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Yes I agree lose the lap time but not all three Q session times. Penalties for brake testing aren't even that severe and are far worse if you ask me.
However, I think relegating him to P10 would have sufficed over P24. He was fast enough to get to Q3 without breaking the rules, so I think hamilton should have at least been given the last spot of the Q3 runnersI agree with you ferrarifan, and your avatar
Yes I agree lose the lap time but not all three Q session times. Penalties for brake testing aren't even that severe and are far worse if you ask me.
If you have penalties, then they need to act as deterrents.
Think of it this way - if you only give penalties that put people back where they were had they not broken the rules, then you create an inherent advantage for those who cheat. As some times they will cheat and get away with it, and they will get an advantage. And other times they will cheat and not get away with it. In the latter class they don't get an advantage or a disadvantage, they're just where they would have been. If you have a situation where not everyone who cheats gets caught every time, then you have an average advantage to cheating, and everyone would do it.
You must have penalties that are strong enough to act as a deterrent.
In this case I think that dropping five or ten places on the grid would have been suitable. But just disallowing the last lap time is too lenient and won't work as a deterrent.
I pretty much agree with this.If McLaren would've been let off lightly others might have taken the risk and tried it themselves.Harsh for this race,but should be lesson learnt.They were after all the first team to break the rule.
It's just a strong statement that basicly cheating and trying to cover up for it will not be tolerated in any way shape or form.
It's just a shame Lewis has to be the brunt of the penalty.As for McLaren they really do need a big shake up in staff.It's way beyond a joke now.
So far this year McLaren havent managed to replicate their quali performance in the race, and Lewis has often gone backwards in races. I expect him to struggle in the midfield and his tyres wont last, and all that is if he doesnt have an accident. It will be an opportunity missed am afraid.
Before all this stripping him of pole, i was concerned that drivers werent setting times in Q3 to save tyres. This kind of makes pole a mockery, especially when we end up with drivers like Maldonado sitting on it!
hang on a sec cheating? this is hardly cheating a mistake was made which caused this to happen, it was not a deliberate act by the team!
hang on a sec cheating? this is hardly cheating a mistake was made which caused this to happen, it was not a deliberate act by the team!
May 12 (Reuters) - Economic crisis has infected the prestigious Spanish Formula One Grand Prix, with the track's director saying it faced a disaster financially as cash-strapped locals stay away.
Crowds at the Circuit de Catalunya just north of Barcelona are down to barely half the peak of 140,000 in 2007.
Those were happier economic times before Europe felt the full force of the global financial crisis and after Spanish driver Fernando Alonso had won successive world championships.
Salvador Servia, director general of the circuit, said ticket sales had matched last year's figure of 78,000 but that would still leave local organisers nursing a sizeable loss.
"It's not enough. Here for things to go well, we have to have 120,000 people and if it's under 100,000 it's a disaster," Servia told Reuters in an interview after final qualifying on Saturday.
"Our problem is that the circuit is 80 percent owned by the Catalan government," he added. "The government does not have money and does not know when it will have it."
Spain is a great sporting power, home to the world soccer champions and having produced tennis great Rafa Nadal.
But with the country mired in recession and almost one in four people unemployed, Spanish sport is feeling the chill wind of economic crisis.
Many of the country's soccer clubs are deep in debt and it looks like its days of staging two Formula One races a season are over.
hang on a sec cheating? this is hardly cheating a mistake was made which caused this to happen, it was not a deliberate act by the team!
The initial lack of fuel was a simple mistake, which wasn't deliberate. A tap was turned the wrong way and then McLaren had cut the timing so close that there wasn't time to get enough fuel into the car.
However, team management knew of this problem as LH went out on the warm-up lap. As the technician involved told them, and they have very accurate sensors saying how much fuel is in the car. McLaren then took a deliberate decision to allow LH to go for the pole lap rather than aborting the lap. After that Martin Whitmarsh claimed that the car had enough fuel to get back to the pits, when it didn't.
It's not the problem of the initial lack of fuel that is the problem, that's a plain, ordinary, mistake. It's what McLaren did after that which is the much more serious problem. And in my opinion it's McLaren's actions after the problem with low fuel was known that led the stewards to be so draconian.
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