it is still our opinion, not fact) im saying WHERE and to WHO he said it was inappopriate, whether you disagree with that or not is the question. If he said that black thing to me at a social event id laugh, you cant say whatever you like where you like in this world, hence my conclusion: HE SHOULD NOT OF SAID WHAT HE SAID.

[Yoruba]

BLAH BLAH BLAH....hence my conclusion: HE SHOULD NOT OF SAID WHAT HE SAID.

Again...in English....why should he not have said what he said?

PS. From your post, I'm assuming you're (oh and it's you are not 'your') a blue collar worker who lives to just make the boss happy forgetting his own equality and rightful existence. Your tongue must hurt a lot from so much biting. Kudos to your philosophy chap!

[FRAFPDD]

I fear Hamilton is really going off the rails tbh, wish he had his 2007 attitude.

Id like to see ANYONE DARE disagree with me after watching Hamiltons post race BBC forum interview, DARE.


Why do you feel your so magnetic to the stewards " maybe because im black"

I think, think that was a joke...

Are you telling me that somehow makes it normal dialogue to say?

" For the last 5 of 6 races ive been called to the stewards its frickin ridiculous, frickin ridicoulous."

" (why are you so attracted to to stewards) i dunno maybe its cause im black, thats what ali g says (laughs)

Can you just wait if you havent seen it till i or someone posts the link. My jaw hit the floor, he just would not shut up, and everything he said was like .

What is normal dialogue to you I'm wondering? I appreciate people that tell it like it is rather than beat around the bush because of "powers that be" or PR. Remeber these guys are STILL human beings.

Do you tell your boss at work to shove it up his arse when he wants overtime? Or do you keep your mouth shut and grumble to yourself.

Case closed. No you keep your mouth shut. Wheres your " human being anti-PR" ideology then? Its nowhere, because there are some things for the sake of integrity and unneccesary aggro, you just do not say" If he had said that whole convo behind closed doors to his team then its fine, encouraged even.

What he said, and the manner and posture in which he presented it was totally inappropriate.

What rule did he break by what he said? He didn't rub you and the stewards the 'right' way? Didn't sugarcoat it the way you want to hear it? Leave the sugarcoating to politics...LH is a pure 'call it as I see it' racer...period.

Exactly, but the so called lewis fan FRAFPDD can't see or except it.

Matter of opinion arent seen or accepted, they are heard, i heard what you say and i propose a different view point, have you ever been to school, even 3rd grade kids are taught to respect what other people might think

Calling me a so called Lewis fan just cause i dont agree with you two, shows just why so many people think Hamilton fans (yourself) are complete and utter retards. Because you just do not like anything said about anyone that speaks without your seal of approval.

At this point (if i was say,an alonso fan) id say whatever, ill have the last laugh, but the fact is i am a Lewis fan, and what he said today isnt going to improve his performances is it? Is it? No. And being his fan links to why im concerned about his on/off track performances today.

Lol, don't get angry it's okay to pretend. Lewis made one rash move today IMO but others in the race did worst and yet that's pushed under the carpet. As for the black comments you don't seem to want to answer me about more comments on what Bernie thinks of racist behaviour.

Now, i don't recall insulting you once in my post yet you feel the need to call me a retard,why so angry?

Smile..

The fact your taking serious consideration and thought into what? an 80 something year old man who wants sprinklers for grand prix's thinks shows how seriously i should be taking you.

Not to mention your off tangent like hell. We're discussing whether lewis should or should not of said what he said, not whether bernie wants to lynch him a black man.

[Ineluke]

The great thing is he is still number two in the WDC and has lost no places with the 20 second penalty.

He drove a great fighters race today and with all the BS from his team this weekend he still managed to stay ahead of his team mate in the WDC and still the only driver to beat Vettel this season.

Is it to late to win? Vettel has a seriously lead but we still have plenty of races to go and i would rather Lewis have bad luck now than later. Sooner or later Vettel has to have a bad run just like the others chasing him.

[Ineluke]

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[FRAFPDD]

BLAH BLAH BLAH....hence my conclusion: HE SHOULD NOT OF SAID WHAT HE SAID.

Again...in English....why should he not have said what he said?

Act your age, unless your twelve. Quote everything i actually said like an adult that isnt mentally deficient and then ill answer you. Deal?

[Ineluke]

BLAH BLAH BLAH....hence my conclusion: HE SHOULD NOT OF SAID WHAT HE SAID.

Again...in English....why should he not have said what he said?

Act your age, unless your twelve. Quote everything i actually said like an adult that isnt mentally deficient and then ill answer you. Deal?

Wow you really are angry and hell bent on insulting anyone who is a McLaren/Lewis fan.

He should of said what he said and i applaud him for saying it,it's long overdue.

So Mr so called Lewis fan what choice word will you use for you insult next.

[LewEngBridewell]

In summary and I hope you all agree it was a great race and one we have not seen at Monaco in what 15-20yr's?

I must confess as it was monaco i didn't bother to watch.i think that shows what the last 15-20 years there have been like

Well, you missed an action-packed one.....

Action packed yes,overtaking ???,all I've heard on here was it was enjoyable, but I haven't heard of a single overtake that hasn't had the stewards involved.
I've been a F1 fan for many years but I hate the Monaco GP.Yes it has the glitz and glamour ,but i'm not bothered about that.I want to see great racing ,which is something that doesn't/can't happen there.I understand why the drivers love the challenge but from a spectators points of view I think its pointless.
Formula one has out grown the place,if it wasn't for all the money people it would of been dropped years ago.
p.s. Lewis playing the race card makes you look an idiot.
rant over

Well Schumacher overtook Hamilton without a penalty, with Hamilton returning the favour later on. There's two examples I can think of right away.

I can understand why you hate Monaco though. It's not even the best street circuit IMO.

[Fact Man]

Hamilton handed post-race penalty

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/29052011/ ... nalty.html

[Yoruba]

BLAH BLAH BLAH....hence my conclusion: HE SHOULD NOT OF SAID WHAT HE SAID.

Again...in English....why should he not have said what he said?

Act your age, unless your twelve. Quote everything i actually said like an adult that isnt mentally deficient and then ill answer you. Deal?

Wow you really are angry and hell bent on insulting anyone who is a McLaren/Lewis fan.

He should of said what he said and i applaud him for saying it,it's long overdue.

So Mr so called Lewis fan what choice word will you use for you insult next.

Agreed!