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[Denthúl]

Alonso bottom and Ralf 2nd?! Crazy.

Not so crazy when you consider that Alonso qualified in the top five on 14 occasions, six of which were poles.

[cap-dude]

Germany 08 for example.

Ya I agree. Hamilton was on fire there.

Edit: I was confusing Europe 07 there when Alonso passed Massa right at the end of the race.

Europe 07 when they put on wets, Massa had vibration problems and was losing around 3 or 4 seconds per lap. I know he's had some bad wet races, but you don't lose a 5 seconds gap over one lap for no reason.

Strangely I was watching that very race yesterday. Weird coincidence
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 205510.stm
That was the time Murray did some commentating for Radio 5 Live

[Hexagram]

Germany 08 for example.

Ya I agree. Hamilton was on fire there.

Edit: I was confusing Europe 07 there when Alonso passed Massa right at the end of the race.

Europe 07 when they put on wets, Massa had vibration problems and was losing around 3 or 4 seconds per lap. I know he's had some bad wet races, but you don't lose a 5 seconds gap over one lap for no reason.

Strangely I was watching that very race yesterday. Weird coincidence
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 205510.stm
That was the time Murray did some commentating for Radio 5 Live

Ya, was a great race. Alonso & Massa arguing at the end was funny.

A: You broke my mirror there, go and have a look at it!
M: Go screw yourself! Youve won and you say something like this."
A: I fought with Heidfeld, i fought with everyone, but you cant do that.
M: (Touching Alonso) Try to learn something
A: You try to learn something, I fought with everyone today, and with 3 laps to go, we touch!
M: Good!
A: Good job!
M: (sarcastic tone) I did that on purpose, like i did it on purpose in Barcelona!
A: I don't care
M: Try to learn something



They are going to make such good team mates

[cap-dude]

I like how Massa brings up Barcelona. Ouch

[headless]

I|f i lie here, if i just lay here would you lie with me and just forget the world

[suitcase]

I|f i lie here, if i just lay here would you lie with me and just forget the world

Snow Patrol

[Hexagram]

:rofl:
I like how Massa brings up Barcelona. Ouch

Ya, love it.

[Gaz]

Germany 08 for example.

Ya I agree. Hamilton was on fire there.

Edit: I was confusing Europe 07 there when Alonso passed Massa right at the end of the race.

Europe 07 when they put on wets, Massa had vibration problems and was losing around 3 or 4 seconds per lap. I know he's had some bad wet races, but you don't lose a 5 seconds gap over one lap for no reason.

Strangely I was watching that very race yesterday. Weird coincidence
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 205510.stm
That was the time Murray did some commentating for Radio 5 Live

Ya, was a great race. Alonso & Massa arguing at the end was funny.

A: You broke my mirror there, go and have a look at it!
M: Go screw yourself! Youve won and you say something like this."
A: I fought with Heidfeld, i fought with everyone, but you cant do that.
M: (Touching Alonso) Try to learn something
A: You try to learn something, I fought with everyone today, and with 3 laps to go, we touch!
M: Good!
A: Good job!
M: (sarcastic tone) I did that on purpose, like i did it on purpose in Barcelona!
A: I don't care
M: Try to learn something



They are going to make such good team mates

Yeh thats gonna be on massive fight..

[vaptin]

I don't mind competitiveness and I trust ferrari to ensure it won't spiral out of control.

[racechick]

Germany 08 for example.

Ya I agree. Hamilton was on fire there.

Edit: I was confusing Europe 07 there when Alonso passed Massa right at the end of the race.

Europe 07 when they put on wets, Massa had vibration problems and was losing around 3 or 4 seconds per lap. I know he's had some bad wet races, but you don't lose a 5 seconds gap over one lap for no reason.

Strangely I was watching that very race yesterday. Weird coincidence
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 205510.stm
That was the time Murray did some commentating for Radio 5 Live

Ya, was a great race. Alonso & Massa arguing at the end was funny.

A: You broke my mirror there, go and have a look at it!
M: Go screw yourself! Youve won and you say something like this."
A: I fought with Heidfeld, i fought with everyone, but you cant do that.
M: (Touching Alonso) Try to learn something
A: You try to learn something, I fought with everyone today, and with 3 laps to go, we touch!
M: Good!
A: Good job!
M: (sarcastic tone) I did that on purpose, like i did it on purpose in Barcelona!
A: I don't care
M: Try to learn something



They are going to make such good team mates

Yeh thats gonna be on massive fight..

GO MASSA GO!!!!!

[Hexagram]

GO MASSA GO!!!!!

Anyone but Alonso.

[vaptin]

Go badoer! Take em down dude.

[RyRy]

Overtaking's don't really mean that much... Lets say Massa Starts P2 on the Grid and Hamilton Starts P1 and Lets put Rosberg P3

Race Start: Hamilton Looses a place to Rosberg.
Massa Stalls the car and is overtaken and is down in last place
Hamilton Lap 3, overtakes Rosberg and runs the whole race to the win.
Rosberg Stay's P2 the whole race and comes in second.
There are 50laps to the track, by lap 26 massa is up to 3rd, he spins and looses control of the car and when gets back on track is down in 18th he fights and manages to get back up to 7th but then spins again on the final lap and comes in 10th

Now Massa would have alot of overtakes for that race right but he came 10th... Hamilton win's by a considerable gap (could of reversed over the line) but only has one overtake...

See what i mean?

[7UpJordan]

Overtaking's don't really mean that much... Lets say Massa Starts P2 on the Grid and Hamilton Starts P1 and Lets put Rosberg P3

Race Start: Hamilton Looses a place to Rosberg.
Massa Stalls the car and is overtaken and is down in last place
Hamilton Lap 3, overtakes Rosberg and runs the whole race to the win.
Rosberg Stay's P2 the whole race and comes in second.
There are 50laps to the track, by lap 26 massa is up to 3rd, he spins and looses control of the car and when gets back on track is down in 18th he fights and manages to get back up to 7th but then spins again on the final lap and comes in 10th

Now Massa would have alot of overtakes for that race right but he came 10th... Hamilton win's by a considerable gap (could of reversed over the line) but only has one overtake...

See what i mean?

You forgot to factor in;

lap 23 - Rosberg comes into the pits and crosses the white line at the pit exit OR crashes in the pit lane entrance (it's bound to happen one day )

or

Rosberg pits but his out laps are so poor he gets gobbled up by at least 2 or 3 cars behind him.

[texasmr2]

There is still one entity Lewis has not physically overtaken, guess what it is??