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[texasmr2]

Personally I'd like to see in 2012, major aero restrictions, and moving towards straight 4 engines being developed, and a standard KERS system that can only be used around 10 times during a race. Simply because it creates better racing and overtaking, and keeps the eco-mentalists happy. It'll bring in people like VW which is good for the sport.

Allow me to quote the best opinion setforth so far which I have agreed with all along;

The limit should be the fuel available per race - everything else should be unrestricted

[Frosty]

I think the engines should also have to last a certain amount of weekends like 4 or 5 as well as the engines going into parc ferme before qualifying so that we don't have cars putting out 2000+ hp in qualifying because that's just going to kill someone. I really like the idea of limiting the amount of fuel for a race.
The biggest issue to me is that if there is a change in engine regulations to allow engine development then a budget cap of say £20-30 million a season for engine development is really needed we can't go back to the days of teams spending $200 million + a year on engines like we were seeing before they froze the engines such as 2006.

[7UpJordan]

Making the "new generation" of turbos last a lot of races would be a good idea to make the teams run them at less HP because the turbo engines were often pretty unreliable back in the days, and a Turbo engine used in qualifying at full boost was only good enough for one lap, at the end of it certain components would have melted into each other.

[texasmr2]

It seems most of us want to limit the rules and reg's but with most opinions here I see nothing but more rules and reg's wanting to be implemented ???

[Frosty]

It seems most of us want to limit the rules and reg's but with most opinions here I see nothing but more rules and reg's wanting to be implemented ???

You have to have some basic regulations to.

A. limit speed so people don't die

B. Limit costs so all the teams don't go bankrupt

[texasmr2]

You have to have some basic regulations to.
A. limit speed so people don't die.

Speed does not kill, it is the sudden deceleration that kills, ie basil skull fractures and that is why the HANS device is/has been instituted although it is not a cure all. Racing is dangerous and that is all there is to it, people die everyday in automobile accidents under 50mph so reducing speed is not the answer.

B. Limit costs so all the teams don't go bankrupt

F1 is not a starter series so a full season's budget should be secured before hand imo yet we are all in the turmoil of a shaky and unpredictable economy.

[Frosty]

You have to have some basic regulations to.
A. limit speed so people don't die.

Speed does not kill, it is the sudden deceleration that kills, ie basil skull fractures and that is why the HANS device is/has been instituted although it is not a cure all. Racing is dangerous and that is all there is to it, people die everyday in automobile accidents under 50mph so reducing speed is not the answer.

I know all of that but you need to be going fast before you can have your massive deceleration right? In my opinion the sport should not be inherently life threatening I don't want a return to the amount of danger in the sport that was there before Senna died. I also don't see how road deaths are relevant to the sport either I also think much more needs to be done to bringing road deaths down.

B. Limit costs so all the teams don't go bankrupt

F1 is not a starter series so a full season's budget should be secured before hand imo yet we are all in the turmoil of a shaky and unpredictable economy.

I think we need budget restrictions there isn't enough money out there to get 13 teams all running £300 million budgets. The amount of teams that have left the sport proves this. People know they cannot be competitive when they are spending £50 million and other teams are spending £300 million so they don't compete at all because they don't have the budget.

[Trypt]

I don't see a problem with using a new engine every race. It is a huge achievement that an engine lasts a whole race as it is, putting out as much power as it does at that RPM. Incredible.

And those talking about F1 having to go towards more popular engine choices, aka smaller engines, there aren't any under 4.0L 8cyl engines on the road, F1 already uses incredibly small displacement engines compared to the number of cylinders. Ferrari used to build a 3.0L V12!! Whats wrong with that? Not much of a diff between that and a V6 of the same displacement, each has its advantages and disadvantages.

[Frosty]

I don't see a problem with using a new engine every race. It is a huge achievement that an engine lasts a whole race as it is, putting out as much power as it does at that RPM. Incredible.

The idea is that you limit the performance of the engine so they don't become to powerful by saying the engines have to last for a certain amount of time.

[Jabberwocky]

Limit the amount of fuel a car can have for a race.
Engines whatever you want but must have the economy
KERS totally unrestricted and computer controlled
Aero do what you like but it is your drag/fuel you are creating/using. apart from a totally flat floor with no holes in it. so no diffusers, which will make the wake tidier for car travelling behind.

[7UpJordan]

Limit the amount of fuel a car can have for a race.
Engines whatever you want but must have the economy
KERS totally unrestricted and computer controlled
Aero do what you like but it is your drag/fuel you are creating/using. apart from a totally flat floor with no holes in it. so no diffusers, which will make the wake tidier for car travelling behind.

Having a totally flat floor and no diffuser would also probably eliminate the need for the high noses, I've never been fond of them personally.

[Jabberwocky]

I am sure the driver will be a bit more comfy as well

[cap-dude]

All this unrestircted aero stuff sounds wonderfull, but in the real world. It's just a silly dream.

If aerodynamicists where let lose with aero, and engines were unrestricted, we'd have insane top speeds and cornering speeds. Your talking about drivers blacking out here. Cars that are impossible to drive. There's a reason things have to be restricted in F1. Ground effects weren't taken away for no good reason.

F1 and racing is suspose to be entertaining in my opinion. I'd rather watch tense, wheel to wheel action, than a technical processional showcase about who can spend the most money. If impressive tech has to be dropped in order to get some great action, then I'm all for it.


Unfortunatly absoultely everyone has an opinion, and right now it seems too many cooks are spoiling the broth. No ones quite sure what F1 wants to be.

[NateDawg80126]

I think its a great idea, can you even imagine how sick a modern F1 engine would sound with a turbo, just imagine what turn one would sound like with a full field of cars crackling their blow-off valves.

[Trypt]

F1 and racing is suspose to be entertaining in my opinion. I'd rather watch tense, wheel to wheel action, than a technical processional showcase about who can spend the most money. If impressive tech has to be dropped in order to get some great action, then I'm all for it.

Then you are watching the wrong series. You should be watching Indy Open Wheel or Nascar and the likes. F1 is about showcasing technology, and we're not about to sacrifice that to please you, when you already have all kinds of racing circuits and series to choose from. Leave F1 to us fans.