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Formula One related discussion.
#155777
Think of all the money the other F1 teams spent to race in Singapore just to get cheated... Renault should have been heavily fined.

Other than that, the punishment fits the crime.


they are paying the costs of the investigation and the parent company has been roped into another FIA safety thing
#155781
Renault got a lighter sentence because they got rid of Briatore and Symonds which is a bit of a joke. They deserved a far harsher punishment than a 2 year suspended ban.


I disagree. If they could prove that only Briatore, Symonds and Piquet knew anything, and all three are out of the team, then it's fair to get the punishment they received. Take a look at McLaren earlier in the year, by removing Dave Ryan they got off with a lighter sentence.

How would you have punished them?

I'm glad to see that Briatore is out permanently, not sure on Symonds. Do we know how much was revealed during the hearing? And how much of that has found its way to us?
#155802
When does the ban kick in??
Is it if they get caught race fixing again?


I imagine it would be the same as what was given to McLaren, and any action that brings the sport in to disrepute will result in the ban being imposed.
#155804
When does the ban kick in??
Is it if they get caught race fixing again?


I imagine it would be the same as what was given to McLaren, and any action that brings the sport in to disrepute will result in the ban being imposed.

Yeah, I was gonna say if it is the next time they get caught crashing for a race fixing, then they'l never get it.
#155810
Yeah, I mean McLaren still have a suspended race ban, and everyone's quite frankly forgotten about it.

The first article I actually read was titled "Renault receive 2 year ban" Stupid misleading journo's. I was like, holy $@*#, what'll happen Alonso.

Anyways, nothing major. Alonso, Grosjean, Webber and Kovy just need new managers. Doubt they'll miss Briatore.
#155818
Yeah, I mean McLaren still have a suspended race ban, and everyone's quite frankly forgotten about it.

The first article I actually read was titled "Renault receive 2 year ban" Stupid misleading journo's. I was like, holy $@*#, what'll happen Alonso.

Anyways, nothing major. Alonso, Grosjean, Webber and Kovy just need new managers. Doubt they'll miss Briatore.


Only Webber is confirmed for next year as well. Kovy and Grosjean might be in trouble. I think Alonso will already have a deal and contingency plan in place.
#155823
Renault got a lighter sentence because they got rid of Briatore and Symonds which is a bit of a joke. They deserved a far harsher punishment than a 2 year suspended ban.


I disagree. If they could prove that only Briatore, Symonds and Piquet knew anything, and all three are out of the team, then it's fair to get the punishment they received. Take a look at McLaren earlier in the year, by removing Dave Ryan they got off with a lighter sentence.

How would you have punished them?

I'm glad to see that Briatore is out permanently, not sure on Symonds. Do we know how much was revealed during the hearing? And how much of that has found its way to us?


McLaren got a 100mil fine for "spying" and we sacked the two main people involved.

Don't get me wrong i'm glad they didn't get a ban.

But no fine?

come on...
#155824
Renault got a lighter sentence because they got rid of Briatore and Symonds which is a bit of a joke. They deserved a far harsher punishment than a 2 year suspended ban.


I disagree. If they could prove that only Briatore, Symonds and Piquet knew anything, and all three are out of the team, then it's fair to get the punishment they received. Take a look at McLaren earlier in the year, by removing Dave Ryan they got off with a lighter sentence.

How would you have punished them?

I'm glad to see that Briatore is out permanently, not sure on Symonds. Do we know how much was revealed during the hearing? And how much of that has found its way to us?


McLaren got a 100mil fine for "spying" and we sacked the two main people involved.

Don't get me wrong i'm glad they didn't get a ban.

But no fine?

come on...


Hey, I agree that the penalty that McLaren got was ridiculous...
#155825
McLaren got a 100mil fine for "spying" and we sacked the two main people involved.

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