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[bud]

Believe what you want if it helps you sleep at night. Im really sick of discussing this topic I think its spans across 4 threads now. End of the day the two examples do not compare to one another, Heikki was not leading a race and the team made him give up the race win. All he did was not fight Lewis for position after his pit stop. Lewis then went on to pass two more cars and take the race win. So i suspect he needed team orders to pass them if Heikki was going to be so hard to pass? You guys are a joke. Bye

[Sea Bass]

Believe what you want if it helps you sleep at night. Im really sick of discussing this topic I think its spans across 4 threads now. End of the day the two examples do not compare to one another, Heikki was not leading a race and the team made him give up the race win. All he did was not fight Lewis for position after his pit stop. Lewis then went on to pass two more cars and take the race win. So i suspect he needed team orders to pass them if Heikki was going to be so hard to pass? You guys are a joke. Bye

You don't need to start crying and start throwing around insults because people don't have the same view as you.

Both were team orders. You can't deny that.

[bud]

You don't need to start crying and start throwing around insults because people don't have the same view as you.

crying and throwing insults? please!! both accusations are far from the truth.

[Denthúl]

Fernando is not deserving, he should only be 1 point up right now not 8! Its a farse of sport that he is 8 ahead!

Every team uses team orders, every team is capable of using them. Ferrari did so, and it worked out.

Hekki moved over for Hamilton didn't he? No, it only counts when Ferrari do it and not Mclaren doesn't it?

That was not even remotely the same

Yeah Vaptin, its "not even remotely the same"

If you like, I'll give you the very simple Bud-rule to work out when Team Orders are ok and when they are an abomination against nature.

IF team-orders = "by Ferrari"
THEN = team and Tifosi should be executed at dawn (but keep their food)

IF team-orders = "by McLaren"
THEN deny, excuse, say its different circumstances AND its "all ok" in fact, go ahead and praise team and drivers

Holy crap I ran that in Javascript and world imploded.

That has nothing to do with spanky's logic, but more your choice of language/interpreter

Also, I don't remember bud complaining when Raikkonen let Massa past in China back in 2008...

[Sea Bass]

You don't need to start crying and start throwing around insults because people don't have the same view as you.

crying and throwing insults? please!! both accusations are far from the truth.

I wouldn't label people as a joke.

[Gaz]

Believe what you want if it helps you sleep at night. Im really sick of discussing this topic I think its spans across 4 threads now. End of the day the two examples do not compare to one another, Heikki was not leading a race and the team made him give up the race win. All he did was not fight Lewis for position after his pit stop. Lewis then went on to pass two more cars and take the race win. So i suspect he needed team orders to pass them if Heikki was going to be so hard to pass? You guys are a joke. Bye

You don't need to start crying and start throwing around insults because people don't have the same view as you.

Both were team orders. You can't deny that.

How was Hockenhiem 2008 a team order.

Massa v Alonso Hockenhiem 2010 Massa could and would of won the race.

Hekki could never of won the race and was stopping lewis from reaching 3rd he would of passed Hekki even if he made it hard he just didnt' fight since there was no gain for him really.

[kaizensuru]

Believe what you want if it helps you sleep at night. Im really sick of discussing this topic I think its spans across 4 threads now. End of the day the two examples do not compare to one another, Heikki was not leading a race and the team made him give up the race win. All he did was not fight Lewis for position after his pit stop. Lewis then went on to pass two more cars and take the race win. So i suspect he needed team orders to pass them if Heikki was going to be so hard to pass? You guys are a joke. Bye

You don't need to start crying and start throwing around insults because people don't have the same view as you.

Both were team orders. You can't deny that.

How was Hockenhiem 2008 a team order.

Massa v Alonso Hockenhiem 2010 Massa could and would of won the race.

Hekki could never of won the race and was stopping lewis from reaching 3rd he would of passed Hekki even if he made it hard he just didnt' fight since there was no gain for him really.

Excuse me, althought Im not native english I thought I was very familiar with the language, although I don't recognize things like "could of, would of", what the heck is that?

[Gaz]

Believe what you want if it helps you sleep at night. Im really sick of discussing this topic I think its spans across 4 threads now. End of the day the two examples do not compare to one another, Heikki was not leading a race and the team made him give up the race win. All he did was not fight Lewis for position after his pit stop. Lewis then went on to pass two more cars and take the race win. So i suspect he needed team orders to pass them if Heikki was going to be so hard to pass? You guys are a joke. Bye

You don't need to start crying and start throwing around insults because people don't have the same view as you.

