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[mnmracer]

What did I miss then? He wasn't give a grid-penalty or a time-penalty, so I'm not sure what you're referring to.

[What's Burning?]

What did I miss then? He wasn't give a grid-penalty or a time-penalty, so I'm not sure what you're referring to.

The point is that this year, it's a three reprimands and you pay a price type of deal, so they do count for something.

[mnmracer]

What did I miss then? He wasn't give a grid-penalty or a time-penalty, so I'm not sure what you're referring to.

The point is that this year, it's a three reprimands and you pay a price type of deal, so they do count for something.

While I know that, I don't know what this price was that he paid, if any at all.
That kind of makes it hard to staticize (sp?).

[bud]

TS can remove No.2 because that's just dumb...

It still happened

It's an invalidated lap not a penalty. Big difference.

[mnmracer]

TS can remove No.2 because that's just dumb...

It still happened

It's an invalidated lap not a penalty. Big difference.

Yeah ok, I can see it that way.
If you consider it so, it's a tie record with his 2008 season.

[bud]

TS can remove No.2 because that's just dumb...

It still happened

It's an invalidated lap not a penalty. Big difference.

Yeah ok, I can see it that way.
If you consider it so, it's a tie record with his 2008 season.

Given his current form no doubt he will break it in the next four races. Vettel hould also stand alone with most race wins in a season.

Edit: Vettel not Vetted... Damn predicted text

[mnmracer]

TS can remove No.2 because that's just dumb...

It still happened

It's an invalidated lap not a penalty. Big difference.

Yeah ok, I can see it that way.
If you consider it so, it's a tie record with his 2008 season.

Given his current form no doubt he will break it in the next four races. Vetted should also stand alone with most race wins in a season.

I've actually just compiled the list of records that can still be broken this year (doing a big list of everything this year when the season's over).
Anyone interested in it (and if so, in here or separate topic I can update and people can track for the remaining races?)

[bud]

Of course let's see

[Timekeeper]

TS can remove No.2 because that's just dumb...

It still happened

It's an invalidated lap not a penalty. Big difference.

Yeah ok, I can see it that way.
If you consider it so, it's a tie record with his 2008 season.

Given his current form no doubt he will break it in the next four races. Vetted should also stand alone with most race wins in a season.

I've actually just compiled the list of records that can still be broken this year (doing a big list of everything this year when the season's over).
Anyone interested in it (and if so, in here or separate topic I can update and people can track for the remaining races?)

Definitely! Post it up!

[What's Burning?]

What did I miss then? He wasn't give a grid-penalty or a time-penalty, so I'm not sure what you're referring to.

The point is that this year, it's a three reprimands and you pay a price type of deal, so they do count for something.

While I know that, I don't know what this price was that he paid, if any at all.
That kind of makes it hard to staticize (sp?).

Yeah it does, but having two reprimands has to have some weight in someone's mind, even if the pressure of it is not at the forefront. Regardless, it's all subjective. How many inconstant penalties have we seen this season? Too light, too severe, not at all when it was clearly deserved, or worse, split into a 50/50 when it was more 90/10 or simply given because it was Hamilton, and well, it was Hamilton. We've seen time and time again some races where they're allowed to race and some races were there's a two for one sale on them.

The best example I can think of is Canada, it was one of the best races this year, and yet would the eventual winner of that race won had he served a penalty for both Hamilton's contact and Alonso's force spin? So my point is, that this is a pretty sad record, all a driver can do when issued a penalty is serve it an move on. If it ruins a race, so be it, if it doesn't then you got off lucky. But to give the number any more weight than it deserves is a joke, because the lack of consistency in enforcement from race to race is embarrassing for the sport. That's where the real infamy for this penalty record lies, not in the drivers that serve them.

[andrew]

The next record to fall will probably be Mika Hakkinen's number of wins. One more win and Vettel equals Hakkinen's 20.

[racechick]

What did I miss then? He wasn't give a grid-penalty or a time-penalty, so I'm not sure what you're referring to.

The point is that this year, it's a three reprimands and you pay a price type of deal, so they do count for something.

While I know that, I don't know what this price was that he paid, if any at all.
That kind of makes it hard to staticize (sp?).

Yeah it does, but having two reprimands has to have some weight in someone's mind, even if the pressure of it is not at the forefront. Regardless, it's all subjective. How many inconstant penalties have we seen this season? Too light, too severe, not at all when it was clearly deserved, or worse, split into a 50/50 when it was more 90/10 or simply given because it was Hamilton, and well, it was Hamilton. We've seen time and time again some races where they're allowed to race and some races were there's a two for one sale on them.

The best example I can think of is Canada, it was one of the best races this year, and yet would the eventual winner of that race won had he served a penalty for both Hamilton's contact and Alonso's force spin? So my point is, that this is a pretty sad record, all a driver can do when issued a penalty is serve it an move on. If it ruins a race, so be it, if it doesn't then you got off lucky. But to give the number any more weight than it deserves is a joke, because the lack of consistency in enforcement from race to race is embarrassing for the sport. That's where the real infamy for this penalty record lies, not in the drivers that serve them.

Absolutely! Well said WB