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#217911
I'm pretty sure McLaren will be fast in Japan. And it's a driver track, expect Lewis and Alonso to be up there matching the Redbulls. And Lewis to win, because he's just better than Alonso. :D
#217922
Now, i am pretty adamant that Red Bull will be very fast with all those medium-high speed corners despite the flexi rule changes (i just don't think Monza or Singapore are tracks that really painted a true picture of the effects of the change, or lack thereof). Yet at the same time i am totally expecting Alonso to show them up again. :scratchchin:

I think we're due a wet race at Suzuka, i can't remember the last time we had one! :wink:


Yep, totally agree with you. I think it will be a RBR 1-2 with Vettel winning and cutting the points deficit to webber to 14 points. Mclaren should do better than Ferrari there (hopefully), but i am scared a bit by that recent development rate of the Scuderia. Expect Kobayashi to do well, as it is a track that suits the Sauber most of all tracks and he will want to shine infront of his home crowd. Looking forward to those banzai moves of his.
#217927
Although Ferrari are talking down their expected performance in Japan, I think they will be right up there. A third win is on the cards.

I posted some pics (in the SingGP thread) of the updates SF brought. They seemed very focused on down-force, and from the qualifying and race performance they were pretty successful.

A further look into some of the Singapore race data seems to indicate SF should have a positive run over the next 4 races. Firstly, Nando absolutely blitzed Sector2 all race and in qualifying, he was consistently 2-3 tenths faster than the next guy. Sector3 was pretty much the same although Seb was able to keep a little closer, it was usually 1-2 tenths. Sector1, was almost the opposite, Seb being 2-3 tenths faster than Nando. Sector1 is the straight and another longish stretch in Singapore, but remember, Nando didn't run with an F-Duct in Singapore. The speed trap showed Seb constantly had a significantly higher top speed. In fact, Nando was only 12th on the speed trap list while Seb was 2nd only to Kubica.

Sectors 2 & 3 being so positive for Nando tell the real story for me. Firstly it shows the F10 has possibly moved into the lead in terms of down-force and grip - ahead of the RB6. The updates SF have added seem to be working very well. The story could possibly get better though for the Maranello outfit. There was almost no testing of those new parts fitted in Singapore, meaning, they are probably going to get better with some testing and tuning. Hopefully they can get some meaningful testing done on Friday in Japan.

Red Bull will be strong, for sure and they will be stung by being beaten on a circuit they would have penciled in a 1-2 victory at.

McLaren really have some dilemmas to resolve. What do they do with that new front bling-wing. It looks great, but, should they go back to the tried and true or push ahead with the new concept. On top of that, I think they are really struggling with their blown diffuser (BD). Their rear suspension just doesn't lend itself to fitting the BD. And listening to the obvious engine revs overrun they have, they are really having to push to the limit to get enough exhaust gases running through to make it actually work. That also can't be great for the engine.
#217934
BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GIVE WEBBER SOME BAD LUCK! ( and alonso is theres any spare)


I'm pretty sure McLaren will be fast in Japan. And it's a driver track, expect Lewis and Alonso to be up there matching the Redbulls. And Lewis to win, because he's just better than Alonso. :D


Plus the quotes on this style: "Anyone for the win BUT Alonso... he's somehow managed to drive 2 good races and now all the fanboys are calling him the best"

Vs.

Although Ferrari are talking down their expected performance in Japan, I think they will be right up there. A third win is on the cards.

I posted some pics (in the SingGP thread) of the updates SF brought. They seemed very focused on down-force, and from the qualifying and race performance they were pretty successful.

