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[nikon133]

Actually, if Hamilton & McLaren don't win WDC/WCC by 2010, I'd expect Hamilton to decide to switch team looking for his chance to get a title - by then he'd be very desperate... and, considering his flirting with Williams, I don't really think he's so faithful to McLaren. And considering his ego, I'm sure he'll be thinking McLaren is the only responsible for him not having title already (no matter how distant from the truth that might be).

On the other side, I don't think Ron would EVER admit being wrong by calling Alonso back. After Ron, well, who knows? But putting Alonso's pride in the pot - and that is another huge ingredient - I can't see whole recipe working out.

I agree completely with the first paragraph. Whilst I think what you say in your second paragraph is the most likely, a seed of doubt is planted in my mind when I think back to Dennis asking Prost to come back to McLaren for the 1994 season (although I understand Prost and Dennis' differences never sank as far as that blackmail and bribery that Alonso deployed).

I'm not totally sure what to think about the idea of Alonso coming back to McLaren. If Hamilton is still at the team, I don't think it would be a good idea. Also, there is the chance that Hamilton will improve and stop making his gaffes. If he does that, which he probably will, I'd tolerate his super-sized ego. If Hamilton, for one reason or another, was not at McLaren, I'd probably bring Alonso back to McLaren. As much as he can be underhand and arrogant, he is a class act as a driver. As with Hamilton's arrogance, I'd be prepared to make some concessions on his personality etc. to have him on board.

I would not let him go from McLaren, to start with... and as it is, if McLaren ends 2008 lower than 2007, I would try to bribe him back... but Ron, somehow I don't see that happening. If Ron leaves, or Mercedes buys over... maybe; but only if Hamilton is somewhere else.

[nikon133]

I wonder if toyota are going to come into it at all, lets face it glock hasnt done a great job this season and trulli is getting close to his use by date and the team could use someone like alonso to help develop the car (that hurt me to say that).
Toyota can be up there with the big boys more often they just need to get their driver signings sorted out

You know, I actually thought that is exactly what Alonso should do... follow Schumacher footsteps, that is. He's got 2 titles with Renault (like MS did with Beneton) so he should have joined team with loads of money and desperate need for big calibre driver (like Ferrari was at the time). With 2 titles in the pocket he should have no reason to rush his 3rd one, he would have loads of money with Toyota (Honda, Red Bull) and if he would manage to bring them to top form, they would worship him like a God. A real fulfilling career.

I would probably look for Honda (because of Ross Brown) or RB (because of Adrian) even if money is better at Toyota, but one or another, principle is the same.

No doubt that Fernando has the talent and ability to do it the way that schumi did but i don't think he has the patience. He wants to win it all right now which is why he is willing to leave Renault and go to Ferrari instead of leading that team back to former glory's

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Yeah, I guess that is his major flaw compared to Schumacher. Patience doesn't go well with "Latin" guys.

[McLaren Fan]

I would not let him go from McLaren, to start with... and as it is, if McLaren ends 2008 lower than 2007, I would try to bribe him back... but Ron, somehow I don't see that happening. If Ron leaves, or Mercedes buys over... maybe; but only if Hamilton is somewhere else.

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I was disappointed to see Alonso leave the team, but after what happened there was no chance of him staying. Hamilton may have been involved in s*** stirring, but after Alonso attempted to bribe McLaren staff, blackmail Ron Dennis, with the Mercedes board wanting him sacked, and with the time McLaren had invested in Hamilton, the only way was out. As I said, I would like to see Alonso back at McLaren - it would be good for business, even if Dennis and Alonso were not best buddies - but, as you also said, I don't see it happening with Hamilton at the team.

[bud]

the Spanish god should stay at Renault and use his super technical powers and make them fast just as he made them so in 05 and 06!

[racechick]

the Spanish god should stay at Renault and use his super technical powers and make them fast just as he made them so in 05 and 06!

Not working this year is it

[7UpJordan]

I wonder if toyota are going to come into it at all, lets face it glock hasnt done a great job this season and trulli is getting close to his use by date and the team could use someone like alonso to help develop the car (that hurt me to say that).
Toyota can be up there with the big boys more often they just need to get their driver signings sorted out

I don't think Alonso would relish moving to another manufacturer team that's being constantly beaten by engine customers (Red Bull are beating Renault, Williams are miles faster than Toyota).