Both were team orders. You can't deny that.

How was Hockenhiem 2008 a team order.

Massa v Alonso Hockenhiem 2010 Massa could and would of won the race.

Hekki could never of won the race and was stopping lewis from reaching 3rd he would of passed Hekki even if he made it hard he just didnt' fight since there was no gain for him really.

Excuse, althought Im not native english I am very familiar with the language, although I don't recognize things like "could of, would of", what the heck is that?

past-tense words for doing things

Lewis would of over taken hekkie - to say he would of passed hekki even if it was made difficult.

Hekki could never of - to say he wasn't able to do somthing such as pass 3 cars and win

[kaizensuru]

Believe what you want if it helps you sleep at night. Im really sick of discussing this topic I think its spans across 4 threads now. End of the day the two examples do not compare to one another, Heikki was not leading a race and the team made him give up the race win. All he did was not fight Lewis for position after his pit stop. Lewis then went on to pass two more cars and take the race win. So i suspect he needed team orders to pass them if Heikki was going to be so hard to pass? You guys are a joke. Bye

You don't need to start crying and start throwing around insults because people don't have the same view as you.

Both were team orders. You can't deny that.

How was Hockenhiem 2008 a team order.

Massa v Alonso Hockenhiem 2010 Massa could and would of won the race.

Hekki could never of won the race and was stopping lewis from reaching 3rd he would of passed Hekki even if he made it hard he just didnt' fight since there was no gain for him really.

Excuse, althought Im not native english I am very familiar with the language, although I don't recognize things like "could of, would of", what the heck is that?

past-tense words for doing things

Lewis would of over taken hekkie - to say he would of passed hekki even if it was made difficult.

Hekki could never of - to say he wasn't able to do somthing such as pass 3 cars and win

ohh, darn, you mean "would have" "could have"... What is this "of" overuse, a new forum trend?

[texasmr2]

What is this "of" overuse, a new forum trend?

I doubt your 10 days as a forum member here allows you to recognize 'trends' of this forum but in another 10 days you might .

[kaizensuru]

What is this "of" overuse, a new forum trend?

I doubt your 10 days as a forum member here allows you to recognize 'trends' of this forum but in another 10 days you might .

rofl, that's why I'm asking

[bud]

What is this "of" overuse, a new forum trend?

I doubt your 10 days as a forum member here allows you to recognize 'trends' of this forum but in another 10 days you might .

rofl, that's why I'm asking

when your argument reverts to grammatical issues you know you're losing.

[kaizensuru]

What is this "of" overuse, a new forum trend?

I doubt your 10 days as a forum member here allows you to recognize 'trends' of this forum but in another 10 days you might .

rofl, that's why I'm asking

when your argument reverts to grammatical issues you know you're losing.

Problem is, I wasn't even arguing

Now seriously, I got puzzled with so much would of could of... type it correctly!!

[texasmr2]

Not an issue and welcome to the forum .

[Gaz]

Believe what you want if it helps you sleep at night. Im really sick of discussing this topic I think its spans across 4 threads now. End of the day the two examples do not compare to one another, Heikki was not leading a race and the team made him give up the race win. All he did was not fight Lewis for position after his pit stop. Lewis then went on to pass two more cars and take the race win. So i suspect he needed team orders to pass them if Heikki was going to be so hard to pass? You guys are a joke. Bye

You don't need to start crying and start throwing around insults because people don't have the same view as you.

Both were team orders. You can't deny that.

How was Hockenhiem 2008 a team order.

Massa v Alonso Hockenhiem 2010 Massa could and would of won the race.

Hekki could never of won the race and was stopping lewis from reaching 3rd he would of passed Hekki even if he made it hard he just didnt' fight since there was no gain for him really.

Excuse, althought Im not native english I am very familiar with the language, although I don't recognize things like "could of, would of", what the heck is that?

past-tense words for doing things

Lewis would of over taken hekkie - to say he would of passed hekki even if it was made difficult.

Hekki could never of - to say he wasn't able to do somthing such as pass 3 cars and win

ohh, darn, you mean "would have" "could have"... What is this "of" overuse, a new forum trend?

same thing