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By What's Burning?
#354159
but were they also greater than one of the Mercedes cars running out of gas and not reach the finish line? the world may never know, but Brawn does.
By Hammer278
#354168
but were they also greater than one of the Mercedes cars running out of gas and not reach the finish line? the world may never know, but Brawn does.


...point.

But whatever, Brawn doesn't know sh*t I guess since other "World Champions" walking in the paddock have better ideas!
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By racechick
#354233
Well, those experts in the paddock that insist Lewis is number one despite not having the facts to hand are wrong. Rosberg has It in his contract that he will be equal to his team mate. If Lewis had been signed as a number one( which has been vehemently denied by all concerned) it would be in breech of Rosbergs contract which was signed first.
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/04/r ... -mercedes/
By Hammer278
#354234
Well, those experts in the paddock that insist Lewis is number one despite not having the facts to hand are wrong. Rosberg has It in his contract that he will be equal to his team mate. If Lewis had been signed as a number one( which has been vehemently denied by all concerned) it would be in breech of Rosbergs contract which was signed first.
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/04/r ... -mercedes/


Lol...forgetting a "no" in the article makes all the difference.

He said: “I am very confident that there is number one and number two. Extremely confident. But you can also answer that question yourself in a few weeks’ time or months’ time.
By CookinFlat6
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These top F1 drivers are all as quick as each other in the same car given the right day. Look at Alonso/Massa and Seb/Webber. As long as your teammate isnt a make believe lame duck, its about which one can pull out that killer lap in q3, or who goes missing less during the races.
Over the season one will be proven better.

It would be completely mad to say Lewis is number 1 just because he is Lewis, a WC etc etc. The best performances will come when your teammate is as fast as you are and you need to dig down and produce that which seperates the great from the fast

look at Alonso years of no challenge from his team mate and now he goes to pieces when he has to keep proving he is number 1

So far lewis has proven that he is number 1 ( not contractually etc) as in the more effective driver overall, not just fastest etc

Game on, I hope Nico really raises ghis game and gives lewis a close run for his money cos thats when we will see the lewis we all like to see - greatness, not looking over his shouldier cos his team are trying to sneak a lame duck in the way
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By racechick
#354242
Further to that, theres a really good article in autosport looking at the driving style of the three top drivers (lewis, Sebastan and Alonso). I recommend reading it if you get the chance, a good read.
the bit im going to quote comes at the end of the description of Lewis style

"Although Paddy Lowe at the time reckoned Lewis's ease with overstear woud probably lead Mclaren down a development path of more aggresively pointy cars, not needing to have them as stable as with previous drivers, it didnt really pan out that way. the arrival of Jenson Button maybe had something to do with this. Certainly there were traits about the 2010 car that Button didn't car for and it was notable that he was much happie with the general neutrality of the 2011 and'12 cars. Hamilton meanwhile simple adapted to what he was given - and that's the beauty of his preferred technique; its fantastically adaptable for all handling traits, tyre behaviour, grip levels and weather conditions. only in changeable conditions, with grip varying from one corner to the next - such as we saw for a time in Brazil last year - did Button's finer- hined feel allow him to be faste"

the article is by Hughes and there's a piece on each of the drivers.
By Hammer278
#354349
In his latest column for BBC Sport, Lewis Hamilton talks about taking team orders, working overtime and loving life at Mercedes...

Team orders in Formula 1 are in the news at the moment, for obvious reasons, and it is a more difficult and complicated subject than you might imagine.
I have experienced both sides of team orders and I understand both the positives and the negatives.
When Fernando Alonso was my team-mate at McLaren in 2007, in the first half of the season, I was a number two driver in the eyes of the team and it got a little bit in the way of my opportunity through the year.
Ross Brawn and Lewis Hamilton
"I emailed my team principal Ross Brawn a couple of times telling him I didn't feel very good about [the team orders in Malaysia]."
But there are also positives to working as a team. In 2008 at Hockenheim we had an agreement between myself and my team-mate Heikki Kovalainen.
I was fighting for the championship at the time. I was quicker than Heikki and was coming through the field, so he let me past because he knew it was what was best for the team and best for me.
But I have also been in the same situation as Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel were in Malaysia.
In Turkey 2010, I led the race and was told to back off to save fuel and that Jenson Button had also been told to back off and hold position. Then Jenson overtook me, just as Sebastian did to Mark.
That was tough. So I understand the feelings Mark had. I got my position back but it was a risky manoeuvre, which could have caused us both to not finish the race.

There are many reasons teams sometimes want to tell the drivers to hold position.
So when you have team orders you have to be able to rationalise it, hope it is for the right reasons, and stick to it.
For us in Malaysia, the fact of the matter was, Nico Rosberg and I had both been fuelled with the expectation that it would rain for longer than it did. When it's wet, the car uses less fuel, so the team gave us a smaller fuel load than they might have done for a dry race.
I was fighting with the Red Bulls so I used more fuel during that period to try to keep up with them. In the final stint, Nico and I were both in a position where if we kept fighting we would have struggled to finish the race.
So the team took a decision with the information they had that the best thing was to bring the cars over the finish line in the positions they were in at the time.
The team did themselves proud. Nico did himself and the team proud, finishing one place behind me in fourth.
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Lewis Hamilton and Nico Rosberg
Malaysian GP: Mixed emotions for Mercedes pair over result
It was an awkward position for me because I don't like to be gifted anything. Every point, every position I have ever raced for in my whole life I have earned.
While for at least three-quarters of that race I had earned that position, during that last little part it felt weird that Nico was all over me and then we were told to hold position. It didn't feel real for me.
For days afterwards, I didn't feel good about it. I felt very awkward about the situation - I even emailed my team principal Ross Brawn a couple of times telling him I didn't feel very good about it.
But the way I move on is that I will work my backside off to make sure I am not in that position again.
It just so happens that I went to the factory on Sunday. I got my guys, instead of having a nice day at home, to come in and work overtime with me.
We worked in the simulator on fuel strategies, fuel saving and so on, and I think people will see the difference in the coming races.
You can always improve and this is one of the biggest steps I have made and I am quite excited about using what we have learned.

