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[RA Dunk]

I making meself guilty of making this thingy even longer.
Ok come on guys. rules is rules and has to be enforced. if one person is allowed to get away with lil issues like crossing the pit exit line or speeding in the pitlane or overtaking someone by cutting accross a chicane the everybody is going to expect to get away with it. and soon arnarchy rules coz nobody is enforcing the law or rules. only one rules never gets applied - hammie should get a drivethrough penalty if he leads a race for any reason.

Exactly what ive been saying all along, you cant let one off with it cause the next one who does it and dosent get away with it then the bias card is played

[Bladesman]

1st time they have actually given out punishments rightly during a race.

Abit picky yes but they are the rules and hopefully they keep it up and show some consistancy in the future.

Anyway great win for Lewis was hoping he would of won like that in Monza aswell.

[Rivelution]

Here's an intersting factoid. This was the first race Heidfeld retired in since Indianapolis 2007.

[bud]

The white line rule is there to stop drivers gaining an advantage when exiting the pit lane. Rosberg did not gain an advantage infact he lost time by doing what he did! I understand the penalty but i think they could have used common sense on that one.

[Gilles 27]

Here's an intersting factoid. This was the first race Heidfeld retired in since Indianapolis 2007.

Finally that dullard did something interesting in a race, like fail to finish. His most finishes record is the most pathetic record in the history of F1.

[bud]

Here's an intersting factoid. This was the first race Heidfeld retired in since Indianapolis 2007.

Finally that dullard did something interesting in a race, like fail to finish. His most finishes record is the most pathetic record in the history of F1.

how cool is this photo

[Hexagram]

The white line rule is there to stop drivers gaining an advantage when exiting the pit lane. Rosberg did not gain an advantage infact he lost time by doing what he did! I understand the penalty but i think they could have used common sense on that one.

It is there for safety reasons. You cannot have a driver come out of the pits and cut across in front of two other drivers fighting for position. The white line guides drivers out of the pits in a manor that will have them side for side with opposing drivers when they do exit.

That said I can see your point of view but you can't punish one driver and not another for cutting the white line. Badoer in Valencia got a drive threw even though he did it by accident, he actually lost a place and gained no advantage and then in Singapore the stewards decide not punish Rosberg for sliding over it, even if he didn't mean it and gained no advantage?

I know it sucks for Rosberg who was closing in on his first podium of the season but the rules are black and white for cutting the white line, regardless of whether it was intentional or not.

[bud]

haha yourself!

[Amanda]

As much as I wanted to see Rosberg on the podium, that's one of those rules that needs to be kept to the letter in my opinion. You can't start making exceptions otherwise you get complaints about inconsistencies and favouritism and I dare say some drivers would be tempted to test the stewards' limits.

[bud]

As much as I wanted to see Rosberg on the podium, that's one of those rules that needs to be kept to the letter in my opinion. You can't start making exceptions otherwise you get complaints about inconsistencies and favouritism and I dare say some drivers would dare to test the sewards' limits.

its kinda like cutting a chicane intern overtaking another driver but then giving the place back. In that situation there is no penalty given. Rosberg went over the line but then attempted to get back behind it. he didnt gain any time infact he would have lost time in that manouvre!

[JamesD89]

It is there for safety reasons. You cannot have a driver come out of the pits and cut across in front of two other drivers fighting for position. The white line guides drivers out of the pits in a manor that will have them side for side with opposing drivers when they do exit.

That I think is the only arguement - from an advantage/disadvantage point of view, the ruling is definitely unfair. But if he'd shot off into one of the cars coming by, then nobody would have said the drive through was unjust.

I know it sucks for Rosberg who was closing in on his first podium of the season but the rules are black and white for cutting the white line, regardless of whether it was intentional or not.

I don't think anybody is saying the rules were enforced incorrectly. Just that the rules may need changing.

As much as I wanted to see Rosberg on the podium, that's one of those rules that needs to be kept to the letter in my opinion. You can't start making exceptions otherwise you get complaints about inconsistencies and favouritism and I dare say some drivers would dare to test the sewards' limits.

If the rules stated that should the car be disadvantaged, then no penalty would apply, inconsistencies would only occur when the stewards make mistakes. As it stands, the stewards have a reputation for making mistakes already - changing the rule wouldn't worsen the situation.

[Amanda]

As much as I wanted to see Rosberg on the podium, that's one of those rules that needs to be kept to the letter in my opinion. You can't start making exceptions otherwise you get complaints about inconsistencies and favouritism and I dare say some drivers would dare to test the sewards' limits.

If the rules stated that should the car be disadvantaged, then no penalty would apply, inconsistencies would only occur when the stewards make mistakes. As it stands, the stewards have a reputation for making mistakes already - changing the rule wouldn't worsen the situation.

Is that rule entirely about gaining an advantage or is it also about safety? I've always assumed that it's a combination of both. If changing the rules is detrimental to the safety of cars passing and exiting the pits then I don't think it should be changed. Rosberg, and the rest of the drivers, should just be more careful next time.

[JamesD89]

As much as I wanted to see Rosberg on the podium, that's one of those rules that needs to be kept to the letter in my opinion. You can't start making exceptions otherwise you get complaints about inconsistencies and favouritism and I dare say some drivers would dare to test the sewards' limits.

If the rules stated that should the car be disadvantaged, then no penalty would apply, inconsistencies would only occur when the stewards make mistakes. As it stands, the stewards have a reputation for making mistakes already - changing the rule wouldn't worsen the situation.

Is that rule entirely about gaining an advantage or is it also about safety? I've always assumed that it's a combination of both. If changing the rules is detrimental to the safety of cars passing and exiting the pits then I don't think it should be changed. Rosberg, and the rest of the drivers, should just be more careful next time.

That can only be answered by the people who write the rules.

Taking an advantage is dangerous and even under a modified ruling would still be punished. Losing control of the car is also dangerous, but it happens on track without the drivers being subject to penalties. It's racing, things will go wrong regardless of the rules. Even if the penalty for crossing the white line were death by hanging, somebody would inevitably get it eventually.

As such, modifying the rule wouldn't increase or lessen the danger for passing cars.

[AKR]

Who cares, it was boring race. The track being lit up and the beautiful city of Singapore was more interesting than the race itself. I didn't even watch it all. Halfway into the race and I just walked out from watching it (Was with friends). I haven't walked out from a race in years. But this 2009 season has been like that. Even at Monza a few weeks back I was very close at just leaving and not seeing the end had someone I didn't want to win end up winning. Instead his spin and crash right at the end made me want to stay.

[Tony_sa]

Who cares, it was boring race. The track being lit up and the beautiful city of Singapore was more interesting than the race itself. I didn't even watch it all. Halfway into the race and I just walked out from watching it (Was with friends). I haven't walked out from a race in years. But this 2009 season has been like that. Even at Monza a few weeks back I was very close at just leaving and not seeing the end had someone I didn't want to win end up winning. Instead his spin and crash right at the end made me want to stay.