A further look into some of the Singapore race data seems to indicate SF should have a positive run over the next 4 races. Firstly, Nando absolutely blitzed Sector2 all race and in qualifying, he was consistently 2-3 tenths faster than the next guy. Sector3 was pretty much the same although Seb was able to keep a little closer, it was usually 1-2 tenths. Sector1, was almost the opposite, Seb being 2-3 tenths faster than Nando. Sector1 is the straight and another longish stretch in Singapore, but remember, Nando didn't run with an F-Duct in Singapore. The speed trap showed Seb constantly had a significantly higher top speed. In fact, Nando was only 12th on the speed trap list while Seb was 2nd only to Kubica.

Sectors 2 & 3 being so positive for Nando tell the real story for me. Firstly it shows the F10 has possibly moved into the lead in terms of down-force and grip - ahead of the RB6. The updates SF have added seem to be working very well. The story could possibly get better though for the Maranello outfit. There was almost no testing of those new parts fitted in Singapore, meaning, they are probably going to get better with some testing and tuning. Hopefully they can get some meaningful testing done on Friday in Japan.

Red Bull will be strong, for sure and they will be stung by being beaten on a circuit they would have penciled in a 1-2 victory at.

McLaren really have some dilemmas to resolve. What do they do with that new front bling-wing. It looks great, but, should they go back to the tried and true or push ahead with the new concept. On top of that, I think they are really struggling with their blown diffuser (BD). Their rear suspension just doesn't lend itself to fitting the BD. And listening to the obvious engine revs overrun they have, they are really having to push to the limit to get enough exhaust gases running through to make it actually work. That also can't be great for the engine.


:wavey:
#217937
BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GIVE WEBBER SOME BAD LUCK! ( and alonso is theres any spare)


I'm pretty sure McLaren will be fast in Japan. And it's a driver track, expect Lewis and Alonso to be up there matching the Redbulls. And Lewis to win, because he's just better than Alonso. :D


Plus the quotes on this style: "Anyone for the win BUT Alonso... he's somehow managed to drive 2 good races and now all the fanboys are calling him the best"

Vs.

Although Ferrari are talking down their expected performance in Japan, I think they will be right up there. A third win is on the cards.

I posted some pics (in the SingGP thread) of the updates SF brought. They seemed very focused on down-force, and from the qualifying and race performance they were pretty successful.

A further look into some of the Singapore race data seems to indicate SF should have a positive run over the next 4 races. Firstly, Nando absolutely blitzed Sector2 all race and in qualifying, he was consistently 2-3 tenths faster than the next guy. Sector3 was pretty much the same although Seb was able to keep a little closer, it was usually 1-2 tenths. Sector1, was almost the opposite, Seb being 2-3 tenths faster than Nando. Sector1 is the straight and another longish stretch in Singapore, but remember, Nando didn't run with an F-Duct in Singapore. The speed trap showed Seb constantly had a significantly higher top speed. In fact, Nando was only 12th on the speed trap list while Seb was 2nd only to Kubica.

Sectors 2 & 3 being so positive for Nando tell the real story for me. Firstly it shows the F10 has possibly moved into the lead in terms of down-force and grip - ahead of the RB6. The updates SF have added seem to be working very well. The story could possibly get better though for the Maranello outfit. There was almost no testing of those new parts fitted in Singapore, meaning, they are probably going to get better with some testing and tuning. Hopefully they can get some meaningful testing done on Friday in Japan.

Red Bull will be strong, for sure and they will be stung by being beaten on a circuit they would have penciled in a 1-2 victory at.

McLaren really have some dilemmas to resolve. What do they do with that new front bling-wing. It looks great, but, should they go back to the tried and true or push ahead with the new concept. On top of that, I think they are really struggling with their blown diffuser (BD). Their rear suspension just doesn't lend itself to fitting the BD. And listening to the obvious engine revs overrun they have, they are really having to push to the limit to get enough exhaust gases running through to make it actually work. That also can't be great for the engine.


:wavey:


I dont understand your post? Would i be correct in calculating that you, not a fan of Hamilton, have agreed with the post of someone, who also isnt a fan of Hamilton, and against the posts of two people who are fans of Hamilton....Now where have i heard this before......