I don't think Williams would be able to afford to take on Alonso, but then again maybe Alonso might think it is his best option if Ferrari is blocked out and somehow he doesn't go to BMW, afterall Williams are a team on the way back up, Renault appear to be shaking and Toyota never go anywhere.

Having said that I still think he will go to BMW. Kubica has already said he would love to have Alonso as his teammate, Heidfeld's unhappy, but I really think Alonso should stay at Renault for at least next year. However somebody said that latino's aren't reknown for their patience, especially Alonso.

[bud]

the Spanish god should stay at Renault and use his super technical powers and make them fast just as he made them so in 05 and 06!

Not working this year is it

doesnt look like it same time last year i think Renault had more points didnt they? hehe their going backwards. maybe the SPanish god has taken away 6 tenths......









who likes fishing?

[McLaren Fan]

Here are Alonso's comments, said over the past couple of days, reported by F1 Live:

Fernando Alonso has left open the possibility that he will leave the French owned F1 team Renault at the end of 2008.

"I do not know what is going to happen," the Spaniard told reporters in Madrid, where he received the 'V Premio Dialogo' prize, celebrating the burgeoning friendship between Spain and France.

"We have improved the car a bit and I hope that by the end of the year we will be aiming for podiums and victories," the 26-year-old former double world champion added, according to the news agency EFE.

"At the end of the year we will see where Renault is and then make a decision," he said.


Alonso said the R28 will sport some improvements at Magny Cours this weekend, but he admits that he was expecting better this year after switching from McLaren in 2007.

"The truth is that we have not been so good so far," he explained. "It's worse than we expected because we are far away from where he wanted to be."

[f1ea]

doesnt look like it same time last year i think Renault had more points didnt they? hehe their going backwards. maybe the SPanish god has taken away 6 tenths......

who likes fishing?

hadn't seen your Guppy bait until now

Comparing with Nelson Piquet, he has much more than just 6/10's.
AND although he hasn't been able to show much in races (out of plain over-eagerness), but he has Renault's tenths somewhere in his pockets...
in the very same place he keeps Mclaren's WCC lead

[nikon133]

the Spanish god should stay at Renault and use his super technical powers and make them fast just as he made them so in 05 and 06!

Not working this year is it

Look at those Hamiltonites glowing red-hot...

[EwanM]

the Spanish god should stay at Renault and use his super technical powers and make them fast just as he made them so in 05 and 06!

Not working this year is it

Look at those Hamiltonites glowing red-hot...

Totally agree with you nikon. I feel Hamilton isn't as squeaky clean as what the rest claim. He was envolved in that mess last year and was certainly one of the leading causes behind it.
I feel that he'll jump ship eventually if he doesn't get his own way, heck if he starts getting beaten by his team mate he may start trying to pull and "Alonso" and call for no1 status, what will everyone say then?

For me Alonso has 3 options available to him. He stays with Renault and rolls the dice. They either come up with the goods due to the regulations changing or find themselves stuck in the midfield.
He could move to BMW, a team in a similar situation to Ferrari 1996 - probably better mind you - and moves up quicker... mind you making him play equallity with Kubica. Or he moves to Ferrari.

Seriously Schumacher seems to me to be an exception. If you are a driver wanting to be champion, you go where you have the best chance.

Alonso back at Mclaren? It was a shame he ever left, but it just couldn't work. The media in both England and Spain didn't help one bit mind you. Alonso's tactics were very poor and in no way should he have threatened anybody. However neither should have Lewis ran off to the papers when he was beaten... just like after Montreal. Alonso won't go back to Mclaren and I feel they will suffer in the end, when Alonso returns in a title winning car.

[McLaren Fan]

the Spanish god should stay at Renault and use his super technical powers and make them fast just as he made them so in 05 and 06!

Love the sarcasm and tone of that remark.

[racechick]

the Spanish god should stay at Renault and use his super technical powers and make them fast just as he made them so in 05 and 06!

Not working this year is it

Look at those Hamiltonites glowing red-hot...

