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[myownalias]

The main reason I dislike Alonso and/or Ferrari is that neither are exactly beyond reproach, breaking the rules and getting away with it for the most part, wherever Alonso goes scandal is sure to follow if you look at his F1 career... hence the Ferrari International Assistance moniker that was given to the FIA! I'm not necessarily pro-McLaren or Lewis Hamilton, my favourite driver is Jenson Button and has been since he started out in a Williams 11 years ago. I want to see good racing no matter who wins without all the drama; Ferrari are, in my opinion are very disruptive to the harmony of Formula 1, if you look at all the scandals of recent years; Alonso and Ferrari have been involved in most of them... including the race fixing at Renault in 2008, I refuse to believe he knew nothing about the crash-gate scandal! Those are facts that can not be disputed!

The same goes for Mclaren. But thats more a matter of who's winning or fighting for the wins.
Had the kovalainen incident taken place in front of a front fighting car (ie alonso, lewis and even mark if he was leading the race) it would have been MAJOR.

Most teams have used the rules to their advantage at some point in the lifetime of the team; but when it comes to the complaining stakes; Ferrari are the most prominent complainer of all, the rules are the rules; it's the same for everyone; I'm seriously fed up of di Montezemolo constantly bleating when the rules have gone against them. But it's a different story when the rules work in their favour. I would have more respect for Ferrari if they just accepted it; how many times has di Montezemolo complained about the FIA rules this year alone? Work on the competitiveness of your car instead of complaining about something that every team has to abide by!

As for the Webber/Kovalainen crash; that was a racing incident; Heikki had given Mark plenty of room to go around him; Mark got caught in two minds... no matter where, when and to whom that happened to, it would still be a racing incident in my mind.

[stonemonkey]

The main reason I dislike Alonso and/or Ferrari is that neither are exactly beyond reproach, breaking the rules and getting away with it for the most part, wherever Alonso goes scandal is sure to follow if you look at his F1 career... hence the Ferrari International Assistance moniker that was given to the FIA! I'm not necessarily pro-McLaren or Lewis Hamilton, my favourite driver is Jenson Button and has been since he started out in a Williams 11 years ago. I want to see good racing no matter who wins without all the drama; Ferrari are, in my opinion are very disruptive to the harmony of Formula 1, if you look at all the scandals of recent years; Alonso and Ferrari have been involved in most of them... including the race fixing at Renault in 2008, I refuse to believe he knew nothing about the crash-gate scandal! Those are facts that can not be disputed!

The same goes for Mclaren. But thats more a matter of who's winning or fighting for the wins.
Had the kovalainen incident taken place in front of a front fighting car (ie alonso, lewis and even mark if he was leading the race) it would have been MAJOR.

Most teams have used the rules to their advantage at some point in the lifetime of the team; but when it comes to the complaining stakes; Ferrari are the most prominent complainer of all, the rules are the rules; it's the same for everyone; I'm seriously fed up of di Montezemolo constantly bleating when the rules have gone against them. But it's a different story when the rules work in their favour. I would have more respect for Ferrari if they just accepted it; how many times has di Montezemolo complained about the FIA rules this year alone? Work on the competitiveness of your car instead of complaining about something that every team has to abide by!

As for the Webber/Kovalainen crash; that was a racing incident; Heikki had given Mark plenty of room to go around him; Mark got caught in two minds... no matter where, when and to whom that happened to, it would still be a racing incident in my mind.

I think Webber was frustrated with the bad start and then the botched pit-stop, he should definitely have known the Lotus was slower and braking earlier than him but like you say, his mind was elsewhere.

[f1ea]

Most teams have used the rules to their advantage at some point in the lifetime of the team; but when it comes to the complaining stakes; Ferrari are the most prominent complainer of all, the rules are the rules; it's the same for everyone; I'm seriously fed up of di Montezemolo constantly bleating when the rules have gone against them. But it's a different story when the rules work in their favour. I would have more respect for Ferrari if they just accepted it; how many times has di Montezemolo complained about the FIA rules this year alone? Work on the competitiveness of your car instead of complaining about something that every team has to abide by!

LOL Luca is just colorful... hehe.
He's not really a "team leader" though, but rather a political figure. The team leader is Domenicali.

As for the Webber/Kovalainen crash; that was a racing incident; Heikki had given Mark plenty of room to go around him; Mark got caught in two minds... no matter where, when and to whom that happened to, it would still be a racing incident in my mind.

he he i think Heikki didnt realize he was fighting for postion. But he definitely hesitated... it looked as if he was going to make way, and then kept his line as probably he realized he wasnt being Blue flagged. A racing incident, but there shouldnt be absurd slow cars with very fast ones. Again, nothing big because Mark was not fighting for much at that point... but had it been a serious contender

[myownalias]

I know that di Montezemolo is more of a figurehead, I don't have such an issue with Domenicali as he says his piece and moves on... di Montezemolo keeps bleating on!!!

A racing incident, but there shouldnt be absurd slow cars with very fast ones.

By that reckoning, Ferrari and McLaren shouldn't have been on the track for the first half of the 2009 season as they were almost as slow as the three new teams this year.

[bud]

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[IceManpjn]

I guess that Hamilton in all this years has been benefited by all decisons taken

This is incorrect. He had his win at Spa 2008 taken from him, even though he complied with the rules as written at that point in time. The FIA went back clarified the rules afterward, but that was after the chicane incident had already happened, so Lewis couldn't have failed to comply with rules that weren't yet in place. He had his win taken from him anyway, so he definitely didn't benefit by a decision here, no matter what stance you have on whether or not he deserved punishment for the chicane incident.