It has been a dream start to the year for me at Mercedes. It was such a huge decision for me to come to this team - especially when I knew I had such a good car at McLaren, and from what I could see it looked like they would have another good car this year.
Lewis Hamilton
"Driving at Mercedes is just the most satisfying experience. I couldn't be happier with my decision"
To leave that and go somewhere where the car was potentially two seconds off was a really tough decision for me. But I think I moved for the right reasons.
People couldn't see that, and they said I only went for one thing, which was money. But the fact is I had more money offered to me at McLaren so it wasn't a money situation. It was the sheer experience and trying to optimise my capabilities somewhere else.
Naturally, I still have a real soft spot for McLaren. They got me to F1, there will always be a place for them in my heart and I would never wish anything negative on them.
It is sad for me to see they are struggling this year and I have no doubt they will improve and get back to the front.
But I am only focusing on myself and the team.
I've realised Mercedes have made a huge step in developing the car and we are able to compete with Ferrari and Red Bull.
It is just the most satisfying experience and maybe we are not winning just yet but I see a great future for this team.
I couldn't be happier with my decision.

________________________________________

Amazing how it was the same freaking scenario with Button and Vettel, but Vettel gets slated to the core and Button was given the benefit of the doubt. His "Oh I did not know, I did not hear" stories were simply bought and gobbled up by the media...f**king hypocrisy to the max.
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By racechick
#354355
Great read! This boy wants to win without favours! I've said that all along. It's very important to him. It's part of why he's my favourite. It's not always what you do but the way yo do it.

It was clear what Button did in that race. :thumbdown: Respect and trust dropped a little lower at that point for me regarding JensonI doubt it will ever recover. But Nico is a different animal and these two guys are great!!
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By LewEngBridewell
#354362
Great read! This boy wants to win without favours! I've said that all along. It's very important to him. It's part of why he's my favourite. It's not always what you do but the way yo do it.

It was clear what Button did in that race. :thumbdown: Respect and trust dropped a little lower at that point for me regarding JensonI doubt it will ever recover. But Nico is a different animal and these two guys are great!!


I remember Lewis' face on the podium... ouch...
By Nin-Chin
#354376
News on his allergic reaction on Thursday

Lewis Hamilton recovered from an allergic reaction to pollen in time to take part in practice for Sunday's Chinese Grand Prix. Hamilton, who was sent back to his hotel from the track on Thursday, said: "I am feeling better today. It is just an allergy. I am allergic to a lot of stuff. It is not a cold. It's just the pollen. The summer is coming and I am allergic to pollen quite heavily." He denied it was hay fever.

"I have suffered in the past and I am on some special medication for it. I have been feeling pretty low on energy this week. Yesterday was a disaster. I went back to the hotel really early and passed out. I was asleep for the whole night. This is the first time I have suffered with it here."



Hamilton is suffering a head cold,as per formula1.com
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By racechick
#354454
I get allergic reactions to some things like that, not often, but it happened the other day when I'd been pruning a particular plant ( I looked it up and found the sap contains something that can cause reaction in some people) eyes itched immediately, then back of the throat then the nose starts. And you feel nackered. Anyway, glad he's feeling better now.
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By LewEngBridewell
#354458
racechick is pruning plants! Yayyy, spring is here!

Let's organise a picnic. geetface can start with the sandwiches.
By andrew
#354459
I suffer from hayfever (sometimes quite badly) in the summer and I work in a very dusty environment. Go figure.
By CookinFlat6
#354486
Great read! This boy wants to win without favours! I've said that all along. It's very important to him. It's part of why he's my favourite. It's not always what you do but the way yo do it.

It was clear what Button did in that race. :thumbdown: Respect and trust dropped a little lower at that point for me regarding JensonI doubt it will ever recover. But Nico is a different animal and these two guys are great!!


The difference with vettel and button is that Lewis took things in his own hands and took the place back, just like Senna he'd rather have crashed out than let an inferior driver/outside influence beat him. Webber tried and gave up, he coulda turn his engine up and take the place back but couldn't so played the whinging victim , and so seb looks worse than button, who lamely couldn't hold the place even with the advantage of surprise etc

Then after it was more embarrassment for button than a reason to apologise like Seb because button didn't pull off his heist whereas Seb did

More power to him
By Hammer278
#354497
I suffer from hayfever (sometimes quite badly) in the summer and I work in a very dusty environment. Go figure.


Lol so? Do you have to drive a 300km/h vehicle which pulls up to 5G in a couple of days after?
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