Totally agree with you nikon. I feel Hamilton isn't as squeaky clean as what the rest claim. He was envolved in that mess last year and was certainly one of the leading causes behind it.
I feel that he'll jump ship eventually if he doesn't get his own way, heck if he starts getting beaten by his team mate he may start trying to pull and "Alonso" and call for no1 status, what will everyone say then?

Seriously Schumacher seems to me to be an exception. If you are a driver wanting to be champion, you go where you have the best chance.

The only thing Lewis did last year was to drive a hell of a lot faster than anyone expected him to and therin lay the problem. Do you know what Alonso said when he knew Lewis was geting the drive.....What about the constructors? He(Lewis) wont be able to score enough constructors points!......The assumption was that the drivers title was his for the taking. He didnt like having his perception changed in such a public and humiliating fasion.
I doubt Lewis will ask for equality. Why should he? he considers himself to be the best driver and wants to win by proving that.
You say if you are a driver who wants to be a champion you go where the best chance is- I agree. Yet Lewis gets slated for lookng out for himself

[EwanM]

the Spanish god should stay at Renault and use his super technical powers and make them fast just as he made them so in 05 and 06!

Not working this year is it

Look at those Hamiltonites glowing red-hot...

Totally agree with you nikon. I feel Hamilton isn't as squeaky clean as what the rest claim. He was envolved in that mess last year and was certainly one of the leading causes behind it.
I feel that he'll jump ship eventually if he doesn't get his own way, heck if he starts getting beaten by his team mate he may start trying to pull and "Alonso" and call for no1 status, what will everyone say then?

Seriously Schumacher seems to me to be an exception. If you are a driver wanting to be champion, you go where you have the best chance.

The only thing Lewis did last year was to drive a hell of a lot faster than anyone expected him to and therin lay the problem. Do you know what Alonso said when he knew Lewis was geting the drive.....What about the constructors? He(Lewis) wont be able to score enough constructors points!......The assumption was that the drivers title was his for the taking. He didnt like having his perception changed in such a public and humiliating fasion.
I doubt Lewis will ask for equality. Why should he? he considers himself to be the best driver and wants to win by proving that.
You say if you are a driver who wants to be a champion you go where the best chance is- I agree. Yet Lewis gets slated for lookng out for himself

LOL, I think our wires are crossed here. Alonso's no saint and unlike many, I do believe that he was to blame for a lot of what went on at Mclaren - maybe even most of it. But you can't deny Lewis won't start playing up if Kovy started consistantly beating him? It's in racing drivers nature to do that. Alonso took it to the extremes, but who knows what will happen in the future.

[racechick]

the Spanish god should stay at Renault and use his super technical powers and make them fast just as he made them so in 05 and 06!

Not working this year is it

Look at those Hamiltonites glowing red-hot...

Totally agree with you nikon. I feel Hamilton isn't as squeaky clean as what the rest claim. He was envolved in that mess last year and was certainly one of the leading causes behind it.
I feel that he'll jump ship eventually if he doesn't get his own way, heck if he starts getting beaten by his team mate he may start trying to pull and "Alonso" and call for no1 status, what will everyone say then?

Seriously Schumacher seems to me to be an exception. If you are a driver wanting to be champion, you go where you have the best chance.

The only thing Lewis did last year was to drive a hell of a lot faster than anyone expected him to and therin lay the problem. Do you know what Alonso said when he knew Lewis was geting the drive.....What about the constructors? He(Lewis) wont be able to score enough constructors points!......The assumption was that the drivers title was his for the taking. He didnt like having his perception changed in such a public and humiliating fasion.
I doubt Lewis will ask for equality. Why should he? he considers himself to be the best driver and wants to win by proving that.
You say if you are a driver who wants to be a champion you go where the best chance is- I agree. Yet Lewis gets slated for lookng out for himself

LOL, I think our wires are crossed here. Alonso's no saint and unlike many, I do believe that he was to blame for a lot of what went on at Mclaren - maybe even most of it. But you can't deny Lewis won't start playing up if Kovy started consistantly beating him? It's in racing drivers nature to do that. Alonso took it to the extremes, but who knows what will happen in the future.

Yes thats very true. Who knows what will happen.
Like to think he'd not do that tho.