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[f1ea]

ok i get it now. i thought it was a rule, as in "teams must do at least 1 stop to change tires and no more than 3 (to change tires)"....... but its rather a "reasonably out of the question" thing.......

It is just teams and drivers trying to give other teams and drivers the impression that they are in trouble with their tyre management.

is that why all the drivers were complaining??

Yes, it was on Monza! Fantastic driving and strategy...

Yeah that was a good strategy... and i think that drive there put the final nail in the ever-lasting tire's coffin..........

[scotty]

Heidfeld is another man who i think has been completely overlooked with regards to how he works the tyres and his potential for thriving this season as well.

Overlooked??? istnt that what comes up everytime someone mentions him?...
smooth smooth smooth; oh and experience...

I dunno, from what i've seen he's usually just mentioned as Mr Consistency...

Yes Heidfeld has helped develop the tyres, he could be a dark horse this year.
On Alonso, I remember reading somethig about him at the beginning of 2007. In practise for the season he was faster than Lewis (the car was running on rubber from the previous season) but when the season started Lewis was as fast, sometimes faster. I cant remember anymore than that about what the difference in the characteristics of the tyres was. So not sure how it translates to the current change.

At the beggining of '07 Michelin had just left, perhaps this is what you are alluding to, ie Alonso was running on Michelins in testing (for whatever reason, i haven't heard this fact before myself!).

edit - colour markings revealed, best get these memorised

Pirelli has announced the colours that it will use to distinguish the six different types of tyre to be used during the 2011 season.

Each tyre will carry its own colouring on the Pirelli and PZero logos affixed to the sidewall.

The six colours are as follows:

Wet - orange
Intermediate - light blue
Supersoft - red
Soft – yellow
Medium – white
Hard – silver

"We're very excited by the prospect of returning to Formula 1 for the first time in 20 years, and we're aiming to be a proactive and colourful partner in Formula 1," said Pirelli's Paul Hembery. "So what better way to symbolise this than a brightly coloured selection of Pirelli logos to run on the sidewalls?

"These will enable both live and television audiences to tell at a glance who is on what compounds, which will be vital knowledge as tyres are set to form a key part of race strategy this year."

Pirelli will take the hard and soft compounds to the first three races of the season, meaning that silver and yellow tyres will be first to make an appearance in Australia.

[racechick]

On Alonso, I remember reading somethig about him at the beginning of 2007. In practise for the season he was faster than Lewis (the car was running on rubber from the previous season) but when the season started Lewis was as fast, sometimes faster. I cant remember anymore than that about what the difference in the characteristics of the tyres was. So not sure how it translates to the current change.

At the beggining of '07 Michelin had just left, perhaps this is what you are alluding to, ie Alonso was running on Michelins in testing (for whatever reason, i haven't heard this fact before myself!).

Yes that will be what id read about. So if Alonso was better on the Michelins and lewis better on the Bridgestones (supposing the difference was nothing to do with a rookie getting the hang of things). how does that translate into this years tyre change?

[scotty]

On Alonso, I remember reading somethig about him at the beginning of 2007. In practise for the season he was faster than Lewis (the car was running on rubber from the previous season) but when the season started Lewis was as fast, sometimes faster. I cant remember anymore than that about what the difference in the characteristics of the tyres was. So not sure how it translates to the current change.

At the beggining of '07 Michelin had just left, perhaps this is what you are alluding to, ie Alonso was running on Michelins in testing (for whatever reason, i haven't heard this fact before myself!).

Yes that will be what id read about. So if Alonso was better on the Michelins and lewis better on the Bridgestones (supposing the difference was nothing to do with a rookie getting the hang of things). how does that translate into this years tyre change?

Hard to compare exactly, they're all fundamentally different tyres given the grooves and the fact that tyre-war era tyres were so soft and incredibly grippy, and the ability to deal with the 'graining phase' was so important at that time. This aspect was reduced, to an extent, from 2007 onwards. I can't remember all the exact ins and outs of that now though, it was a good few years ago (scary thought, still seems like yesterday...!). Plus we never saw Hamilton run on Michelins. Finally, there's no doubt that both driver's styles have advanced and matured since '07 so it just clouds the picture even more for me. So, like everything else surrounding this season at the moment, there seem to be far more questions than answers and the more anwers you try to find, the more questions are raised... quite infuriating!

[racechick]

On Alonso, I remember reading somethig about him at the beginning of 2007. In practise for the season he was faster than Lewis (the car was running on rubber from the previous season) but when the season started Lewis was as fast, sometimes faster. I cant remember anymore than that about what the difference in the characteristics of the tyres was. So not sure how it translates to the current change.

At the beggining of '07 Michelin had just left, perhaps this is what you are alluding to, ie Alonso was running on Michelins in testing (for whatever reason, i haven't heard this fact before myself!).

Yes that will be what id read about. So if Alonso was better on the Michelins and lewis better on the Bridgestones (supposing the difference was nothing to do with a rookie getting the hang of things). how does that translate into this years tyre change?

Hard to compare exactly, they're all fundamentally different tyres given the grooves and the fact that tyre-war era tyres were so soft and incredibly grippy, and the ability to deal with the 'graining phase' was so important at that time. This aspect was reduced, to an extent, from 2007 onwards. I can't remember all the exact ins and outs of that now though, it was a good few years ago (scary thought, still seems like yesterday...!). Plus we never saw Hamilton run on Michelins. Finally, there's no doubt that both driver's styles have advanced and matured since '07 so it just clouds the picture even more for me. So, like everything else surrounding this season at the moment, there seem to be far more questions than answers and the more anwers you try to find, the more questions are raised... quite infuriating!

