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[oaba09]

There is no #1 driver in mclaren...Throughout the whole season, they have proved that they let their drivers race...

I just laugh when people try downplay Jenson's achievements....It seems like every good performance that he does is labeled as "lucky". He has proven that he can overtake(from last place to 1st place), he has proven that he can read track conditions well multiple times, he has proven that he can win a championship, and he has proven that he's a good strategist.

[LewEngBridewell]

There is no #1 driver in mclaren...Throughout the whole season, they have proved that they let their drivers race...

I just laugh when people try downplay Jenson's achievements....It seems like every good performance that he does is labeled as "lucky". He has proven that he can overtake(from last place to 1st place), he has proven that he can read track conditions well multiple times, he has proven that he can win a championship, and he has proven that he's a good strategist.

[vaptin]

Not blown away by this race.

Vettel races away to another win, not even that excited by his pass on Alonso, he was way faster than him anyway.

Solid race from Jenson, he's made more overtakes than anyone this year, and still has been making very few mistakes. Just seems to be fully hooked up with McLaren now, and is enjoying taking it race by race in a fairly competitive car. Lot of sour grapes on here about how he's ahead of Lewis in the championship, stop being so damn insecure about it guys, Jenson has done well, you can't slate him for being behind Lewis then say it's nothing special when he's ahead.

Schumacher, well he is looking competitive again, at the level we were all looking for when he came back, no one was after or expecting domination, just wanted to see him mixing it up with the newer drivers. But although his physical attitude to driving has changed, he never lost that mental edge on track, the lack of a little voice that says slow down or back off;your going too far. He refuses to give up, it wasn't that bad with Hamilton today, but no other driver would've defended how Schumacher did for so long I think. But that is probably what is needed to win so many championships.

The rules we're looking at are subjective really, more did he go too far, then X has happened, therefore a punishment is in order.

It's make your mind up time though, at the start of the season, we saw strict punishment on moves like this, they've been seriously laxed recently though (for all drivers as far as I can see it was strict at the start and laxer later on, not going for this Hamilton has it worse and is victimised, he just feels that way but its correlation due to him being involved in more collisions) which is better? I agree I'd like consistency throughout the season though, or at least a formal statement of change.

Pity for the drivers who were wiped out at the start though, and for Massa who seems to keep getting bad luck lately. Talking about the start, another good one by Schumacher and Alonso. But if the inherent pace of the car isn't there, you won't stay ahead for long (although in Alonso's case Hamilton was held up long enough, not all luck though, Alonso jumped Hamilton at the start and Hamilton was caught out at the restart).

It's looking good back in the midfield though, it's tight and a pretty large amount of promising drivers learning the ropes.

[vlad]

Haha! You really hate Vettel...

[vaptin]

Haha! You really hate Vettel...

Not really, just hoping race wins will be more competitive, not faulting Vettel you know.

[myownalias]

There is no #1 driver in mclaren...Throughout the whole season, they have proved that they let their drivers race...

I just laugh when people try downplay Jenson's achievements....It seems like every good performance that he does is labeled as "lucky". He has proven that he can overtake(from last place to 1st place), he has proven that he can read track conditions well multiple times, he has proven that he can win a championship, and he has proven that he's a good strategist.

Well said I have been getting increasingly fed up with this attitude; when Lewis wins, it's a great drive, when Jenson wins, he's lucky, give the man the credit he is due!!!

Below is my write-up on the Italian GP lifted straight from my blog:

Sebastian Vettel has almost wrapped up his second world title with a dominant win at Monza. But it wasn’t a lights to flag victory for the German, Fernando Alonso jumped from fourth to lead the race into the first corner. Vettel came back at Alonso using all the track and some grass to get the move done, which was vital for the German to run and hide to take the chequered flag.

Lewis Hamilton had a tough day being badly held up by Michael Schumacher, the German using some dodgy tactics to keep the Briton behind forcing Hamilton off the road which allowed Jenson Button to pass his team mate. Button went on to overtake Schumacher much easier than Hamilton to move upto third place. Hamilton went onto finish the race in fourth place just 0.5 seconds behind Alonso, after being held up behind Schumacher a second time after the pit stop shake up. McLaren team mate Button drove fantastically to finish the race on the second step of the podium after overtaking Alonso in the last third of the race, there was no lack of aggression from Button at this GP, especially after having such a poor start dropping back as far as seventh off the line!

