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[What's Burning?]

I like how 90% of the discussion has revolved around everyone but the snot bag kid.

[bud]

I like how 90% of the discussion has revolved around everyone but the snot bag kid.

Politically correct lusers...

[acosmichippo]

I like how 90% of the discussion has revolved around everyone but the snot bag kid.

That's because everyone agrees he's a snot bag kid.

It's not about being "politically correct". It's about taking the safest course of action for everyone involved, and the most profitable long-term action for the company.

[Hammer278]

And the fault really has to come back to the ticket guy who was the official person who should have dealt with it.

No it doesn't. The ticket collector did everything he was trained to do i.e. try and reason with a moron. If a member of the public takes it upon themselves to step in then that's their issue, not the ticket collectors. It's not as if the big yin was another kid, they are a mature adult so they knew exactly what they were doing.

Its NOT their issue....no member of the general public has the right to take the law in their own hands. Where do you live btw?

The ticket collector should have the right to kick the kid out, and that too not by himself - it has to involve the proper authorities...security guard at the station? Police even? IF force is required.

In this instance force was not required as yet, as the passengers were only getting delayed. It was not an emergency situation and no one in that train had any right to manhandle the kid.

[bud]

C'mon Hammer the kid was basically stealing! You telling me if you saw a crime happen you'd do nothing?

I have no sympathy for the little s***, he should learn some respect! I commend the guy for kicking him out! And to hell with fears of safety for the little s***! If he paid then no problems for him.

[Hammer278]

I have no sympathy for the kid either, in fact I'd be happier if I saw a footage of him bleeding and crying on the platform. Call me sadistic.

I commend the guy as well. But in terms of rules, he took a risk in playing a part. In overall terms he did everyone a huge favour but it could turn the other way on him (as is happening now...there's a lot of activity against him now as scotty mentioned?) Morally, he did the right thing...legally, surely not.

[acosmichippo]

He did not do the right thing morally. I'm sure he did it with good intentions, but didn't put any thought into the possible consequences of his actions. Those of us making the "safety" point are not doing so just for the sake of the kid, but for the entire group of people on that train car.

If I were on that train, I sure as hell wouldn't want some schmoe stirring s*** up on my behalf without knowing anything about the kid with a seriously bad attitude. He was clearly looking to start trouble, so who knows what he might have been planning. With the recent rioting over there, I'd think you guys would take this point a little more seriously.

[What's Burning?]

I think you guys are missing the point, whether it's terrorism or heroism, if people "thought" about the consequences, it's likely that they would not act on them. It's obvious the kid didn't think about the consequence when he didn't buy a ticket or more likely gave two sh!ts about the consequences.

The only reason I'd support the proper authorities doing their job instead of this random big guy passenger on the train doing it, is because they could have charged the punk and made him spend a night in jail until someone came to pick him up.

People tend to do things because they feel it's the right thing to do at that point in time, there's a lot of factors that go into that decision, and it's likely they wouldn't repeat the action in another time or another scenario. Let's put things into perspective people, if someone falls into the train tracks at a subway, when a train is coming, and the folks standing on the platform wait to pull the guy out because it's not their job or it's not the proper procedure, what happens to humanity?

[bud]

Kicking a thief off a train is morally wrong? Ok...

What's to know about the kid Acco? He wanted a free ride, didn't want to pay, refused to pay, refused to get off when asked to by the ticket Inspector. Pretty strait forward what's to know about him. Seriously now youre bringing up the riots in London to a scene in Edinburgh? So no one should question any youth who chooses to break the law? Sorry that just sounds gutless to me.

[acosmichippo]

Let's put things into perspective people, if someone falls into the train tracks at a subway, when a train is coming, and the folks standing on the platform wait to pull the guy out because it's not their job or it's not the proper procedure, what happens to humanity?

Sorry, but that's a horribly dumb comparison. I'm surprised, honestly.

[What's Burning?]

Sorry, but that's a horribly dumb comparison. I'm surprised, honestly.

Not as surprised at you'd be when the train is coming and you're asking for help.

[acosmichippo]

Kicking a thief off a train is morally wrong? Ok...

What's to know about the kid Acco? He wanted a free ride, didn't want to pay, refused to pay, refused to get off when asked to by the ticket Inspector. Pretty strait forward what's to know about him. Seriously now youre bringing up the riots in London to a scene in Edinburgh? So no one should question any youth who chooses to break the law? Sorry that just sounds gutless to me.

See my posts on the first page. You are now taking the discussion in circles.

[bud]

Kicking a thief off a train is morally wrong? Ok...

What's to know about the kid Acco? He wanted a free ride, didn't want to pay, refused to pay, refused to get off when asked to by the ticket Inspector. Pretty strait forward what's to know about him. Seriously now youre bringing up the riots in London to a scene in Edinburgh? So no one should question any youth who chooses to break the law? Sorry that just sounds gutless to me.

See my posts on the first page. You are now taking the discussion in circles.

That's ok I like circles.

[texasmr2]

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This vid has gone pretty viral in the UK this week, and seems to be causing a fair bit of debate...

My view? If you're going to try and break the law, then be a loudmouth turd when you get found out AND risk pissing off a load of honest paying people, all bets are off and you deserve what you get. I found this video brilliantly hilarious.

I'm surprised he did not get ejected sooner and I commend the train steward and the gentleman who performed the ejecting task.

Kinda of related in the sense that two weeks ago I was with a friend and he stopped at a CVS while I stayed in the car. Immediately I notice a BMW 740 in a handicapped space (sporting huge chrome wheels so I knew it was a scofflaw) with its hazards on and it sported no disabled plate nor placard so I went inside an informed the manager. He announced it over the intercom and I waited outside and low and behold it was some punk trying to be gangster looking and that was my opening.

Even though I was off duty I am still sworn to uphold the laws of Texas (24/7 & 365) so I asked him where are your disabled qualifications as hazard lights are only be used in a hazardous situation. I then informed him that I am a police officer and would appreciate him not parking there because actual disabled people need those spaces. His reply was as it should have been "sorry sir, sorry sir." Will he do it again of course he will but decent law abiding folks the world over should standup more.

My friend bud would have loved it as he don't take no crap not even from me .

[acosmichippo]

Txmr2, in that situation, would you have supported a random guy taking the punk's keys and moving his car for him? Or would you rather that random guy leave stuff like that to professionals, such as yourself, to handle the situation properly?