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[antoniob]

McLaren race pace is good so when McLaren get their ride hight adjuster scheduled for China then I hope McLaren will be fighting for poles.

Okay. dont start with the wishful thinking stuff again. its nice and peaceful. lets keep it that way

Thats not wishful thinking it's merely an opinion of which he is entitled to .

You absolutely right Tex - about the opinion bit.

[Frosty]

McLaren race pace is good so when McLaren get their ride hight adjuster scheduled for China then I hope McLaren will be fighting for poles.

Okay. dont start with the wishful thinking stuff again. its nice and peaceful. lets keep it that way

Not so McLaren are currently 7 tenths off at quali pace the ride hight adjuster is giving the cars with them around half 4-5 tenths so when McLaren have theirs it should make it a lot more competitive. That and the fact McLaren can develop a car at an amazing rate as proved last season when McLaren out developed Ferrari and caught up with top teams and McLaren had caught up before Ferrari had stopped development. I think there is plenty of evidence out there that suggests that McLaren will move forward and catch up.

[antoniob]

McLaren race pace is good so when McLaren get their ride hight adjuster scheduled for China then I hope McLaren will be fighting for poles.

Okay. dont start with the wishful thinking stuff again. its nice and peaceful. lets keep it that way

Not so McLaren are currently 7 tenths off at quali pace the ride hight adjuster is giving the cars with them around half 4-5 tenths so when McLaren have theirs it should make it a lot more competitive. That and the fact McLaren can develop a car at an amazing rate as proved last season when McLaren out developed Ferrari and caught up with top teams and McLaren had caught up before Ferrari had stopped development. I think there is plenty of evidence out there that suggests that McLaren will move forward and catch up.

I get that all this makes you very happy but the ride height idea is not really legal. so where we going with it now ?

[Frosty]

McLaren race pace is good so when McLaren get their ride hight adjuster scheduled for China then I hope McLaren will be fighting for poles.

Okay. dont start with the wishful thinking stuff again. its nice and peaceful. lets keep it that way

Not so McLaren are currently 7 tenths off at quali pace the ride hight adjuster is giving the cars with them around half 4-5 tenths so when McLaren have theirs it should make it a lot more competitive. That and the fact McLaren can develop a car at an amazing rate as proved last season when McLaren out developed Ferrari and caught up with top teams and McLaren had caught up before Ferrari had stopped development. I think there is plenty of evidence out there that suggests that McLaren will move forward and catch up.

I get that all this makes you very happy but the ride height idea is not really legal. so where we going with it now ?

Actually ride hight adjusters are legal as long as the car is not moving at the time so you can change the ride hight at pit stops or when the fuel is being put in the car the system is semi automatic so it gets around the parc ferme rules and the active suspension rules.

[texasmr2]

McLaren race pace is good so when McLaren get their ride hight adjuster scheduled for China then I hope McLaren will be fighting for poles.

Okay. dont start with the wishful thinking stuff again. its nice and peaceful. lets keep it that way

Not so McLaren are currently 7 tenths off at quali pace the ride hight adjuster is giving the cars with them around half 4-5 tenths so when McLaren have theirs it should make it a lot more competitive. That and the fact McLaren can develop a car at an amazing rate as proved last season when McLaren out developed Ferrari and caught up with top teams and McLaren had caught up before Ferrari had stopped development. I think there is plenty of evidence out there that suggests that McLaren will move forward and catch up.

I get that all this makes you very happy but the ride height idea is not really legal. so where we going with it now ?

Not really legal? The FIA as far as we all know have not said it IS illegal, so where we going with it now? The jist of it all is that one teams supporters simply cannot accept another teams techno advantage over their own team and it is compounded by said team not placing/finishing were that said supporter thinks they should have. Then we all have to endure the fallout for it when some of the input has no sure footing and a crack in the ice has appeared under their feet, thanks Pink!!

[antoniob]

McLaren race pace is good so when McLaren get their ride hight adjuster scheduled for China then I hope McLaren will be fighting for poles.