[Hammer278]

I can't believe some of the claims going on here.

Are you telling me in the heat of battle, with Alonso right behind Lewis' back....the SC comes out right in front of Lewis, and Lewis the big CHEAT immediately worked out exactly where the line is which he must beat the SC too...looked in his mirror to see where Fernando is...timed it perfectly (not so) to leave Alonso behind...and he was SO SURE he would cross the line before the SC (which he didn't) thus heavily risking himself into a drive-through..which would completely lose him the race?? And how did he read Alonso's mind thinking Alonso would just sit back like a good little boy behind the SC instead of overtaking it as well??

^ The above is the train of thought which should have gone through Lewis' mind the moment he saw the SC come out. If your claims are genuine, I must say a lot of you guys really believe Lewis is some kind of GENIUS!!!!! And I thought he's only a genius in driving the bloody car.

[texasmr2]

I can't believe some of the claims going on here.

Are you telling me in the heat of battle, with Alonso right behind Lewis' back....the SC comes out right in front of Lewis, and Lewis the big CHEAT immediately worked out exactly where the line is which he must beat the SC too...looked in his mirror to see where Fernando is...timed it perfectly (not so) to leave Alonso behind...and he was SO SURE he would cross the line before the SC (which he didn't) thus heavily risking himself into a drive-through..which would completely lose him the race?? And how did he read Alonso's mind thinking Alonso would just sit back like a good little boy behind the SC instead of overtaking it as well??

^ The above is the train of thought which should have gone through Lewis' mind the moment he saw the SC come out. If your claims are genuine, I must say a lot of you guys really believe Lewis is some kind of GENIUS!!!!! And I thought he's only a genius in driving the bloody car.

Nice try I'll give you that.

[kerc]

C'mon Tifosi: Hamilton paid his dues.

What do you want Lewis to do, say "Oh, my, this punishment is surely not sufficient--I'll park the car for a minute in the pits"? Self-flagellation doesn't apply to racing (unless you're racing the 24 Hours of Le Mans); he did what the stewards ordered. He stepped on the gas, made very quick times, and add to that the fact that the Saubers are borderline rolling chicanes, he managed to stick to second place. Even the guys at Speed were amazed that there was no one there when he came out of the drive-through!

Lewis didn't cheat, didn't rob anyone, he made a mistake, he did what ordered by the stewards. The whining is totally unnecessary. And if it had happened to Alonso, I would still think exactly the same way.

Get over it.

[kerc]

Oops.

[texasmr2]

C'mon Tifosi: Hamilton paid his dues.

What do you want Lewis to do, say "Oh, my, this punishment is surely not sufficient--I'll park the car for a minute in the pits"? Self-flagellation doesn't apply to racing (unless you're racing the 24 Hours of Le Mans); he did what the stewards ordered. He stepped on the gas, made very quick times, and add to that the fact that the Saubers are borderline rolling chicanes, he managed to stick to third. Even the guys at Speed were amazed that there was no one there when he came out of the drive-through!

Lewis didn't cheat, didn't rob anyone, he made a mistake, he did what ordered by the stewards. The whining is totally unnecessary. And if it had happened to Alonso, I would still think exactly the same way.

Get over it.

Yah those pesky Tifosi with their own opinions whats the world coming too??

[kerc]

C'mon Tifosi: Hamilton paid his dues.

What do you want Lewis to do, say "Oh, my, this punishment is surely not sufficient--I'll park the car for a minute in the pits"? Self-flagellation doesn't apply to racing (unless you're racing the 24 Hours of Le Mans); he did what the stewards ordered. He stepped on the gas, made very quick times, and add to that the fact that the Saubers are borderline rolling chicanes, he managed to stick to third. Even the guys at Speed were amazed that there was no one there when he came out of the drive-through!

Lewis didn't cheat, didn't rob anyone, he made a mistake, he did what ordered by the stewards. The whining is totally unnecessary. And if it had happened to Alonso, I would still think exactly the same way.

Get over it.

Yah those pesky Tifosi with their own opinions whats the world coming too??

Dude, I got a Tifosi here at home, my 13 year-old son. My team is McLaren but I secretly admire when Ferrari does its thing right. Shhh...But I do think that one thing is opinion, and the other is reality. And what I stated is the reality of things, the facts. Honestly, if the situation was reversed, I would think nothing of Alonso--he'd be okay in my books.

[hesketh308]

I know being British I should feel somewhat obliged to support the Macca boys and Lewis and Jenson, and I fully admit that Lewis is one of the fastest drivers out there......but I just can't stand him as a person. Every time he gets interviewed after a race I just have to turn it over to another channel for a while, and don't even get me started on his airhead girlfriend

But that's totally my problem, I'm sure there are plenty of Hamilton fans out there.

Sorry, rant over.

[Jamie]

Why not all shut up and not feed the weird needs of annoying McLaren/Lewis fans & RC (Who is in her own little league)

[AKR]

C'mon Tifosi: Hamilton paid his dues.

What do you want Lewis to do, say "Oh, my, this punishment is surely not sufficient--I'll park the car for a minute in the pits"? Self-flagellation doesn't apply to racing (unless you're racing the 24 Hours of Le Mans); he did what the stewards ordered. He stepped on the gas, made very quick times, and add to that the fact that the Saubers are borderline rolling chicanes, he managed to stick to second place. Even the guys at Speed were amazed that there was no one there when he came out of the drive-through!

Lewis didn't cheat, didn't rob anyone, he made a mistake, he did what ordered by the stewards. The whining is totally unnecessary. And if it had happened to Alonso, I would still think exactly the same way.

Get over it.

NEVER!