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[1Lemon]

Hulk and Bottas in the 2015 Williams?

Yes please.

[What's Burning?]

I feel bad for Grosjean.

[CookinFlat6]

If Kimi keeps bumping into rookie drivers and finishing out of the points, I wonder if Montezemolo might just pay him off again, or do a swap with Williams for Massa
So far he has made more mistakes and had issues than at Lotus where he was Mr consistent finisher

[LewEngBridewell]

If Kimi keeps bumping into rookie drivers and finishing out of the points, I wonder if Montezemolo might just pay him off again, or do a swap with Williams for Massa
So far he has made more mistakes and had issues than at Lotus where he was Mr consistent finisher

Maybe he's re-entered one of his "I simply couldn't give a s**t" modes again...

[Ferrari man 009]

If Kimi keeps bumping into rookie drivers and finishing out of the points, I wonder if Montezemolo might just pay him off again, or do a swap with Williams for Massa
So far he has made more mistakes and had issues than at Lotus where he was Mr consistent finisher

In that case should Alonso also be shipped out? Since he also collided with a rookie this weekend?

With the Kimi incident, im not sure how everyone is putting the blame onto him. Especially when Magnussen admitted he "misjudged" the situation and it was his fault!

Given Kimi's pace for the weekend in the dry and the massive gap behind - without that contact it is likely he would have finished either 5th or 6th.

[bud]

Having looked at Mags onboard you can see Kimi goes in a bit hot into the first part of the corner while Mags takes the normal line. Kimi then comes back onto the line which causes the contact.

End of the day i saw it as a racing incident, Stewards should have let it be! Both drivers were punished from it, albeit Kimi more so.

[spankyham]

With the Kimi incident, im not sure how everyone is putting the blame onto him. Especially when Magnussen admitted he "misjudged" the situation and it was his fault!

Blind Freddie, KMag and the rest of the universe know it was KMag's fault.

[1Lemon]

With the Kimi incident, im not sure how everyone is putting the blame onto him. Especially when Magnussen admitted he "misjudged" the situation and it was his fault!

Blind Freddie, KMag and the rest of the universe know it was KMag's fault.

It was a racing incident! If it was anyone's fault it was Kimi for moving into KMag!

[What's Burning?]

With the Kimi incident, im not sure how everyone is putting the blame onto him. Especially when Magnussen admitted he "misjudged" the situation and it was his fault!

Blind Freddie, KMag and the rest of the universe know it was KMag's fault.

You're wrong on this one and that's surprising coming from one of the staunchest defenders of pure racing. It was at best an incident, at worst it was Kevin's car that was half over the line so there wasn't much room there...

[Hammer278]

Gaddamn...one of the crappy parts of attending a race. Anyone got a link of this incident, can't find it anywhere on youtube.

[What's Burning?]

Yeap Kimi, that's what mirrors are for. Kevin ruined your race.

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Gaddamn...one of the crappy parts of attending a race. Anyone got a link of this incident, can't find it anywhere on youtube.

You suck at YouTube searches.

[Hammer278]

Ah thanks! Looks completely like a racing incident to me, Kevin put his nose where it doesn't belong and Kimi put his trust in Kevin to brake to avoid collision. Kimi was probably already focusing on the 2nd corner and forgot to look in his mirrors and paid the price, typical grand prix start incident.

I'd put the blame more on Kevin though since it was easier for him to avoid the collision. It's not like he was anywhere beside Kimi, so he didn't have a right to the line...yet. And I saw his interview, he seemed pretty clear about who should be blamed...so he knows he could've done better.

[CookinFlat6]

If Kimi keeps bumping into rookie drivers and finishing out of the points, I wonder if Montezemolo might just pay him off again, or do a swap with Williams for Massa
So far he has made more mistakes and had issues than at Lotus where he was Mr consistent finisher

In that case should Alonso also be shipped out? Since he also collided with a rookie this weekend?

With the Kimi incident, im not sure how everyone is putting the blame onto him. Especially when Magnussen admitted he "misjudged" the situation and it was his fault!

Given Kimi's pace for the weekend in the dry and the massive gap behind - without that contact it is likely he would have finished either 5th or 6th.

Thats missing the point, Alonso continues to get the most points out of the 3rd or 4th best car. Kimi was brought back to do the same thereby giving Ferrari a strong base even without the best car. He was brought in on the back of his consistent points harvesting at Lotus amid claims it was a 'mature Kimi'

So far his contribution has not been that different to Massa and definitely not at Alonso level. Unless Kimi stops 'having bad luck' with braking and turning into rookies etc how long before he loses interest and just collects his wage?

Mag put his hand up and admitted fault because he is a rookie and knows what happened to Lewis and other rookies who dont take the 'yes sir, 3 bags full sir' approach to incidents with established drivers

[LRW]

I think I'm fairly impartial on this one (as I couldn't give two shits either way). So looking at the two on-board footages below of Hamilton (first on-boards I found on Google), and the racing line he takes into turn one:

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Then if you compare that to Kimmi's line, its very similar.

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So in conclusion, Kimmi was on the normal racing line, and Mag tried to dive up the inside. Mags fault.

Now you can tell me why I'm wrong.

[What's Burning?]

Racing lines at a start of the race?