The fact ive never seen a spankyham post that hasnt talked lowly of Ferraris chances shows how seriously they can be taken, Especially cause its full of "subtle" little golden nuggets of Nando worship: " Nando absolutely bltized" " consisntely faster then the next guy" "but remember Nando didnt run with an F-duct in Singapore" " sectors 2and 3 being so positive for Fernando tell the story for me" its basically a "well hidden" (had a little chuckle writing that" agenda filling self-convincing post. Not least because Ferrari themselves said Suzuka wont suit them :rolleyes:
#217938
I dont understand your post? Would i be correct in calculating that you, not a fan of Hamilton, have agreed with the post of someone, who also isnt a fan of Hamilton, and against the posts of two people who are fans of Hamilton....Now where have i heard this before......

The fact ive never seen a spankyham post that hasnt talked lowly of Ferraris chances shows how seriously they can be taken, Especially cause its full of "subtle" little golden nuggets of Nando worship: " Nando absolutely bltized" " consisntely faster then the next guy" "but remember Nando didnt run with an F-duct in Singapore" " sectors 2and 3 being so positive for Fernando tell the story for me" its basically a "well hidden" (had a little chuckle writing that" agenda filling self-convincing post. Not least because Ferrari themselves said Suzuka wont suit them


Calculate what you want. Let us know when you have some conclusions from your calculations instead of diligently looking for 'fails' in other's opinions to try and elevate your own... btw, I havent read your opinion, do you even have one?
#217942
He's got a didactic flair, when you read between the lines it's quite hilarious.


literary license.... ;)


I know... you've really enjoyed Spanky's style from the onset! For me it's been more of an acquired taste.
#217943
I dont understand your post? Would i be correct in calculating that you, not a fan of Hamilton, have agreed with the post of someone, who also isnt a fan of Hamilton, and against the posts of two people who are fans of Hamilton....Now where have i heard this before......

The fact ive never seen a spankyham post that hasnt talked lowly of Ferraris chances shows how seriously they can be taken, Especially cause its full of "subtle" little golden nuggets of Nando worship: " Nando absolutely bltized" " consisntely faster then the next guy" "but remember Nando didnt run with an F-duct in Singapore" " sectors 2and 3 being so positive for Fernando tell the story for me" its basically a "well hidden" (had a little chuckle writing that" agenda filling self-convincing post. Not least because Ferrari themselves said Suzuka wont suit them


Calculate what you want. Let us know when you have some conclusions from your calculations instead of diligently looking for 'fails' in other's opinions to try and elevate your own... btw, I havent read your opinion, do you even have one?


If you mean my opinion on Suzuka (which is what the thread is for, not Saint Alonso) then i think red bull will easily own it, Ferrari and Mclaren i dont have any idea of who will be second best, Monza and Singapore were not really good tracks to judge on upgrades cause they are unique, these races should show the real picture, and that picture probably shows RB smiling. To suggest Ferrari have now overtaken RB is absurd, epeciallywhen Ferrari are good on brakeing and traction and still Vettel kept up with Nando all the race, deciding not to try and pass him, They will run riot in Suzuka unless they hit each other (red bulls)
#217944
If you mean my opinion on Suzuka (which is what the thread is for, not Saint Alonso) then i think red bull will easily own it, Ferrari and Mclaren i dont have any idea of who will be second best, Monza and Singapore were not really good tracks to judge on upgrades cause they are unique, these races should show the real picture, and that picture probably shows RB smiling. To suggest Ferrari have now overtaken RB is absurd, epeciallywhen Ferrari are good on brakeing and traction and still Vettel kept up with Nando all the race, deciding not to try and pass him, They will run riot in Suzuka unless they hit each other (red bulls)


There you go, just erase the bold part (because, if you go and read up, you will find it was you who brought St. Alonso aboard), and you've got yourself a normal post. Keep it like that you will not have to spend 5 pages explaining how you're not a racist or a fanboy. :wink:
#217950
BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GIVE WEBBER SOME BAD LUCK! ( and alonso is theres any spare)


I'm pretty sure McLaren will be fast in Japan. And it's a driver track, expect Lewis and Alonso to be up there matching the Redbulls. And Lewis to win, because he's just better than Alonso. :D


Plus the quotes on this style: "Anyone for the win BUT Alonso... he's somehow managed to drive 2 good races and now all the fanboys are calling him the best"

Vs.

