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[Big Azza]

Yeah, well if you looked at it without this other knowledge of the team's rules, even I would admit it's Vettel's fault. Even now I'm still admitting it's Vettel's fault but Webber should simply have let Vettel past, for the good of the WCC.

[nish2280]

but then what right does vettel think he had to just try and barge mark out of the way at turkey.....sorry mate but.........

The internal rule is that the drivers may race each other as long as they don't get in each other's way. Webber clearly did that. Webber should have just outdragged his team-mate, not force him wide....

But yes, the impetuous youth of Sebastian Vettel meant he didn't look first, so that was a mistake on his part...

well the thing is mark held his line...prehaps he could have moved slightly but then really it all started when his race engineer didnt tell him that vettel had turned his engine map up....according to autosport june 3

Vettel thought he was past Webber when actually he wasnt. He pulled out and webber's front wing spun Seb. Racing Incident.

Also how is that not similar to the Lewis-Webber incident at singapore? Webber was in the blind spot holding his line, result? INCIDENT.

If you think that was Seb's fault but not Lewis's then you are sadly mislead.

[Big Azza]

No I'm one of the only ones on here who knows that Singapore was Lewis' fault. Both were racing incidents. Seb was more responsible in Turkey, Hamilton more responsible in Singapore.

BTW - hats off to Mark for keeping his cool at that point in the race. That could have spoiled his World Chapionship...

[Denthúl]

No I'm one of the only ones on here who knows that Singapore was Lewis' fault. Both were racing incidents. Seb was more responsible in Turkey, Hamilton more responsible in Singapore.

BTW - hats off to Mark for keeping his cool at that point in the race. That could have spoiled his World Chapionship...

Yeah, it reminded me a lot of Turkey. He did very well to get straight back on track, on to the radio and in to the pits in order to salvage a third place finish. I think, mentally, he is strong enough to win the championship. If he gets just one more win, I think it's his.

[Big Azza]

lol

I just joined the Sebastian Vettel fansite forum and rule number 8 is "ranting about the incident at the Turkish GP is banned!"

[myownalias]

lol

I just joined the Sebastian Vettel fansite forum and rule number 8 is "ranting about the incident at the Turkish GP is banned!"

Is it OK to rant about him T-Boning Jenson in Spa?

[What's Burning?]

lol

I just joined the Sebastian Vettel fansite forum and rule number 8 is "ranting about the incident at the Turkish GP is banned!"

Rule number 23 is that you don't discuss the fan site rule on other forums.(a friend of a friend is a member too) They might forgive you since you're a new member and may not have gotten through all the rules yet.

But please come here and tell us who his next victim is going to be if they give the fan club advanced notice.

[racechick]

lol

I just joined the Sebastian Vettel fansite forum and rule number 8 is "ranting about the incident at the Turkish GP is banned!"

Rule number 23 is that you don't discuss the fan site rule on other forums.(a friend of a friend is a member too) They might forgive you since you're a new member and may not have gotten through all the rules yet.

But please come here and tell us who his next victim is going to be if they give the fan club advanced notice.

Its obvious, Its Alonso's turn! Hes had his team mate, had a McLaren. Now Alonso's turn

[Robert12010]

Yeah, well if you looked at it without this other knowledge of the team's rules, even I would admit it's Vettel's fault. Even now I'm still admitting it's Vettel's fault but Webber should simply have let Vettel past, for the good of the WCC.

i agree with that its about the teams like EJ says, because thats where the money comes from, the final standings of the constructors......

[Robert12010]

but then what right does vettel think he had to just try and barge mark out of the way at turkey.....sorry mate but.........

The internal rule is that the drivers may race each other as long as they don't get in each other's way. Webber clearly did that. Webber should have just outdragged his team-mate, not force him wide....

But yes, the impetuous youth of Sebastian Vettel meant he didn't look first, so that was a mistake on his part...

well the thing is mark held his line...prehaps he could have moved slightly but then really it all started when his race engineer didnt tell him that vettel had turned his engine map up....according to autosport june 3

Vettel thought he was past Webber when actually he wasnt. He pulled out and webber's front wing spun Seb. Racing Incident.

Also how is that not similar to the Lewis-Webber incident at singapore? Webber was in the blind spot holding his line, result? INCIDENT.

If you think that was Seb's fault but not Lewis's then you are sadly mislead.

true there mate...lewis was slighty a bit too gun ho on that ocassion and nothing will change that because thats lewis!
and that probaly goes for vettel too....it was vettel's fault but it was a big mistake of ciaron pillbeam not to say to webber that vettel had turned his engine map up!

[nish2280]

lol

I just joined the Sebastian Vettel fansite forum and rule number 8 is "ranting about the incident at the Turkish GP is banned!"

Rule number 23 is that you don't discuss the fan site rule on other forums.(a friend of a friend is a member too) They might forgive you since you're a new member and may not have gotten through all the rules yet.

But please come here and tell us who his next victim is going to be if they give the fan club advanced notice.

Its obvious, Its Alonso's turn! Hes had his team mate, had a McLaren. Now Alonso's turn

No i think its Lewis's turn. I dont think Lewis fans have a decent reason to hate Vettel enough at the moment (though they do anyway) so he should give them one.

[Robert12010]

im a lewis fan but i dont hate sebb to be honest

[vaptin]

lol

I just joined the Sebastian Vettel fansite forum and rule number 8 is "ranting about the incident at the Turkish GP is banned!"

Rule number 23 is that you don't discuss the fan site rule on other forums.(a friend of a friend is a member too) They might forgive you since you're a new member and may not have gotten through all the rules yet.

But please come here and tell us who his next victim is going to be if they give the fan club advanced notice.

Its obvious, Its Alonso's turn! Hes had his team mate, had a McLaren. Now Alonso's turn

He'd have to do a good job, Ferrari make Alonso's Ferrari extra strong cos it tends to go through a lot of contact, not only that, by Alonso would flay the life out of Vettel afterward.

[racechick]

lol

I just joined the Sebastian Vettel fansite forum and rule number 8 is "ranting about the incident at the Turkish GP is banned!"

Rule number 23 is that you don't discuss the fan site rule on other forums.(a friend of a friend is a member too) They might forgive you since you're a new member and may not have gotten through all the rules yet.

But please come here and tell us who his next victim is going to be if they give the fan club advanced notice.

Its obvious, Its Alonso's turn! Hes had his team mate, had a McLaren. Now Alonso's turn

He'd have to do a good job, Ferrari make Alonso's Ferrari extra strong cos it tends to go through a lot of contact, not only that, by Alonso would flay the life out of Vettel afterward.

He's getting better at it though
On Webber - start to overtake then nudge the wheel over
On Jenson - start to overtake then veer violently so that pointy bit of car hits the side of jens
On Alonso - start to overtake, actualy overtake completely, then do a 180 and hit pointy bit to pointy bit
Logical progression.

[What's Burning?]

On Webber - start to overtake then nudge the wheel over
On Jenson - start to overtake then veer violently so that pointy bit of car hits the side of jens
On Alonso - start to overtake, actualy overtake completely, then do a 180 and hit pointy bit to pointy bit
Logical progression.

Is that what the engineers call it... the pointy bit?