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[Frosty]

One thing the stewards have been consistenly failing to do is at least summoning Hamilton for his turn 1 antics.

Overtaking is allowed you know.....

[darwin dali]

One thing the stewards have been consistenly failing to do is at least summoning Hamilton for his turn 1 antics.

Overtaking is allowed you know.....

That's news to me

[The-Stig]

One thing the stewards have been consistenly failing to do is at least summoning Hamilton for his turn 1 antics.

Overtaking is allowed you know.....

That's news to me

Just because it doesn't happen very often doesn't mean it's not allowed.

[Stealthgate007]

I wonder if someone from the press could ask Ari Vatanan and Jean Todt, "Will you have a different policy for Stewards, as having the same professional individuals installed at each race?" I think that would be one of the questions I would have for their canidadacy. What type of reform would they bring other than change the rules for the drivers every year (and then not knowing how to enforce them).

[The-Stig]

I wonder if someone from the press could ask Ari Vatanan and Jean Todt, "Will you have a different policy for Stewards, as having the same professional individuals installed at each race?" I think that would be one of the questions I would have for their canidadacy. What type of reform would they bring other than change the rules for the drivers every year (and then not knowing how to enforce them).

That's a good point. whoever takes over from Mosley will need to do something to fix the steward problem.

[scotty]

One thing the stewards have been consistenly failing to do is at least summoning Hamilton for his turn 1 antics.
He's made a habit of diving head first and reckelessly into turn one, whenever he's not on front row, disregarding and putting into risk the other drivers' AND his own race.

Now, im saying he deserves a WARNING. Dont make anything more of it now....

Webber's drive through was reasonable. Kimi's incidents have mostly been some driver going over aggressive and bumping into him, defending his position rather than him doing something reckless to endarger other drivers.

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Hamilton has been punished for a first corner incident.(Incorrectly in my view) He's done nothing recently that warrants a Warning!! Are you referring to him using KERS??

Surely Fuji last year is what he's talking about, and he got a penalty for that i thought.

On this topic, the key differences between Raikkonen and Webber's incidents are that Mark hit Rubens on a relatively open bit of track whereas Raikkonen was surrounded by cars, and didn't hit anybody. I don't think either really deserved any action, but i can see why an argument for giving a penalty to Webber could be made. I'm sure my view would be different if a drive through had cost him the race though!

[bud]

the reasoning of the decisions isnt in question here, its the fact both happened on lap 1 yet one gets decided on during the race, the next post race. so why is that?

[f1ea]

One thing the stewards have been consistenly failing to do is at least summoning Hamilton for his turn 1 antics.

Overtaking is allowed you know.....

He actually did the OVERTAKING on the straight. On turn 1 he runs out of track.
Despite other drivers running KERS and doing overtaking... but they dont dive into turn 1 knowing they wont be able to make the turn, while at the same time compromising everyone else's line.

[f1ea]

the reasoning of the decisions isnt in question here, its the fact both happened on lap 1 yet one gets decided on during the race, the next post race. so why is that?

I think they do a preliminary "hearing" on the incident and if they decide it is not something serious then they bump it for further investigation... Webber's contact in Germany was a bit more flagrant so they made their decision right away. If a contact seems innocent then they send it to post race investigation. I think its reasonable, why should they waste their time on small racing contact?

A lot of other contact takes place and they let it go...

[bud]

the reasoning of the decisions isnt in question here, its the fact both happened on lap 1 yet one gets decided on during the race, the next post race. so why is that?

I think they do a preliminary "hearing" on the incident and if they decide it is not something serious then they bump it for further investigation... Webber's contact in Germany was a bit more flagrant so they made their decision right away. If a contact seems innocent then they send it to post race investigation. I think its reasonable, why should they waste their time on small racing contact?

A lot of other contact takes place and they let it go...

small racing contact? then why even investigate it if its just a waste of time?

[growleruk]

As a newbie to the forum, I am not particularly surprised at the outcome of this incident involving Kimi, but am astonished at the way the results of the investigation appears to have been conveniently "lost" under the larger headlines. Nowhere is the definitive result available other than digging on the FIA's website, suggesting that no press release has been forthcoming from the FIA. Could this be possibly to save further embarrasment for a potential candidate?

www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/ ... ent_43.pdf

www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/ ... ent_44.pdf

www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/ ... ent_45.pdf

www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/ ... ent_47.pdf

[Frosty]

One thing the stewards have been consistenly failing to do is at least summoning Hamilton for his turn 1 antics.

Overtaking is allowed you know.....

He actually did the OVERTAKING on the straight. On turn 1 he runs out of track.
Despite other drivers running KERS and doing overtaking... but they dont dive into turn 1 knowing they wont be able to make the turn, while at the same time compromising everyone else's line.

I guess your talking about Germany when he went off at Turn 1 this was because Lewis and Webber made a very small amount of contact but Lewis got a immediate puncture and so he couldn't break properly that's why he ran off the track at the corner! Anyway when has running off the track been against the rules? As long as you don't gain places by it it's OK.

[kerc]

One thing the stewards have been consistenly failing to do is at least summoning Hamilton for his turn 1 antics.

Overtaking is allowed you know.....

That's news to me

Just because it doesn't happen very often doesn't mean it's not allowed.

[headless]

I don't think Kimi should have got a penalty, but niether do I think Webber should.

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