Although Ferrari are talking down their expected performance in Japan, I think they will be right up there. A third win is on the cards.

I posted some pics (in the SingGP thread) of the updates SF brought. They seemed very focused on down-force, and from the qualifying and race performance they were pretty successful.

A further look into some of the Singapore race data seems to indicate SF should have a positive run over the next 4 races. Firstly, Nando absolutely blitzed Sector2 all race and in qualifying, he was consistently 2-3 tenths faster than the next guy. Sector3 was pretty much the same although Seb was able to keep a little closer, it was usually 1-2 tenths. Sector1, was almost the opposite, Seb being 2-3 tenths faster than Nando. Sector1 is the straight and another longish stretch in Singapore, but remember, Nando didn't run with an F-Duct in Singapore. The speed trap showed Seb constantly had a significantly higher top speed. In fact, Nando was only 12th on the speed trap list while Seb was 2nd only to Kubica.

Sectors 2 & 3 being so positive for Nando tell the real story for me. Firstly it shows the F10 has possibly moved into the lead in terms of down-force and grip - ahead of the RB6. The updates SF have added seem to be working very well. The story could possibly get better though for the Maranello outfit. There was almost no testing of those new parts fitted in Singapore, meaning, they are probably going to get better with some testing and tuning. Hopefully they can get some meaningful testing done on Friday in Japan.

Red Bull will be strong, for sure and they will be stung by being beaten on a circuit they would have penciled in a 1-2 victory at.

McLaren really have some dilemmas to resolve. What do they do with that new front bling-wing. It looks great, but, should they go back to the tried and true or push ahead with the new concept. On top of that, I think they are really struggling with their blown diffuser (BD). Their rear suspension just doesn't lend itself to fitting the BD. And listening to the obvious engine revs overrun they have, they are really having to push to the limit to get enough exhaust gases running through to make it actually work. That also can't be great for the engine.


:wavey:


Seriously f1ea, how much is spankyham paying you? Or is he throwing you slices of ham for dinner every night perhaps? Maybe we could set up a forum for spankyham's fans, these Ferrari fans seem to have fallen in love with him!

Normally, we do not have to post in large block paragraphs going around in circles and made up bullsh*t, its straight to the point what we feel and what could happen. Quality, not quantity mate.
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#217951
If you mean my opinion on Suzuka (which is what the thread is for, not Saint Alonso) then i think red bull will easily own it, Ferrari and Mclaren i dont have any idea of who will be second best, Monza and Singapore were not really good tracks to judge on upgrades cause they are unique, these races should show the real picture, and that picture probably shows RB smiling. To suggest Ferrari have now overtaken RB is absurd, epeciallywhen Ferrari are good on brakeing and traction and still Vettel kept up with Nando all the race, deciding not to try and pass him, They will run riot in Suzuka unless they hit each other (red bulls)


There you go, just erase the bold part (because, if you go and read up, you will find it was you who brought St. Alonso aboard), and you've got yourself a normal post. Keep it like that you will not have to spend 5 pages explaining how you're not a racist or a fanboy. :wink:


Thanks for the backhanded advice i guess.... as for "keep it like that" it had been like that until inevitably someone had to shut someone else up for writing post that led me to believe they belong in an institution for the pure random drivel they would talk about. Ill keep it quiet in the future (i can tell someones gonna pounce on that as a mark of "defeat", i just dont want to get in any trouble where its not needed.)
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