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[Gaz]

Your what 17? christ come back when you've lived a little rather than being high and mighty on your soap box of rightousness.

I can't wait till your put in a positon like that, i think you'll suprise yourself when pressure is put on you.

Ageism, really?

REALLY?

Well, if that's how you want to play it, go ahead.

Not ageism mate i'm talking from experience, you've not lived long enough to have been in that positon i expect.

Simply because your only just old enough to work.

I'm old enough to know right from wrong and where I draw the line. Lewis is 7 years older. I would expect him to be as well.

And like i've said as soon as you get some pressure comming your way unless your really really good at dealing with that your whole sense of right and wrong goes flying out the window mate.

[Gaz]

Here we go again: Hamilton was naive. Get a life.

yeh thanks mate...

so because i disagree with you slightly i need to get a life?

I just am staggered at how many people seriously buy into the view Hamilton was mislead. I find that excuse vomit-inducing and offensive.

Why do you find it so hard to belive?

Do you think he pushed Mclaren into it?

[Jensonb]

Here we go again: Hamilton was naive. Get a life.

yeh thanks mate...

so because i disagree with you slightly i need to get a life?

I just am staggered at how many people seriously buy into the view Hamilton was mislead. I find that excuse vomit-inducing and offensive.

Why do you find it so hard to belive?

Do you think he pushed Mclaren into it?

No, I think he's saying it's preposterous to believe an adult was "misled" into lying about a situation he was fully understanding of.

That's certainly my assessment

[McLaren Fan]

I've already explained this. If Ryan was the one who decided not to tell the full story, Hamilton, rather than being a lamb, thought it was a good idea and went along with it in full knowledge. For Hamilton to claim he was misled is a cop out and completely implausible.

[Jensonb]

I've already explained this. If Ryan was the one who decided not to tell the full story, Hamilton, rather than being a lamb, thought it was a good idea and went along with it in full knowledge. For Hamilton to claim he was misled is a cop out and completely implausible.

[Gaz]

I've already explained this. If Ryan was the one who decided not to tell the full story, Hamilton, rather than being a lamb, thought it was a good idea and went along with it in full knowledge. For Hamilton to claim he was misled is a cop out and completely implausible.

Yeh but hes know ryan for 12 years, and hes a senior member of the team.

If hes saying "it will be ok" and "were going to do this" i can see somone being mislead into doing somthing like that.

My Argument is the team should be the ones to say NO were not doing that.

Rather than suggest do a driver they should do these things.

A driver is there to score the points and bring the car home in a good a positon as possible Hamilton did that but was let down by the team on the track by being given bad advice, then again in the stewards meeting.

I can belive Hamilton was co-erced into it, but if he wasn't, hell even if it was his idea! shouldn't the team be the ones to say NO.

[racechick]

I've already explained this. If Ryan was the one who decided not to tell the full story, Hamilton, rather than being a lamb, thought it was a good idea and went along with it in full knowledge. For Hamilton to claim he was misled is a cop out and completely implausible.

Yeh but hes know ryan for 12 years, and hes a senior member of the team.

If hes saying "it will be ok" and "were going to do this" i can see somone being mislead into doing somthing like that.

My Argument is the team should be the ones to say NO were not doing that.

Rather than suggest do a driver they should do these things.

A driver is there to score the points and bring the car home in a good a positon as possible Hamilton did that but was let down by the team on the track by being given bad advice, then again in the stewards meeting.

I can belive Hamilton was co-erced into it, but if he wasn't, hell even if it was his idea! shouldn't the team be the ones to say NO.

[McLaren Fan]

I've already explained this. If Ryan was the one who decided not to tell the full story, Hamilton, rather than being a lamb, thought it was a good idea and went along with it in full knowledge. For Hamilton to claim he was misled is a cop out and completely implausible.

Yeh but hes know ryan for 12 years, and hes a senior member of the team.

If hes saying "it will be ok" and "were going to do this" i can see somone being mislead into doing somthing like that.

My Argument is the team should be the ones to say NO were not doing that.

Rather than suggest do a driver they should do these things.

A driver is there to score the points and bring the car home in a good a positon as possible Hamilton did that but was let down by the team on the track by being given bad advice, then again in the stewards meeting.

I can belive Hamilton was co-erced into it, but if he wasn't, hell even if it was his idea! shouldn't the team be the ones to say NO.

Why could Hamilton not say no? He and his father present themselves as the moral centre of the sporting world.

Why do you think Hamilton is a team player? Have you not learned of his attempts to leave the team? Did you see the 2007 Hungarian Grand Prix?

[Gaz]

i'm not sure i belive theres truth in the rumors about him leaving.

as for hungary i think that was the fact he was in a racing car and hes an agressive young driver who wanted to win.

And alonso reacted in the same way back. I think that was more against the Alonso rather than the team.

[McLaren Fan]

as for hungary i think that was the fact he was in a racing car and hes an agressive young driver who wanted to win.

I rest my case.

[racechick]

as for hungary i think that was the fact he was in a racing car and hes an agressive young driver who wanted to win.

I rest my case.

What, you'd run passive drivers who don't want to win!

[Gaz]

as for hungary i think that was the fact he was in a racing car and hes an agressive young driver who wanted to win.

I rest my case.

So hamilton is so agressive that he controls Mclaren and forces people to do his bidding?

lol come on man now whos delisional.

[Jensonb]

as for hungary i think that was the fact he was in a racing car and hes an agressive young driver who wanted to win.

I rest my case.

What, you'd run passive drivers who don't want to win!

Uh, no, I think he's saying the idea he went into the Stewards' meeting and passively accepted what Dave told him to like an infant is ridiculous and that lewis went along with it willingly because he wanted an extra point (And a trophy)

[racechick]

as for hungary i think that was the fact he was in a racing car and hes an agressive young driver who wanted to win.

I rest my case.

What, you'd run passive drivers who don't want to win!

Uh, no, I think he's saying the idea he went into the Stewards' meeting and passively accepted what Dave told him to like an infant is ridiculous and that lewis went along with it willingly because he wanted an extra point (And a trophy)

Well only two people know the answer to that question dont they

[McLaren Fan]

No. Hamilton wants to win or get the best result possible. To do so, he's prepared to use almost any means. In this case, he knowingly conspired with Ryan to lie in order to get a podium spot, completely unfased by the fact that Trulli was going to drop well down the race results and have his own reputation smeared.