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[CookinFlat6]

Any driver on the grid given the right car and support and competitors handicapped in any way could do what Massa does. He can't stop spinning in the wet or making sporadic mistakes under pressure, and has the mindset of a whinger, quick to find reasons and excuses

He benefited from Kimis estrangement in 2008 and from the best car to challenge for the WDC, apart from that he is completely average. Yes he has out qualified Alonso a few times, but anyone can out qualify Alonso given a bit of luck because Alonso is a driver that will happily compromise quali or bragging rights for the long game. Lewis the rookie got 5 or7 poles to Alonso's 2, yet Alonso got equal points at year end

MAssa is not consistent, makes rooms unmistaken, goes missing a lot, can't drive in the wet and is a whinger. And nowhe think she is a number one driver at a team on the cusp of becoming effective.

The last thing they need is a journeyman out to fix his ego before retiring. Let's hope pat symonds is aware of the massive chance Williams have to leapfrog and cracks the whip, maybe at Claire as well while he is at it

(And I am talking as Williams shareholder who averaged and bought more when the stock collapsed)

[sagi58]

If given half a chance, Massa would gladly have stayed at Ferrari, until he retired.
He knew what the deal was there and kept signing on the dotted line.

How can anyone "pity" him for being the support driver, considering his own record?

Also, Ferrari knew what they had in Massa and were beyond loyal to him, in the hopes
that his "luck" would change. It didn't at Ferrari.

And, it would appear it hasn't at Williams.

[What's Burning?]

It could just be the Ferrari number two spot that's cursed drivers, at this point last year Massa had 22 points to Kimi's 6 today.

[sagi58]

True; but, then, again, those were only two of the five races where Massa scored in the double digits.
I'm hoping Kimi does better than that, as the season progresses!

[racechick]

Suzie Wolff finished the second day of testing in 5th place making only one mistake all day, a spin at turn 10 ( I think that's the turn that Lewis said was the most difficult) She finished higher than Vettel.

well done Suzie.

[LiamCatterson]

Even though testing times don't mean a whole lot in-season (Chilton ahead of Lewis? WHAT), Seems like an impressive showing from Suzie. Isn't she racing in Practice 1 at Silverstone? Cos I can't wait

[racechick]

Yes I think she is.

[LiamCatterson]

Yeah shes practicing at Silverstone and I think she's doing so at Germany (I don't think I'll be able to watch that race. Invited to someones Christening...Really? Why not a week earlier?

[racechick]

I'm actually going to the German GP,so I'll get to see Suzie twice

[sagi58]

Looking back at some predictions:

, Peter Windsor wrote:">Williams - Massa vs Bottas

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Published on Mar 11, 2014

Peter Windsor and Rob Wilson take a look at the partnership of Felipe Massa and Valtteri Bottas who will be driving the impressively performing Williams.

[sagi58]

 wrote:">Formula 1 - Mercedes director Wolff finally sells Williams shares

Mercedes motorsport boss Toto Wolff has sold a stake of his shares in the Williams Formula 1 team to American healthcare entrepreneur Brad Hollinger.

Wolff has been looking to sell off his 15 per cent stake in the Williams team ever since he was recruited to head up Mercedes' efforts.

He has now agreed a deal with Hollinger, whose Vibra Healthcare company owns and runs 90 hospitals in the United States, to take a five per cent shareholding in the Williams team - with an option to purchase the remaining 10 per cent stake he has later this year.

Wolff said: "It was always the plan to reduce the shareholding in Williams towards a level that is clearly a financial investment.

"This was important to Daimler for conflict of interest reasons and for compliance reasons.

"But it was quite a task to find somebody who was good for the company, who was good for the family, and who had the spirit I had when I joined Williams as a financial investor."

Hollinger, who owns several historic F1 cars including a 1991 Benetton and 1997 Williams, reckoned that it made sense to get involved in the sport because he sees a positive future for grand prix racing.

"I think F1 is right on the cusp of another explosive growth path," said Hollinger. "The whole social media element is an opportunity that F1 can really tap in to and accelerate even more.

"I think it will create an opening for the US market and I would like to be involved in that process as well."

The new structure means that Frank Williams owns 52 per cent of the team, Wolff holds 10 per cent, Patrick Head has nine per cent, Hollinger has five per cent and the remainder is held by stockmarket investors.

[Jabberwocky]

Think he is hoping for a growth in the American market with Hass and maybe a second Us GP

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[Cyril Sneer Racing]

Fast this morning, huh.

[sagi58]

Very fast!! What a great result for the team, to lock out the front row!!

This might be the race where this prediction becomes a result:

Mark my words, Bottas will win a race in 2013/2014- Me, March 13th 2013

[1Lemon]

Very fast!! What a great result for the team, to lock out the front row!!

This might be the race where this prediction becomes a result:

Mark my words, Bottas will win a race in 2013/2014- Me, March 13th 2013

I don't think my heart can make it all the way until tomorrow's race!