Yes. i guess we'll have to wait am see.

[Hexagram]

On Alonso, I remember reading somethig about him at the beginning of 2007. In practise for the season he was faster than Lewis (the car was running on rubber from the previous season) but when the season started Lewis was as fast, sometimes faster. I cant remember anymore than that about what the difference in the characteristics of the tyres was. So not sure how it translates to the current change.

At the beggining of '07 Michelin had just left, perhaps this is what you are alluding to, ie Alonso was running on Michelins in testing (for whatever reason, i haven't heard this fact before myself!).

Yes that will be what id read about. So if Alonso was better on the Michelins and lewis better on the Bridgestones (supposing the difference was nothing to do with a rookie getting the hang of things). how does that translate into this years tyre change?

Some drivers will adjust quicker either naturally or via previous experience. Or maybe a combination of both will be required. It's inevitable though that these new tyres from Pirelli will suit some drivers better than others.

Who though, is the question.

I would imagine that the likes of Hamilton/Koby will struggle with the change since they seem to wear their tyres out more than others with their aggressive driving style but in Abu Dhabi Hamilton seemed to cope rather well with his tyres graining and in the Japanese GP Koby went really far into the race on the same set of tyres.

So it really is guessing to see who is going to do better until we get a few races into the season.

[Jensonb]

edit - colour markings revealed, best get these memorised

Pirelli has announced the colours that it will use to distinguish the six different types of tyre to be used during the 2011 season.

Each tyre will carry its own colouring on the Pirelli and PZero logos affixed to the sidewall.

The six colours are as follows:

Wet - orange
Intermediate - light blue
Supersoft - red
Soft – yellow
Medium – white
Hard – silver

"We're very excited by the prospect of returning to Formula 1 for the first time in 20 years, and we're aiming to be a proactive and colourful partner in Formula 1," said Pirelli's Paul Hembery. "So what better way to symbolise this than a brightly coloured selection of Pirelli logos to run on the sidewalls?

"These will enable both live and television audiences to tell at a glance who is on what compounds, which will be vital knowledge as tyres are set to form a key part of race strategy this year."

Pirelli will take the hard and soft compounds to the first three races of the season, meaning that silver and yellow tyres will be first to make an appearance in Australia.

Hmm, Medium & Hard are too similar to ever be used at the same event...Looks like the gap between compounds is permanent.

[darwin dali]

Heidfeld is another man who i think has been completely overlooked with regards to how he works the tyres and his potential for thriving this season as well.

Overlooked??? istnt that what comes up everytime someone mentions him?...
smooth smooth smooth; oh and experience...

I dunno, from what i've seen he's usually just mentioned as Mr Consistency...

Yes Heidfeld has helped develop the tyres, he could be a dark horse this year.
On Alonso, I remember reading somethig about him at the beginning of 2007. In practise for the season he was faster than Lewis (the car was running on rubber from the previous season) but when the season started Lewis was as fast, sometimes faster. I cant remember anymore than that about what the difference in the characteristics of the tyres was. So not sure how it translates to the current change.

At the beggining of '07 Michelin had just left, perhaps this is what you are alluding to, ie Alonso was running on Michelins in testing (for whatever reason, i haven't heard this fact before myself!).

edit - colour markings revealed, best get these memorised

Pirelli has announced the colours that it will use to distinguish the six different types of tyre to be used during the 2011 season.

Each tyre will carry its own colouring on the Pirelli and PZero logos affixed to the sidewall.

The six colours are as follows:

Wet - orange
Intermediate - light blue
Supersoft - red
Soft – yellow
Medium – white
Hard – silver

"We're very excited by the prospect of returning to Formula 1 for the first time in 20 years, and we're aiming to be a proactive and colourful partner in Formula 1," said Pirelli's Paul Hembery. "So what better way to symbolise this than a brightly coloured selection of Pirelli logos to run on the sidewalls?

"These will enable both live and television audiences to tell at a glance who is on what compounds, which will be vital knowledge as tyres are set to form a key part of race strategy this year."

Pirelli will take the hard and soft compounds to the first three races of the season, meaning that silver and yellow tyres will be first to make an appearance in Australia.

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[spankyham]

I think the current rule is there needs to be a gap between compounds

[f1ea]

How come there's no GREEN??
Does that mean the trend is over?

They should change the silver to green. Even with the compound gap, why use such similar colors

[vlad]

They don't want to have any similar things with Bridgestone...

[darwin dali]

How about?
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[Hammer278]

4 different compounds for dry to memorize? And then we have the overtaking zone...and KERS...and...

This should be made into a book "F1 for IDIOTS", and distributed among all the fans for free!

[vlad]

It's going to be a little harder than usual, but, I think we'll get over it...

@darwin dali

How about Deep Purple?

[What's Burning?]

4 different compounds for dry to memorize? And then we have the overtaking zone...and KERS...and...

This should be made into a book "F1 for IDIOTS", and distributed among all the fans for free!

You wuss... it's not THAT bad, we only have to remember two compounds at a time, and the SS and Med colors are distinct between the two, and so are the S and H compounds. I think they went a little over the top for the wet compounds though.

And you know we'll have the bevy of graphics on telemetry displayed on screen, and the broadcasters will repeat the same thing about what each of the graphics mean for at least the first 10 races...

See it's not so bad.