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#153050
I cant stand the Piquets.



What does Piquet Snr have to do with this crap?

Is this a question or pure sarcasm?



No it's a question...I can't see any guilt on Piquet Snr. in this case...unless clarifying things is wrong.



He's making things ten times worse by not keeping his mouth shut. His statement about Alonso has no evidence to support it, he's spectulating and implicating a potentially innocent man at the same time.
#153051
I cant stand the Piquets.



What does Piquet Snr have to do with this crap?

Is this a question or pure sarcasm?



No it's a question...I can't see any guilt on Piquet Snr. in this case...unless clarifying things is wrong.


he aparently tried to blackmail Flavio for a start
#153052
I cant stand the Piquets.



What does Piquet Snr have to do with this crap?

Is this a question or pure sarcasm?



No it's a question...I can't see any guilt on Piquet Snr. in this case...unless clarifying things is wrong.

I'm sure you'll get an earful here - I leave it to the others to enlighten you :wink:




I want someone to show me his guilt on this case. Seriuously...
#153054
I cant stand the Piquets.



What does Piquet Snr have to do with this crap?

Is this a question or pure sarcasm?



No it's a question...I can't see any guilt on Piquet Snr. in this case...unless clarifying things is wrong.


he aparently tried to blackmail Flavio for a start



Well, since the blackmail game started with Briatore (offering a contract renewal to NP until 2009/12 and not fulfilling his part of the deal by firing him before the time)... Piquet found himself on a position to mess things up
Last edited by Bruno_Brazil on 15 Sep 09, 06:25, edited 1 time in total.
#153055
I cant stand the Piquets.



What does Piquet Snr have to do with this crap?

Is this a question or pure sarcasm?



No it's a question...I can't see any guilt on Piquet Snr. in this case...unless clarifying things is wrong.

I'm sure you'll get an earful here - I leave it to the others to enlighten you :wink:




I want someone to show me his guilt on this case. Seriuously...


He's making all sorts of accusations and not providing any proof (as far as I'm aware...correct me if I'm wrong and he has shown some kind of proof).
#153057
I cant stand the Piquets.



What does Piquet Snr have to do with this crap?

Is this a question or pure sarcasm?



No it's a question...I can't see any guilt on Piquet Snr. in this case...unless clarifying things is wrong.

I'm sure you'll get an earful here - I leave it to the others to enlighten you :wink:




I want someone to show me his guilt on this case. Seriuously...


No one said he was guilty of being involved with the planning of the crash but he does appear to be fueling things now.
#153061
I cant stand the Piquets.



What does Piquet Snr have to do with this crap?

Is this a question or pure sarcasm?



No it's a question...I can't see any guilt on Piquet Snr. in this case...unless clarifying things is wrong.

I'm sure you'll get an earful here - I leave it to the others to enlighten you :wink:




I want someone to show me his guilt on this case. Seriuously...


He's making all sorts of accusations and not providing any proof (as far as I'm aware...correct me if I'm wrong and he has shown some kind of proof).



No, there's no proof that Alonso knew the plot...but the first accusation - that the accident was on purpose - was already proven.
#153062
I cant stand the Piquets.



What does Piquet Snr have to do with this crap?

Is this a question or pure sarcasm?



No it's a question...I can't see any guilt on Piquet Snr. in this case...unless clarifying things is wrong.

I'm sure you'll get an earful here - I leave it to the others to enlighten you :wink:




I want someone to show me his guilt on this case. Seriuously...


No one said he was guilty of being involved with the planning of the crash but he does appear to be fueling things now.



Amanda, tell me, if you had a child and his moron boss f***** up with him all the time, wouldn't you help your son to end his boss' career up if you knew some cheating issues about him?
#153065
I cant stand the Piquets.



What does Piquet Snr have to do with this crap?

Is this a question or pure sarcasm?



No it's a question...I can't see any guilt on Piquet Snr. in this case...unless clarifying things is wrong.

I'm sure you'll get an earful here - I leave it to the others to enlighten you :wink:




I want someone to show me his guilt on this case. Seriuously...


No one said he was guilty of being involved with the planning of the crash but he does appear to be fueling things now.



Amanda, tell me, if you had a child and his moron boss f***** up with him all the time, wouldn't you help your son to end his boss' career up if you knew some cheating issues about him?


I wouldn't accuse people without proof. I can understand why he's being protective but he's handling it in the wrong way imo.
#153068
I cant stand the Piquets.



What does Piquet Snr have to do with this crap?

Is this a question or pure sarcasm?



No it's a question...I can't see any guilt on Piquet Snr. in this case...unless clarifying things is wrong.