Okay. dont start with the wishful thinking stuff again. its nice and peaceful. lets keep it that way

Not so McLaren are currently 7 tenths off at quali pace the ride hight adjuster is giving the cars with them around half 4-5 tenths so when McLaren have theirs it should make it a lot more competitive. That and the fact McLaren can develop a car at an amazing rate as proved last season when McLaren out developed Ferrari and caught up with top teams and McLaren had caught up before Ferrari had stopped development. I think there is plenty of evidence out there that suggests that McLaren will move forward and catch up.

I get that all this makes you very happy but the ride height idea is not really legal. so where we going with it now ?

Actually ride hight adjusters are legal as long as the car is not moving at the time so you can change the ride hight at pit stops or when the fuel is being put in the car the system is semi automatic so it gets around the parc ferme rules and the active suspension rules.

I am aware of that as well. I think Whitmarch's public announcement that he will have a similar device on the car soon may just be his way to force the FIA to have a proper look at the RB car without him physically complaining to them about it like RB did over the F-duct issue...

"McLaren boss Whitmarsh told the BBC after the session that, following a similar situation in Bahrain, he wondered why the Red Bulls were not "dragging their arses on full tanks" in the race. He said it is "evidence of ride-height control systems" being in use, "which many people wouldn't have thought were permissible".

In the wake of last year's diffuser row, and the McLaren F-duct saga in Bahrain, F1 could now be set for its next technical controversy. Whitmarsh said McLaren is now "working quite hard" on implementing a Red Bull-like ride-height system, and "hopefully by China we'll have something on the car".

[Frosty]

The FIA is pretty good at looking at the cars if they passed the scrutineers inspection then unless some teams have lied about the function of a particular device or lied about how it works then I expect it's legal.

[antoniob]

The FIA is pretty good at looking at the cars if they passed the scrutineers inspection then unless some teams have lied about the function of a particular device or lied about how it works then I expect it's legal.

Yah well. I suspect we will hear more of this in the very near future..

[EwanM]

The regulations are so open and blurry at the moment that in most cases it goes by a steward-to-steward basis and their representation of the rules.

We need a definitive answer.

[texasmr2]

The regulations are so open and blurry at the moment that in most cases it goes by a steward-to-steward basis and their representation of the rules.

We need a definitive answer.

Like that is something new??
There will always be different interpretations of the rules and regs and that is merely a fact of being human and just like the debates we have here when a rule or regualtion has been percieved as concrete yet a loophole has been found, keeps it interesting rather than boring imho . When the human factor is involved there will always be questions but then again thats what makes life and F1 so enjoyable, different views .

[EwanM]

For all that is true, for issues like ride-heights they are bound to find a way.

[antoniob]

On a topical note i cant seem to decide what for me might the highlite be of tomorrows race. Maybe Vettel winning or being pissed off if Alonso or Massa dont. or lewis getting frustrated and park his car in the wall bringing out a safety car that allows shummie to get past them all. So many possibilities.
Damn !!

[texasmr2]

The highlite for myself will be waking up when my alarm goes off, another great day !

[antoniob]

The highlite for myself will be waking up when my alarm goes off, another great day !

well Tex. I guess only a few very neardeath experiences will make me feel that way. I always find me cursing the fact that its another new day and have to get my butt in gear. I think I have to change the approach your way a little

[madbrad]

Just because the RB hit the ground during Q doesn't mean it's adjustable. Who's to say RB wasn't testing with full tanks during test season? That would allow them to run in Q on full tanks with the only car on the grid that was developed for it. Lets see the ride height at the end of the race.

I hope that after you've read your own post you realised how crazy that sounds. RB ran Q on full tanks ?? WACFJ !!!

no I didn't mean that literally. Just exaggerating to illustrate that seeing the car bump the road a couple of times doesn't mean it has adjustable ride height. I'm not saying it doesn't, but there could be an explanation. We do know MW likes to grandstand.