Despite his dubious tactics, Schumacher had a strong race to finish in fifth place, Michael is an old school driver and I believe these new rules stifle racing, the ‘only one defensive move’ rule particularly, a penalty would have been harsh! Felipe Massa brought the second Ferrari home in sixth place and was the last of the runners to finish on the lead lap. Jaime Alguersuari, Paul di Resta, Bruno Senna and Sebastien Buemi round out the points paying positions. Senna did well to finish ninth after being involved in the first corner incident which took four drivers out of the race. Great drives from from Toro Rosso’s Alguersuari and Buemi finishing seventh and tenth for a double score for STR while Force India’s di Resta moved up from 11th to eighth, kept out of trouble, drove sensibly and claimed three points for himself and the team, very mature drive.

The scary thing is that Sebastian Vettel can win the world drivers title at the next race in Singapore with five races to spare, which just goes to show the German’s dominance this season; albeit with a little help from the Adrian Newey designed RB7. Doing a little mathematics (math has never been my strong point, so this maybe completely wrong); if Vettel wins; Fernando Alonso would need to finish third and/or Jenson Button/Mark Webber would need to finish second to keep the title race alive, but realistically it would be delaying the inevitable, the RB7 and Vettel have been supreme this season! This season is now all about the race to be best of the rest, with the way Button has been driving recently, you wouldn’t bet against him finishing second!

Finally, I missed out Mark Webber, who had a coming together with Fernando Alonso on lap four; in which the Australian lost his front wing and in his hurry to get back to the pits crashed out because of the lack of front end downforce, a silly mistake that has been costly for Webber. Overall it was a great race; lots of good racing, even if Lewis Hamilton looked subdued, not taking any risks and apparently was in need of some encouragement from his team to chase down Alonso near the end, even his post race interview was really subdued, gone are the days of being outspoken. His body language would suggest he is not very happy, maybe with the team, maybe with his own mental state; being beaten by his team mate first and foremost and not being able to challenge for regular wins has really gotten him down. I have been outspoken about Lewis Hamilton’s actions, more off the track in front of TV cameras than anything but now everything that made him great has disappeared ontrack. Lewis says he doesn’t care what others think of him and he wouldn’t change his style seems to be more for the media as he clearly has changed his driving style, he would never had sat behind Schumacher for a dozen laps three or four races ago!

[FRAFPDD]

Nice blog, think youve overreacted in the last section, anyone would have sat behind Schumacher like Hamilton did after repeated chops and that, Hamilton still tried though, he just couldnt get past simple as.

Dont know what else seemed so subdued, if nobody else had noticed he was actually locked in wheels with vettel at the race start, ithought itd end in tragedy for all three.

I get the impression youve wrote down what you subsconsciously hope will be the case MOA, that Hamilton loses the spark and Jenson can finish ahead of him more consisntely, i just think a fourth place almost third given the circumstances, and who it was that was blocking Hamilton led him to be cautious.

His only mistake was being caught napping at the safety car phase.

[LewEngBridewell]

Good blog myownalias!

Yes, the race was really enjoyable today I thought. The fact that the lead was unchallenged after Vettel fought brilliantly past Alonso early on was more than made up for by the amount of race action, battles and overtaking.

[Ineluke]

Not blown away by this race.

Vettel races away to another win, not even that excited by his pass on Alonso, he was way faster than him anyway.

Solid race from Jenson, he's made more overtakes than anyone this year, and still has been making very few mistakes. Just seems to be fully hooked up with McLaren now, and is enjoying taking it race by race in a fairly competitive car. Lot of sour grapes on here about how he's ahead of Lewis in the championship, stop being so damn insecure about it guys, Jenson has done well, you can't slate him for being behind Lewis then say it's nothing special when he's ahead.

Schumacher, well he is looking competitive again, at the level we were all looking for when he came back, no one was after or expecting domination, just wanted to see him mixing it up with the newer drivers. But although his physical attitude to driving has changed, he never lost that mental edge on track, the lack of a little voice that says slow down or back off;your going too far. He refuses to give up, it wasn't that bad with Hamilton today, but no other driver would've defended how Schumacher did for so long I think. But that is probably what is needed to win so many championships.

