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By What's Burning?
#392365
Weren't the lubricants good enough for the V8 engines? Don't the new engines run a lower RPM?
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By bud
#392370

The other difference is lubricants, Mobil vs Petronas. They can play a part in performance.


Petronas is a partner of Mercedes, won't their lubricant be tailor made for what the PU requires....Lowe has repeated time and time again that Petronas was involved from the start of the project and have contributed their inputs as well. No mention of Mobil anywhere naturally, Mobil's best bet is to get little samples from Petronas and copy it for 'best effects'.


I don't see Mobil copying any thing Petronas contributes, they have been involved in F1 a long long time, I am sure they are quite capable of extracting the best performance even if they no longer work in collaboration with the guys at Ilmor anymore. But like WB mentioned the performance differential wouldn't be that great, but there is room there for a difference between the Merc teams.
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By racechick
#392381
Lewis trying to play down comments that Mercedes are perceived as the ones to beat but somehow can't keep the excitements completely out of his comments.....very positive :D
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... ostpopular
By CookinFlat6
#392385
Merc have done an absolute monstering of the new regs.
They are do far ahead in reliability and speed that for anyone to catch up they would have to completely implode, even if they just stood still Button says the McLaren in his hands just cannot get within seconds if the Merc

What a great great job by Ross, Bob, Aldo, Niki, Lewis, Nico and ofcourse the long suffering fans :thumbup:
By Hammer278
#392386
Merc have done an absolute monstering of the new regs.
They are do far ahead in reliability and speed that for anyone to catch up they would have to completely implode, even if they just stood still Button says the McLaren in his hands just cannot get within seconds if the Merc

What a great great job by Ross, Bob, Aldo, Niki, Lewis, Nico and ofcourse the long suffering fans :thumbup:


All the result of "too many chefs".
By CookinFlat6
#392388
Just as well the thought of all those chefs and the tyre munching didn't put Lewis off when trying work out the best place to be for the new engine regs of 2014
Maybe they will go backwards like they did in the past

Lewis also says this car suits his driving style :hooli-popcorn:
By What's Burning?
#392407
I can't wait. :D

Let's keep in mind, this was the year that Brawn sold Hamilton on.
By Hammer278
#392423
I can't wait. :D

Let's keep in mind, this was the year that Brawn sold Hamilton on.


Wasn't it Herr Lauda?
By Hammer278
#392733
Translated from a German website.

Rosberg fastest despite the error

The numbers speak for themselves. The Mercedes driver Nico Rosberg and Lewis Hamilton turned 315 laps on four days in Bahrain. They occupied positions 3, 4, 1 and 1 Rosberg sat with 1:33.283 minutes, the absolute fastest time in this test. She lay at 1.627 seconds at the second fastest time , driven by Kevin Magnussen on the second day of testing .

But while the Dane was traveling with super soft tires , Rosberg handed in his qualifying attempt the mixture "soft " . And there have been even better . "I have made ​​a mistake in my fastest lap in the last corner , we had a conservative cooling specification has it cost what output , and I have omitted the planned third attempt with soft tires. "

Red Bull 6.5 seconds slower
About noon Rosberg reeled from a race distance . With two pit stops and within the prescribed limit of 100 kg of fuel for 57 laps . It felt as if Mercedes still on the road in the V8 era. "Better than expected," breathed on Project Aldo Costa . But he also warns: " The times of the Renault team are not yet representative There comes certain something . . "

Can you be so sure of that? Red Bull has brought it to four days only 116 rounds. After Sebastian Vettel's interim high on Thursday, with Daniel Ricciardo you fell back into old bad habits . On Friday gearbox trouble on Saturday again the drive . Ricciardo's best time of 1.39,837 minutes acts as a value from GP2 compared to Rosberg's record lap .

Mercedes stood firm, but not bulletproof
Rosberg made ​​the evening of the eighth day of testing a contented face : . . " I already feel at home in my car and I have it set up so hingetrimmt that it fits well for me When the brake balance , we have improved a lot compared to Jerez is but still not perfect . The system is simple scary complex. "

The Mercedes is back and standing back. But he rarely spends more than two hours at a time in the garage. Everything gives the impression as if you had the technical monster under control. Rosberg still warns : "At the moment we see the greatest impact , but the absolute reliability, it is still a long way We are determined not bulletproof Melbourne is also a huge challenge for us . . . . "

Race slowly feels
In his race simulation Rosberg made ​​first acquaintance with the subject of saving fuel . The difference to a qualifying round is huge. Most lap times in the race were 1:39 to 1:42 minutes. So six to nine seconds slower than the Tagesbestwert .

