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[LRW]

Racing lines at a start of the race?

Oh. It was the start of the race was it? Ok, my bad. I was watching the race on x6, last night.

[CookinFlat6]

Ah thanks! Looks completely like a racing incident to me, Kevin put his nose where it doesn't belong and Kimi put his trust in Kevin to brake to avoid collision. Kimi was probably already focusing on the 2nd corner and forgot to look in his mirrors and paid the price, typical grand prix start incident.

I'd put the blame more on Kevin though since it was easier for him to avoid the collision. It's not like he was anywhere beside Kimi, so he didn't have a right to the line...yet. And I saw his interview, he seemed pretty clear about who should be blamed...so he knows he could've done better.

I dont know, Kimi was wobbling around and changed his line through the corner, he started with a deeper line then cut in clearly changing his trajectory. Mag took a conventional line and Kimi turned into him. A racing incident if Kimi did not look in his mirrors

But if he did see Mag and still changed his line then he was at fault. You can take unpredictable lines swerving in the corner and expect everyone around you to anticipate and then jump out your way or slam on the brakes. Its not as if it was a corner in Monaco

[Hammer278]

Yep which is why I think it is pretty much a racing incident. At the start you expect your competitor to be less focused on the mirrors and be prepared to take avoiding action. Kevin didn't....Kimi took a risk by being a bit complacent and as you said, wobbling around and swerving back in to take a good line through the 2nd corner and paid the price. Both are at fault IMO.

[What's Burning?]

Only one of them is a veteran world champion, I'd expect more from Kimi than from a rookie in his second GP, going out of his way to blame Mags given what you see on the video is the over the top aspect of it for me.

[LRW]

A question.

Why is it,out of 22 cars, only Richardo's flow sensor that has issues / fails? No one-else seems to have had any issues?

Is it ......

a) RedBull replaced the sensor from Australia with a new one, and something on Ricciardo's car is making it go funny.
b) RedBull didnt replace it. Which is stupid
c) Other teams arent being so vocal about theirs failing (which I find hard to believe)
d) RedBull are sabotaging Ricciardo's car to protect Vettel.

[Jabberwocky]

On an interview I watched with Horner (think it was on the F1 show) he said there has been 6 failures in up to that point 4 in Australia and 2 in Malaysia up and down the pitlane. He also said that a certain team had bought over a dozen fuel flow sensors at 9k each and got them calibrated at 6k each, they tested them and only run the ones that error-ed in there favor. He then said that RBR had 6 for the whole season.

TBH, I think the +/- 2% tolerance is abysmal. in theory once car has 98L of fuel and another 102L of fuel to run a race with. that could make a huge difference.

[LRW]

Then why are only RedBull making issues out of it, if so many teams have had failures....?

[Jabberwocky]

All the other teams have turned complied with the FIA when they say they are using too much fuel.

I suppose if you where RBR and you knew you would be finishing out of the points or you could finish in the point and then fight the legality of it later, what would you do?

[LRW]

......what would you do?

Realise that no team is bigger than F1, do what I was told and STFU..?

[racechick]

Maybe red Bull are making a fuss because they're more marginal on fuel usage than the other teams? At the weekend Vettel's use was one of the highest, Lewis' one if the lowest.

[What's Burning?]

Bahrain is one of the monster fuel usage GPs. Plus it's likely not going to rain.

[CookinFlat6]

Maybe red Bull are making a fuss because they're more marginal on fuel usage than the other teams? At the weekend Vettel's use was one of the highest, Lewis' one if the lowest.

It could just mean Lewis is very cerebral and clever with the new regs, adapting his driving style with intelligence, whereas Seb is a Gung-ho, instinctive driver who chased down Nico relentlessly and dumbly instead of use his brains

[1Lemon]

Bahrain is one of the monster fuel usage GPs. Plus it's likely not going to rain.

Maybe Williams can qualify well then, considering they easily have one of the fastest cars in the dry....

Also maybe Bottas won't get a grid penalty for the 3rd race in a row.

[bud]

I think I'm fairly impartial on this one (as I couldn't give two shits either way). So looking at the two on-board footages below of Hamilton (first on-boards I found on Google), and the racing line he takes into turn one:

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Then if you compare that to Kimmi's line, its very similar.

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So in conclusion, Kimmi was on the normal racing line, and Mag tried to dive up the inside. Mags fault.

Now you can tell me why I'm wrong.

There is more than one line to a corner, faster entry slower exit or vice versa make the line a driver chooses vary. This corner in particular lends it's self to the up and under, Mags was probably trying to position himself on the outside of Kimi for the 2nd part of the turn to straight line and get the power down earlier.

Regardless of whose at fault, I feel it was just a racing incident and neither driver should have been penalized.
F1 wants overtaking but what's the point if a mistake is made by the driver? Does f1 only want DRS yawn fest overtaking?

[racechick]

I agree. Racing incident no action should have been taken.