The rules we're looking at are subjective really, more did he go too far, then X has happened, therefore a punishment is in order.

It's make your mind up time though, at the start of the season, we saw strict punishment on moves like this, they've been seriously laxed recently though (for all drivers as far as I can see it was strict at the start and laxer later on, not going for this Hamilton has it worse and is victimised, he just feels that way but its correlation due to him being involved in more collisions) which is better? I agree I'd like consistency throughout the season though, or at least a formal statement of change.

Pity for the drivers who were wiped out at the start though, and for Massa who seems to keep getting bad luck lately. Talking about the start, another good one by Schumacher and Alonso. But if the inherent pace of the car isn't there, you won't stay ahead for long (although in Alonso's case Hamilton was held up long enough, not all luck though, Alonso jumped Hamilton at the start and Hamilton was caught out at the restart).

It's looking good back in the midfield though, it's tight and a pretty large amount of promising drivers learning the ropes.

It's not sour grapes at all lol,the season is not over yet. My problem is the press and bbc declaring Jensen as leader because he is ahead of Lewis by 9 points. Now i find it strange that they didn't declare Lewis as team leader two races ago when he was in the lead or last year when he came ahead of his teammate.

Now Schumacher clearly broke the rules more than once while defending against Lewis but got away with it. You really think that if it was Lewis or if Schumacher had been doing the same to Jensen the BBC wouldn't be up in arms.

Ill say it again that the bbc/british press are setting up Jensen to look like an idiot if he does not come in front of Lewis.

[LewEngBridewell]

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[Ineluke]

Being constantly put down by the press is enough to break anyone's spirit but he will bounce back.

What makes me laugh is the season is not over yet and Jensen is only 9 points ahead,anything could happen. I would say to the bbc and Jensen fans to not get to carried away yet because it could turn out to be an egg on your face situation.

[myownalias]

Nice blog, think youve overreacted in the last section, anyone would have sat behind Schumacher like Hamilton did after repeated chops and that, Hamilton still tried though, he just couldnt get past simple as.

Dont know what else seemed so subdued, if nobody else had noticed he was actually locked in wheels with vettel at the race start, ithought itd end in tragedy for all three.

I get the impression youve wrote down what you subsconsciously hope will be the case MOA, that Hamilton loses the spark and Jenson can finish ahead of him more consisntely, i just think a fourth place almost third given the circumstances, and who it was that was blocking Hamilton led him to be cautious.

His only mistake was being caught napping at the safety car phase.

Fair enough; the blog is my opinion and it will be biased towards the drivers I support, I make no bones about that! My point is that a few races ago; Lewis would have been making lunges down the inside, outside and on the grass, Lewis was much more cautious, yes Schumacher made some very dodgy moves but I wouldn't say it was completely unfair; I believe F1 needs more action like that; get rid of the 'make only one defensive move' rule; stop penalising drivers for racing incidents, the Schumacher/Lewis battle was very exciting to watch, I want more of that!

When a McLaren source tells the BBC that Lewis needed to be encouraged to chase down Alonso; something is not right!

[vlad]

It is the right tome for Lewis Hamilton to shine once again! I think he has sorted out his issues and is ready to win the next race!

[LewEngBridewell]

When a McLaren source tells the BBC that Lewis needed to be encouraged to chase down Alonso; something is not right!

I'm sure he'll be back to his old self again soon. A race win or a little time to clear his head and he'll be right as rain again.

[vaptin]

Did you see the pre-race coverage? Jenson made a joke, when asked who is the team leader at McLaren, he said "I am", and if you asked Lewis he'd say "he is"". Then they made it a reoccurring joke I guess, picking up on Jenson doing well over Lewis a bit more because to be fair it is kinda unexpected.

Like how Massa got marked out that time he out qualified Alonso this year, think even people on here mentioned it. Cultural thing I guess, picking up and commenting on the unexpected whilst letting the usual slide past your notice. Say, work out statistically, what most people die off, then look at a newspaper, how many stories about death are about a common death?

I don't think Lewis gets missed out on praise, I've noticed him being praised plenty of times on the BBC coverage.