I'm sure you'll get an earful here - I leave it to the others to enlighten you :wink:




I want someone to show me his guilt on this case. Seriuously...


No one said he was guilty of being involved with the planning of the crash but he does appear to be fueling things now.



Amanda, tell me, if you had a child and his moron boss f***** up with him all the time, wouldn't you help your son to end his boss' career up if you knew some cheating issues about him?


I wouldn't accuse people without proof. I can understand why he's being protective but he's handling it in the wrong way imo.


Neither would I, Im not saying I would accuse people without proof.
But it seems he knows what happened and he wants to clarify things up, so he has asked FIA to investigate the case and get all evidences they want.
#153078
Piquet Snr actually has no right to wander around the various media outlets and shout his mouth off.

He is indirectly involved in the legal proceedings, as I said earlier if this was any other court in the world he'd not be allowed to do that.

Symonds offered race-fix immunity
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78646

By Jonathan Noble Tuesday, September 15th 2009, 06:42 GMT

Pat Symonds and Alan Permane, Singapore, 2008Renault director of engineering Pat Symonds has been offered immunity from punishment by the FIA if he offers full disclosure of the facts surrounding last year's Singapore Grand Prix race-fix allegations.

With less than one week to go before Renault faces the FIA World Motor Sport Council to answer charges that it asked Nelson Piquet to crash deliberately to help Fernando Alonso win, sources have confirmed to AUTOSPORT that Symonds has been given the chance of an amnesty.

The development comes on the back of interviews between Symonds, FIA representatives and members from the Quest agency at the Belgian Grand Prix where it was deemed his evidence was 'central' to finding answers to what happened in Singapore.

In the stewards' report about that interview, a copy of which has been seen by AUTOSPORT, Symonds confirms that the race-day meeting between himself, Briatore and Piquet did take place.

The stewards reports added: "Mr. Symonds accepted that he had discussed with NPJ (Piquet) the possibility of a deliberate crash at the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix, although he said the suggestion was raised by NPJ."

However, Symonds then refused to answer questions about specific allegations about the events that took place that day (see separate story).

It is understood, however, that the reason to offer Symonds immunity has come from the fact that he indicated at the time that he may have further useful information.

The stewards report stated: "Mr. Symonds suggested at his interview on 27 August that he might wish to revert to the Stewards with further information, including information responsive to the various questions he had declined to answer.

"However, no such further information was provided on 27 August. On 28 August, Mr Symonds was summoned back before the Stewards to be asked if he wanted to give further information on the questions he had declined to answer. Mr Symonds again declined to answer the questions."

It is not clear if Symonds has accepted the immunity from punishment offer, but should he do so it means only Renault boss Flavio Briatore will face the FIA's WMSC without any such deal in place. FIA president Max Mosley confirmed at the Italian Grand Prix that Piquet would be exempt too.


Oh well Renault are guilty as charged then. Another tactless attempt by the FIA to remove a rogue figure from within the sport.

If Symond is guilty, like Piquet, he should face the charges just like Briatore.

A shame really, because I think Renault will upsticks and leave now. You can see it can't you? Renault go so they can let BMW-Sauber (or whatever they will call themselves) in.

Again, although it gives us all something to talk about, it is really sad that the case has been basically played out and decided before we have even reached Paris.
#153117
Yeh this is just Max going for Flav to rid of him.

it dosn't matter if Renault are guilty or not now its already been decided.

I'm no fan of Flav but this is utter :bs:

I hope Pat dosn't go for this and supports the team.

as for Piqeut Snr heres how much of a gobby clown he is.

"Fernando knew everything. He couldn't ignore it," Piquet told Spanish newspaper Diario Sport.


What gives him the right to say that, Alonso should sue him for slander.
#153120
Yeh this is just Max going for Flav to rid of him.

it dosn't matter if Renault are guilty or not now its already been decided.

I'm no fan of Flav but this is utter :bs:

I hope Pat dosn't go for this and supports the team.

as for Piqeut Snr heres how much of a gobby clown he is.

"Fernando knew everything. He couldn't ignore it," Piquet told Spanish newspaper Diario Sport.


What gives him the right to say that, Alonso should sue him for slander.


If it isn't true he probly will.But if he doesn't......................who knows
#153135


Amanda, tell me, if you had a child and his moron boss f***** up with him all the time, wouldn't you help your son to end his boss' career up if you knew some cheating issues about him?


Well if daddy needs to protect junior it pretty much shows that he is still the child who cannot live on his own. But if he would be a grown up, you'd assume he to defend himself and so that his got some balls.
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