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#198263
In my opinion, If you have 7 world titles, then you're the greatest driver in history. Hmmm... Everyone else who wins World Championships have had fast cars.....

Senna either won a championship or came second in a McLaren. Prost similarly in a McLaren or a Williams. Fangio in whatever.


The guys who win always have had fast cars. Same with Schumacher. Schumacher was better than all of them.


So why was Schumacher specifically better than the others you mentioned when they've all had, according to you, the best cars when they won titles? That is one question i have never, ever got a straight answer to, apart from 'he won more titles' which is quite a black and white way to look at it and, as i've said before, ignores a lot of important things.

edit - Flav has appropriately made a few comments today -

Things will only get harder for Michael Schumacher as the season progresses, reckons his former team boss Flavio Briatore.

Schumacher, returning to F1 after an absence of three years, has so far been outperformed by his Mercedes team-mate Nico Rosberg.

And although the seven-time champion is hoping to make progress as the season moves on, Briatore told Autosprint that he thinks Schumacher's life will be more difficult.

"On the contrary, I think it will be harder and harder for him," said Briatore when asked if he expected Schumacher to improve during the season.

"I don't know how he can recover. I think the competition is fierce. He made the decision to return without thinking that, in four years, the cars and the tyres have changed massively."

He added: "I've always said that it would be difficult for him to stay ahead of Rosberg. You can't come back in such a competitive sport after four or five years. Prost did, but only one season had gone by.

"Today, instead, he's found some tough customers, because in F1 there have never been drivers as good as this year. There's Hamilton, Fernando, Vettel, Rosberg..."

Briatore also said he has not changed his opinion about Jenson Button, despite the Briton leading the championship after four races.

The Italian reckons the world champion is still not among the top five drivers.

"We'll see how it ends up between Button and Hamilton at the end of the season. Jenson has done well, he's won two races and we know why: he was able to manage things and had luck on his side.

"I don't speak badly of him, I just say that he is not among the five quickest drivers in F1."


I disagree that Schumacher can't bounce back, and it would be absurd to write him off like that. However, he does allude to the competition at the moment, so i guess i agree with him on that (worryingly enough)! :yikes: His comments on Button smack of sour grapes though. :rolleyes:
#198673
MS did very well today, demolishing his teammate, and finishing well in far from the best car.


Hmmm. Yes he did, but his team mate had problems and prior to this MS has been demolished by team mate every outing.
#198677
MS did very well today, demolishing his teammate, and finishing well in far from the best car.


Hmmm. Yes he did, but his team mate had problems and prior to this MS has been demolished by team mate every outing.


You're a Schumacher hater :)

MS did well. And although it was not Nico's race... there were lots of changes made to suit Schumacher. Will these changes destroy Nico? or will they both be able to begin delivering good results? I still think Michael will be able to come to terms with the car and the new F1... dont think he will be able to repeat crushing success.... but who knows. He is the greatest, after all :wink:
#198680
MS did very well today, demolishing his teammate, and finishing well in far from the best car.


Hmmm. Yes he did, but his team mate had problems and prior to this MS has been demolished by team mate every outing.


You're a Schumacher hater :)

MS did well. And although it was not Nico's race... there were lots of changes made to suit Schumacher. Will these changes destroy Nico? or will they both be able to begin delivering good results? I still think Michael will be able to come to terms with the car and the new F1... dont think he will be able to repeat crushing success.... but who knows. He is the greatest, after all :wink:


Well I dont like him much thats true, but credit to him for what he's doing. But you cant say he destroyed his team mate without recognising that his team mate destroyed him 4 times.
#198682
Well I dont like him much thats true, but credit to him for what he's doing. But you cant say he destroyed his team mate without recognising that his team mate destroyed him 4 times.


hehe c'mon admit it, you hate him... :wink:
But yeah you're right, he didnt really "destroy" his teammate. Rather, Nico had a poor race... plus MS got some good changes going his way, and having a better feeling in the car... Dont think Nico will be this poor from here on... but I think Michael has room and potential to improve (and he will). I'm not a big Merc fan though....
#198683
Well I dont like him much thats true, but credit to him for what he's doing. But you cant say he destroyed his team mate without recognising that his team mate destroyed him 4 times.


hehe c'mon admit it, you hate him... :wink:
But yeah you're right, he didnt really "destroy" his teammate. Rather, Nico had a poor race... plus MS got some good changes going his way, and having a better feeling in the car... Dont think Nico will be this poor from here on... but I think Michael has room and potential to improve (and he will). I'm not a big Merc fan though....


I dont like to think I hate anyone. I disliked him more when he was strutting it and bending the rules. I particularly disliked his actions against Hill. That said ,I admire him coming back and will respect him if he fights fair. I hope that chassis change wasnt done at Nicco's expense. I dont believe it was at this moment.......Despite me dislking him I am glad he's getting it together and i agree with you there's probably more to come. But Michael....keep it fair!!
#199219
I dont like to think I hate anyone. I disliked him more when he was strutting it and bending the rules. I particularly disliked his actions against Hill. That said ,I admire him coming back and will respect him if he fights fair. I hope that chassis change wasnt done at Nicco's expense. I dont believe it was at this moment.......Despite me dislking him I am glad he's getting it together and i agree with you there's probably more to come. But Michael....keep it fair!!


You know... i think part of the reason he came back is to "clear" his name. I think he'd like to be seen as a fair and competitive driver. ie racing alongside a good promising driver and in a more or less levelled field. Of course, he probably missed F1, but deep down i think he wants to get some respect from the cloudy stuff in his past.....
#199223
I dont like to think I hate anyone. I disliked him more when he was strutting it and bending the rules.

Kinda like Lewis right? :yes:

I particularly disliked his actions against Hill. That said ,I admire him coming back and will respect him if he fights fair. I hope that chassis change wasnt done at Nicco's expense. I dont believe it was at this moment.......Despite me dislking him I am glad he's getting it together and i agree with you there's probably more to come. But Michael....keep it fair!!

:yawn: What a load of :bs: .
#199225
I dont like to think I hate anyone. I disliked him more when he was strutting it and bending the rules.

Kinda like Lewis right? :yes:

I particularly disliked his actions against Hill. That said ,I admire him coming back and will respect him if he fights fair. I hope that chassis change wasnt done at Nicco's expense. I dont believe it was at this moment.......Despite me dislking him I am glad he's getting it together and i agree with you there's probably more to come. But Michael....keep it fair!!

:yawn: What a load of :bs: .


Oh seriously tex, your comparing lewis's bending of the rules to Schumacher actualy ramming another driver off the track and making a monaco a expensive car park?

Do you actualy watch f1?
#199237
I particularly disliked his actions against Hill. That said ,I admire him coming back and will respect him if he fights fair. I hope that chassis change wasnt done at Nicco's expense. I dont believe it was at this moment.......Despite me dislking him I am glad he's getting it together and i agree with you there's probably more to come. But Michael....keep it fair!!

:yawn: What a load of :bs: .


which part? I disliked his actions against HIll, will never forget them i was at that race as a wee teen :hehe:

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