"Sometimes it feels already slowly. , The computer gives you a direction in front , but you 'll still have enough to do as a driver. You choose , in consultation with the engineer that the motor ratings fields , you go past the gas or are driving at higher passes through the curves. on the dashboard , you can always track the current fuel level , but of course you do not know what's coming and what fuel window is optimal for the rest of the race . "

New Mercedes- nose for last week of testing
The AMG Mercedes W05 saw in the first week of testing of Bahrain from not much different than in Jerez . The basic work is now complete. Next week the first major upgrade comes to the car . We have heard that a new nose with it. It should be slightly lower, but interfere with the front wing still less because the suspension points are further back. Only then will you see how fast the cars really are. Maybe then falls even Rosberg's pole position from the previous year . The stands at 1.32,330 minutes.
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By 1Lemon
#392734
If I were a Merc fan (I am a fan of the engine as it's powering the Williams), I would be very hesitant right now; yeah it's looking incredibly good for this upcoming season BUT the first race hasn't even started yet; I wouldn't want to add a commentators curse on my team. It's looking good but never say never in F1.
By CookinFlat6
#392736
Thanks for that pearl of wisdom :thumbup:

I agree that despite the Merc engine Williams have no certainty of advancement
By Hammer278
#392738
If I were a Merc fan (I am a fan of the engine as it's powering the Williams), I would be very hesitant right now; yeah it's looking incredibly good for this upcoming season BUT the first race hasn't even started yet; I wouldn't want to add a commentators curse on my team. It's looking good but never say never in F1.


I posted an article which I came across in the Merc thread...is there a problem with this? :confused:

If people are confident/overconfident/hopeless, each to their own reg how they prefer to approach a new season.
By What's Burning?
#392739
GPUpdate Mercedes chief Paddy Lowe reckons Mercedes will be in a position to do "very well" at the opening race of the season in Australia, with the Silver Arrows enjoying a positive start to the pre-season testing period.

Aside from the opening day of testing at Jerez, a Mercedes-powered machine has set the standard, and the German brand's factory outfit comfortably led the way with Nico Rosberg and Lewis Hamilton in Bahrain.

Although the team has been playing down suggestions that it is the favourite heading into the new campaign, Lowe says he has now seen enough to feel confident of delivering a strong performance at Albert Park.

"The strongest teams out there are the Mercedes-powered teams," Lowe said in an interview with Sky Sports. "The Ferrari is also looking strong, so those are the people we are watching and trying to measure against.

"In this business, even after Practice 1 and Practice 2 on a Friday you can't predict what the grid will look like, and so there are a lot of uncertainties. But we definitely feel we are quick and in contention to do very well in Melbourne if we can keep pressing further updates to the car and making sure it is reliable."

Excluding Hamilton, Rosberg's best time in Bahrain was 1.674 seconds clear of nearest rival Jenson Button.
By CookinFlat6
#392740
It would be really handy when trying to pee on ones parade to bring some hard facts. Instead of a general 'its too early to speculate', 'its wrong to be optimistic', 'its foolish to read into testing', 'theres nothing wrong at x team', 'whats the point predicting anything?', 'lets all just talk about positive things about team x'

basically saying 'discuss your team the way I want, and not the way you want, and to suit my whim that day'

and then its ofcourse the same ones who complain when true FACTS are discussed on Team X thread

So its ok to come to the Merc thread and suggest how to go about discussing the team, and to suggest not to be so positive, but its wrong to go to another thread and discuss facts that are not positive

:jokers:
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By 1Lemon
#392741
QUCIK DEFENCE!

I was just saying that the amount of optimism you chaps are showing, however justified from the pre-season tests, can come back and bite you on the bottom if they don't do as well as you all expect it to.

Nothing wrong with stating facts, at no point did I come into your thread and say that facts shouldn't be said; it is a fact, plain and simple, that Merc do look the best in pre-season, but it is also a fact McLaren did last year too, as did Williams.

But you can go ahead and put words in my mouth about only discussing things the way that I want, or how you shouldn't state any facts or how we shouldn't read into testing; I was simply saying there is no guarantee that the exceptional form of Merc in Pre-season will continue into the whole season or even the first race.
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